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#3195952 - 03/03/19 04:21 PM Re: Is the 17 WSM here to stay? [Re: WeaselCircus]
IdahoRoger Online
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Registered: 03/04/18
Posts: 57
Loc: Idaho
Originally Posted By: WeaselCircus
Sure hope it stays around. Didn't like the rifle offerings out there so I bought a Contender rifle barrel from MGM instead. I love my 17Hornet, but it is nice to shoot a rimfire that has nearly the same punch as the hornet while not having to worry about saving brass. Especially when shooting high volume at sage rats. I use to shoot the HMR quite a bit, but since getting the Hornets and WSM I never touch the HMR any more.


I ordered a .17 WSM barrel from MGM for my Encore, this caliber must be pretty popular because there are none in stock.

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#3195957 - 03/03/19 04:35 PM Re: Is the 17 WSM here to stay? [Re: desertcj]
one_timer Offline
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Registered: 07/05/11
Posts: 93
Loc: SE PA
I hope so; it's the cat's meow for 'chucks in my Special Regulations area where centerfire is forbidden. My Savage Bmag has returned many 'chucks to their maker.


Edited by one_timer (03/09/19 08:02 PM)

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#3195958 - 03/03/19 04:41 PM Re: Is the 17 WSM here to stay? [Re: one_timer]
IdahoRoger Online
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Registered: 03/04/18
Posts: 57
Loc: Idaho
If I had the money I would buy the Volquarstin, that rifle just seems like the ticket to me.

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#3195981 - 03/03/19 06:05 PM Re: Is the 17 WSM here to stay? [Re: psdan000]
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Registered: 04/03/04
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Loc: MO
Originally Posted By: psdan000
I find it hard to believe the options for this cartridge are so limited. I bought a bmag when they first came out, was super excited about the cartridge. It wouldn't hold a 10" group at 100 yards. Savage replaced the rifle and I sold the replacement (was too disappointed in the first one), I would jump on one again if CZ made one. I've heard too many mixed things about the rugers and I can't make myself buy another bmag. As stated before I'd love it if CZ came out with one. Would be sweet to see Tikka make one too.


My brother bought a bmag and he got rid of it quick. I would get a CZ in a heartbeat if available.
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#3195984 - 03/03/19 06:18 PM Re: Is the 17 WSM here to stay? [Re: desertcj]
IdahoRoger Online
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With all of the responses on this .17 WSM post, I don't think this round is going away!!!!

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#3196294 - 03/05/19 09:49 AM Re: Is the 17 WSM here to stay? [Re: IdahoRoger]
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Registered: 12/30/04
Posts: 2463
Loc: NW, Wi
I remember back a few years after the WSM line came out, and all of the 300 WM fans predicted the WSM line would fade into obscurity. OK, so maybe the 7mm WSM and 325 WSM are holding on by a thread, but the 300 WSM, and the 270 WSM, are here to stay.

I predict the 17 WSM is also here to stay...unless someone comes out with a better faster rimfire cartridge. The issue with the 17 WSM is in order to get a decent shooting rifle, one has to spend more that the typical rimfire rifle cost to get a decent shooting rifle. If someone sold something like the ubiquitous Ruger 10/22 in 17 WSM, and it shot minute of soda can, that would cement the future of the cartridge. Even a cheaper Savage BMag needs upgrades to get it to minute of soda can, in most cases. As an example, I won my Bmag, HB SS 17 WSM rifle at a DU Banquet. But to get it to shoot decent groups, I purchased a Boyds gray laminate thumbhole stock, and a picatinney rail scope mount, to help stiffen the action, and a few other tweaks. Now I can shoot marauding house sparrows, off my bluebird houses, at 100 yards, but if a factory gun did that, out of the box for $300-$400, there would be no speculation of the cartridge's future. But with that said, I have a life time of 17 WSM ammo hoarded away, just in case my crystal ball is lying to me. lol

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#3196332 - 03/05/19 12:33 PM Re: Is the 17 WSM here to stay? [Re: Squeeze]
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Originally Posted By: Squeeze
The issue with the 17 WSM is in order to get a decent shooting rifle, one has to spend more that the typical rimfire rifle cost to get a decent shooting rifle. If someone sold something like the ubiquitous Ruger 10/22 in 17 WSM, and it shot minute of soda can, that would cement the future of the cartridge.


