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#3142184 - 03/29/18 03:09 PM Patterning 12ga small game loads
Matlock Offline
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Registered: 12/15/15
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Loc: ID - Idaho
Most of the small game I go after are shot with rimfire or centerfire, but I found a great deal on some small game loads for my 12ga last fall so I figured I'd give them a shot. I think they should do just fine for rabbits:








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#3142189 - 03/29/18 03:34 PM Re: Patterning 12ga small game loads [Re: Matlock]
AdamT Offline
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Loc: Southwest Virginia, USA
Looks good.
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#3142209 - 03/29/18 05:57 PM Re: Patterning 12ga small game loads [Re: Matlock]
GC Offline
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Registered: 04/21/01
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Loc: Missouri
Looks like your gun might be throwing this particular load just a bit low...
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#3142218 - 03/29/18 06:24 PM Re: Patterning 12ga small game loads [Re: Matlock]
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I'll cut up the celery and carrots, looks like stew to me
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#3142257 - 03/29/18 10:08 PM Re: Patterning 12ga small game loads [Re: Matlock]
Dust Offline
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Registered: 12/06/08
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Loc: Frankfort, KY
Check Walmart for when they put turkey loads on clearance. 1.5 oz. of copper plated #4 for 35 cents per round.

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#3142260 - 03/29/18 10:20 PM Re: Patterning 12ga small game loads [Re: Matlock]
Matlock Offline
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Registered: 12/15/15
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Loc: ID - Idaho
GC, I think that may be me not being real seasoned with a bead sight. I'm patterning off a bench with a lead sled, so I'm trying to keep the variables to a minimum.

Thanks for the tip, Dust. I'll definitely keep an eye out for those.

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#3142287 - 03/30/18 01:16 AM Re: Patterning 12ga small game loads [Re: Matlock]
Bear Offline
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Registered: 02/03/07
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Loc: Colorado USA
Why #4 shot?I have used #6 with very good results, as in a more dense pattern. Just my experience.
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#3142305 - 03/30/18 10:01 AM Re: Patterning 12ga small game loads [Re: Matlock]
GC Offline
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Registered: 04/21/01
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Loc: Missouri
My shotgunning of rabbits has always been behind a pack of beagles or kicking them out of brush piles. That meant quick moving small targets that were running and dodging in thick cover. Usually fairly close ranges. A 20 gauge and improved cylinder or modified choke with an ounce of #6's was about perfect. My dad preferred the 16 gauge choked the same. Pop was murder on rabbits with his old Belgian Sweet Sixteen Auto Five. Our rabbits were cottontails. A western hunter shooting jacks at longer ranges should benefit from a 12 gauge with some more choke and larger shot.
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#3142337 - 03/30/18 02:30 PM Re: Patterning 12ga small game loads [Re: GC]
Matlock Offline
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Registered: 12/15/15
Posts: 985
Loc: ID - Idaho
Originally Posted By: GC
A western hunter shooting jacks at longer ranges should benefit from a 12 gauge with some more choke and larger shot.


This... went with #4 shot based on the recommendation of a fellow PM member who has done more than his fair share of shotgunning jacks. Not saying #6 wouldn't work, this was simply the way I went.

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#3143429 - 04/05/18 05:47 PM Re: Patterning 12ga small game loads [Re: Matlock]
TripleDeuce660 Offline
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Registered: 11/10/08
Posts: 2918
Loc: Las Vegas Nevada
For jacks I use 1 1/4 oz of #5s from a 12 ga. I never change my light modified choke for anything. More choke might result in more kills when they are sitting at long distance, but a disadvantage on the close range runners.

I take tons of jacks while after cottontail, chukar, and quail. When not going after them specifically, I use 1 oz of #6 in my 20 ga with a LM choke. This load will still drop jacks without a problem, but #5s from the 12ga drops them with noticeably more authority when they get out a little further or the hit is marginal. Overall, I prefer rifles if only after jacks just for the Challenge and practice.
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#3143569 - 04/06/18 12:42 PM Re: Patterning 12ga small game loads [Re: Matlock]
Matlock Offline
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Registered: 12/15/15
Posts: 985
Loc: ID - Idaho
That is some great info... thanks. I don't currently have a light modified choke, only SF, F, M, and IC. Next time I'm out patterning I'll test #4s with modified choke at 20-25yd and 40yd, so I have some comparison with my #4s and full choke.

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#3145154 - 04/16/18 10:57 PM Re: Patterning 12ga small game loads [Re: Matlock]
Matlock Offline
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Registered: 12/15/15
Posts: 985
Loc: ID - Idaho
I finally had a chance to test these shells on some jacks. It took them down with authority at ranges from 20-40yd. All and all I was 8 for 8, no wabbits got away smile I still want to pattern the #4s through my modified choke, just to see how they do. I have no doubts the #4s are perfectly sufficient for me.

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