#3177400 - 12/12/18 07:40 AM
Re: Is the 17 WSM here to stay?
[Re: Scalloper]
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Registered: 04/06/11
Posts: 226
Loc: Illinois unfortunately
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I'd like to see Henry make a lever 17 wsm. I even contacted Henry when the 17 wsm first came out and they stated at the time that they had no plans to build them. Hopefully that may change soon.
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#3177469 - 12/12/18 12:56 PM
Re: Is the 17 WSM here to stay?
[Re: desertcj]
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Registered: 01/18/18
Posts: 22
Loc: Montana
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I had a Bmag and wasnt overly impressed by accuracy, extra noise, or ammo costs. I shoot exclusively HMR now for rimfires.
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#3177487 - 12/12/18 01:50 PM
Re: Is the 17 WSM here to stay?
[Re: Remington92]
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Registered: 03/08/10
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Loc: Walker, IA
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I think the staying power of the 17wsm is on the "iffy" side, especially when so many gun manufacturers are staying away from production. It got a black eye right away with the problems of the first B-mags. I like the Savage CF's, but just handling a B-mag turned me off....may have been made by Mattel as far as I was concerned.
Of the 17RF's, the one most likely to stay is the hmr. The wsm is a bit much for small game and a bit light for coyotes, even though it's possible with either. Think I'll stay happy with my HMR.
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#3177489 - 12/12/18 01:54 PM
Re: Is the 17 WSM here to stay?
[Re: Remington92]
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I had a Bmag and wasnt overly impressed by accuracy, extra noise, or ammo costs. I shoot exclusively HMR now for rimfires. If my .17 HMR is not quite enough I grab my .17 Hornet. If that is not quite adequte yet I can put my .17 Remington into play. If that's not enough for what I shoot at it's a very rare day.
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#3177496 - 12/12/18 02:21 PM
Re: Is the 17 WSM here to stay?
[Re: desertcj]
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Registered: 02/28/13
Posts: 1097
Loc: Western Massachusetts
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The real space for the 17WSM is in states with rimfire only regulations, IMO. H*ll I would have gotten one if my state lifted the 22LR restriction and made it "any rimfire". (night hunting regs)
The fact it's been out this long and their's still only two real options (three really, I know. But whos going to spend over a grand on the AR version) to me says it doesn't have much interest. I'm actually surprised more companies haven't made "affordable" bolt guns in this caliber, it has that cool factor going for it. The Ruger is a nice firearm but it's too costly for the average guy buying a rimfire. Everyone interested in the caliber has heard enough bad things about the Savage.
I'd say it's a coin flip if it survives.
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#3177510 - 12/12/18 03:12 PM
Re: Is the 17 WSM here to stay?
[Re: desertcj]
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Die Hard Member III
Registered: 12/07/11
Posts: 2707
Loc: Pacific NW
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Part of the problem with the popularity of the 17 WSM is a lot of average Joe recreational rimfire shooters still don't even know they exist or what exactly they are. You'd be surprised at how many people confuse the 17 WSM with A17 ammo and often don't realize they aren't one and the same.
Shortly after I bought my HB SS Bmag I took it sage rat hunting down in Oregon. When asked what I was shooting and I said a 17 WSM, two of the guys shooting on the same platform, including our guide, said oh isn't that the new 17 HMR ammo that shoots 100fps faster. When I explained the 17 WSM was a whole different cartridge and compared my ammo to their 17 HMR ammo they replied with, oh I just thought they were the same thing. I've been to my local Sportsman's Warehouse numerous times and heard the counter guy explaining the difference between the 17 WSM and 17 HMR because the customer didn't know what a 17 WSM was.
As has already been mentioned, the early skinny barrel Bmags certainly didn't establish a great deal of confidence in the 17WSM. Also, the Bmag is kind of an odd duck, mostly because of how the bolt functions and it turns a lot of people off. The Ruger has always been a very good looking rifle but their accuracy was just ehh ok at best and typically didn't match their price tag. But, both the Bmag, particularly the HB SS models, and the Ruger 17 WSM's have gotten much better and tend to shoot pretty well, or at least much better than the early models did.
I've dressed up my HB SS Bmag a little by putting it in Boyd's Pro Varmint stock, swapped out that fugly bolt handle with a glades bolt handle which was ridiculously large so I had it shortened and turned down smaller in diameter. It looks pretty respectable now and shoots really well. I have a couple 17 HMR's and can't even remember the last time I shot one of those because every time I reach for a rimfire, it's my 17 WSM.