We have a BMAG, which I hate. I love the .17 WSM though, so I shoot the rifle. But you're absolutely right, if one of the bigs would make a decent shooting reasonably priced rifle I think they'd sell the heck out of them. If Ruger chambered the American for .17 WSM today, I'd go buy at least one tomorrow.
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#3196469 - 03/06/19 01:02 AM Re: Is the 17 WSM here to stay? [Re: DesertRam]
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Registered: 05/13/08
Posts: 890
Loc: Iowa
Originally Posted By: DesertRam
If Ruger chambered the American for .17 WSM today, I'd go buy at least one tomorrow.


I've already said it in this thread, but I agree. For the life of me I don't understand why they don't do it. They already have a good magazine design which is half of the battle. Maybe they are worried that a RAR wsm would cannibalize their 77/17 sales? I doubt that because 90% of the people that aren't buying 77/17's are just buying Bmags, it's a different market. Just like how they make both a Ranch and a Gunsight Scout in .450 Bushmaster, one is twice the price of the other because they are marketed towards different buyers.
A Ruger American in .17wsm that was accurate would obsolete the Bmag overnight. I refuse to buy a Bmag, and I refuse to buy a 77/17 and then pay to have it threaded only to find out that a RAR in .17wsm is being released 4 months later.

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#3289248 - 12/29/21 02:32 PM Re: Is the 17 WSM here to stay? [Re: desertcj]
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Registered: 12/29/21
Posts: 3
Loc: North Dakota
It's been awhile since anyone has commented on the 17 wsm. Currently, I am on my 4th. Started with a B-mag, then a Franklin AR-17, next a Ruger and now a Volquartsen. They all shot about the same, and it never made much difference which ammo I used. Prior to the WSM, I went thru 4, 17 HMRs. I shoot lots of prairie dogs and using a cartridge that I don't have to reload was a bonus. The downfall of the 17 HMR was the lack of range and knock down power. Longest shots were approximately 150 yards on calm days. The only positive aspect of the round was that it was relatively quiet. However, wind drift was a major factor with the 17 gr pellet. Now the 17 WSM has nearly double the range, and much more energy. I have taken prairie dogs at 300 yards, with little wind drift. Let me also mention that each of the guns mentioned had a 6.5x20 Leupold scope mounted on it, and I use a range finder. Also, shoot off a bench with sandbags. My biggest concern at this time is that people are going to give up on the little varmint round. This is and will always be a great varmint round. I've shot several coyotes with the 17 WSM, but I'm aware that bullet placement is critical. I hope more people get behind this excellent caliber.

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#3289377 - 12/30/21 02:19 PM Re: Is the 17 WSM here to stay? [Re: desertcj]
Al Hansen Offline
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Registered: 11/27/17
Posts: 129
Loc: Utah
I love my little 17 HMR Savage 93R17 GV. It was stacking P-dogs on the mounds last summer. Once the 50-125 range was cleaned out out came the 20 Practicals and we went way out with those. The 17 HMR definitely has a nitch and the 17 WSM would extend that nitch out a little further. I hope both the 17 HMR and the 17 WSM sticks around for a long time. Great "fun" rounds and perfect for those young ones that want to tag along with dad or G-pa. I think the Grandson might have to beg to get it away from G-pa.
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#3289807 - 01/03/22 06:56 PM Re: Is the 17 WSM here to stay? [Re: Al Hansen]
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Registered: 03/14/05
Posts: 368
Loc: Idaho
Nope. The 17WSM is on it's way out...

Announced today: https://www.varminter.com/savage-arms-adds-17-wsm-to-its-a-series-rifle-line/
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#3289809 - 01/03/22 07:06 PM Re: Is the 17 WSM here to stay? [Re: desertcj]
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Registered: 01/09/05
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I gotta get me one if those.

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#3289812 - 01/03/22 07:36 PM Re: Is the 17 WSM here to stay? [Re: LASER4444]
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Edited by pyscodog (01/03/22 07:40 PM)
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#3289813 - 01/03/22 07:39 PM Re: Is the 17 WSM here to stay? [Re: GLShooter]
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Originally Posted By: GLShooter
I gotta get me one if those.

Greg


Ditto
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#3289857 - 01/04/22 08:29 AM Re: Is the 17 WSM here to stay? [Re: desertcj]
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Registered: 08/19/13
Posts: 391
Loc: OK
I will take the non-thumbhole version please and make that ASAP. If it is accurate like my other A17 it will be a blast to have. It would make a great cat gun, coon calling gun, and plinker. I hope it's a legit thing. I wish they would have done the American rimfire instead, but I will take it.

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