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#3214963 - 10/14/19 07:54 PM Mentor hunter situation?
17Loony Offline
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Registered: 04/05/15
Posts: 75
Loc: NE South Dakota
May a youth use a silencer to hunt with the owners supervision? If not what do we need to do to afford them this hearing protection measure?

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#3214965 - 10/14/19 08:02 PM Re: Mentor hunter situation? [Re: 17Loony]
skinney Offline
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Registered: 12/21/09
Posts: 4107
Loc: South Dakota
As long as the owner of the suppressor is with the shooter.
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#3214970 - 10/14/19 08:32 PM Re: Mentor hunter situation? [Re: 17Loony]
17Loony Offline
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Registered: 04/05/15
Posts: 75
Loc: NE South Dakota
Thank you Skinney! Any Idea where I could find reference to this in case we would be confronted at the range for example?

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#3214995 - 10/15/19 01:25 AM Re: Mentor hunter situation? [Re: 17Loony]
SnowmanMo Offline
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Registered: 09/23/08
Posts: 4381
Loc: Phoenix, Az
Originally Posted By: 17Loony
Thank you Skinney! Any Idea where I could find reference to this in case we would be confronted at the range for example?


Sadly, I don't think it's going to be that easy. The laws tell you more about what you CAN'T do. The laws would be thousands of pages long trying to cover all of the "can do's."

If you read the Federal laws, and I suggest you do, no one under the age of 21 may buy from a dealer and no one under 18 may buy from an individual or possess under a trust. The laws also define a "transfer." Shooting at a range and letting someone else shoot while you're right there isn't a transfer. But "loaning" it would be. So don't let it leave your control.

State laws can vary so you should read up on those.

But if you're looking for a law that says you can, you're probably not going to find one.
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#3215010 - 10/15/19 09:21 AM Re: Mentor hunter situation? [Re: SnowmanMo]
skinney Offline
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Registered: 12/21/09
Posts: 4107
Loc: South Dakota
Originally Posted By: 17Loony
Thank you Skinney! Any Idea where I could find reference to this in case we would be confronted at the range for example?


Yes, present your tax stamp.

Originally Posted By: SnowmanMo


Sadly, I don't think it's going to be that easy. The laws tell you more about what you CAN'T do. The laws would be thousands of pages long trying to cover all of the "can do's."

If you read the Federal laws, and I suggest you do, no one under the age of 21 may buy from a dealer and no one under 18 may buy from an individual or possess under a trust. The laws also define a "transfer." Shooting at a range and letting someone else shoot while you're right there isn't a transfer. But "loaning" it would be. So don't let it leave your control.

State laws can vary so you should read up on those.

But if you're looking for a law that says you can, you're probably not going to find one.


There would be much more to be concerned about than just mentoring your kid with your suppressor then. Such as, how can the state even allow a mentor tag, that will allow a 10 year old (8 years under the legal age to own) to be in possession of a Firearm that is not registered to them, and still be allowed to harvest a big game animal with it. Same thing at the range, if your concerned about a RO confronting you about your legally obtained suppressor, he'll probably be complaining about you letting your kid shoot a firearm (rifle/handgun) that isn't his as well.

If the firearm whether it be a Rifle, Handgun or Suppressor is legally registered to you, bring the proper documents, and always be present with the shooter. If it makes you feel more comfortable I have multiple videos out hunting, shooting with my kids, all who aren't legally of age to "own" a suppressor or Rifle, But I am mentoring them, allowing them to shoot, and hunt with my legal possessions.
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Learn to discipline yourself, so someone else doesn't have to.

They'll hear ya three times, see ya twice, but only smell ya once.

Play the Rabbit, and they will come.


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#3215053 - 10/15/19 03:58 PM Re: Mentor hunter situation? [Re: skinney]
spotstalkshoot Offline
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Registered: 12/22/13
Posts: 2701
Loc: so.mn
There never would be a reason to present your tax stamp to anyone but law enforcement. If the club has a rule against NFA items it is a club rule, and you will either follow club rules or leave. No club rule, not breaking any local or federal laws continue with your safe legal activity. And go to club meetings your vote/voice matters.

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#3215072 - 10/15/19 08:24 PM Re: Mentor hunter situation? [Re: 17Loony]
6724 Offline
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Registered: 01/19/11
Posts: 3072
Loc: colorado
As I understand it, the only one you are required to show a tax stamp to is BATFE agent.

I let people use my stuff all the time, as long as I am with them. If I am not there, it is locked up.

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#3215077 - 10/15/19 08:56 PM Re: Mentor hunter situation? [Re: 17Loony]
17Loony Offline
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Registered: 04/05/15
Posts: 75
Loc: NE South Dakota
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction & all the great advice guys!

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#3215116 - 10/16/19 01:50 AM Re: Mentor hunter situation? [Re: 17Loony]
SnowmanMo Offline
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Registered: 09/23/08
Posts: 4381
Loc: Phoenix, Az
This is a great community of like minded individuals who share a love for the sport.
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#3215954 - 10/23/19 03:38 PM Re: Mentor hunter situation? [Re: 6724]
Wyoming Winchester Offline
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Registered: 07/25/13
Posts: 281
Loc: WY
Originally Posted By: 6724
As I understand it, the only one you are required to show a tax stamp to is BATFE agent.

I let people use my stuff all the time, as long as I am with them. If I am not there, it is locked up.



THIS ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ IS IT.

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#3225179 - 12/29/19 02:46 PM Re: Mentor hunter situation? [Re: 17Loony]
zr600 Offline
Die Hard Member II

Registered: 02/21/14
Posts: 1454
Loc: North dakota
I would go with what skinny said. I have never been checked even when I was checked for licenses by game warden he never said a word or asked for anything about the can. Most of the time they are more curious and almost want to shoot it to hear how quit it is. I have been at the range when a sheriff pulls through too and they came and talked to us, this was when I first got my can and I was kind of nervous thinking he was going to ask, he told me he has 5 cans at home and could careless about the paper work lol.

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