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#3177632 - 12/12/18 08:26 PM
Re: Is the 17 WSM here to stay?
[Re: desertcj]
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Registered: 02/23/06
Posts: 422
Loc: near Albany, NY
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I believe it is here to stay.
I have an HB SS Bmag. It ain't pretty. It has a clunky bolt action. HOWEVER, it was inexpensive, is a pleasure to carry because it's so light, sufficiently accurate and has enough energy to 150 yards to tack down fox/coyote/bobcats. For a RIMFIRE, I don't know how that combination will be beat anytime soon.
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#3178274 - 12/15/18 11:38 AM
Re: Is the 17 WSM here to stay?
[Re: desertcj]
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Registered: 07/06/07
Posts: 2826
Loc: Wisconsin
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I'm guessing if it is here to stay you'll see more ammo offerings and chambered in more rifle manufacturers at the upcoming shot show. That should be an indication whether it's doing good or not. Want one myself but will wait to see what the future holds for it first. Leaning towards the hornet. At least I reload it if the caliber goes away and I can custom Taylor a load till I find one that shoots vs having limited ammo choices and trying to find a rimfire rife that likes the preloaded rimfire ammo. Either way I'm sure I'll own a 17 WSM soon.
Edited by Dultimatpredator (12/15/18 11:41 AM)
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#3178316 - 12/15/18 03:35 PM
Re: Is the 17 WSM here to stay?
[Re: GLShooter]
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Registered: 04/03/04
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Loc: MO
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A nice little CZ would peek my interest.
Greg If CZ came out with one I would buy it.
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#3178348 - 12/15/18 07:34 PM
Re: Is the 17 WSM here to stay?
[Re: Coyotejunki]
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Registered: 01/29/17
Posts: 72
Loc: Va
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[quote=GLShooter]A nice little CZ would peek my interest.
Greg Love my CZ's
Edited by 9322mag (12/15/18 07:36 PM)
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#3178356 - 12/15/18 08:27 PM
Re: Is the 17 WSM here to stay?
[Re: desertcj]
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Die Hard Member III
Registered: 07/06/07
Posts: 2826
Loc: Wisconsin
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I'm waiting to see if CZ or ruger American will be chambered in it as well.
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#3178391 - 12/16/18 12:25 AM
Re: Is the 17 WSM here to stay?
[Re: desertcj]
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Registered: 01/27/11
Posts: 280
Loc: Idaho
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Sure hope it stays around. Didn't like the rifle offerings out there so I bought a Contender rifle barrel from MGM instead. I love my 17Hornet, but it is nice to shoot a rimfire that has nearly the same punch as the hornet while not having to worry about saving brass. Especially when shooting high volume at sage rats. I use to shoot the HMR quite a bit, but since getting the Hornets and WSM I never touch the HMR any more.
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#3178772 - 12/17/18 07:26 PM
Re: Is the 17 WSM here to stay?
[Re: desertcj]
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Registered: 11/10/08
Posts: 2918
Loc: Las Vegas Nevada
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I bet if we renamed it 17LRP or 17Creed the things would fly off the shelf and take over the shooting world...
In my mind, if CZ or someone else doesn't bring out a new gun this year it is dead. However, they will continue to make ammo.
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#3178805 - 12/17/18 08:26 PM
Re: Is the 17 WSM here to stay?
[Re: TripleDeuce660]
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Registered: 07/06/07
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Loc: Wisconsin
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I bet if we renamed it 17LRP or 17Creed the things would fly off the shelf and take over the shooting world...
In my mind, if CZ or someone else doesn't bring out a new gun this year it is dead. However, they will continue to make ammo. I'm guessing the same.
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#3178812 - 12/17/18 08:50 PM
Re: Is the 17 WSM here to stay?
[Re: TripleDeuce660]
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Die Hard Member III
Registered: 12/07/11
Posts: 2707
Loc: Pacific NW
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I bet if we renamed it 17LRP or 17Creed the things would fly off the shelf and take over the shooting world... That's actually pretty funny, good one! I still say, it would have been a better and more popular choice if they made it a 20 WSM rimfire and load it with something like the Hornady 24gr NTX bullet instead of a yet another 17 cal rimfire. I really like my 17 WSM but I would have liked a 20 WSM a lot more.
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