Wow, very nice recordings Rich. That 2nd one is my favorite.

I'm glad this topic isn't a "Howl Off" contest. As, I would be sure to lose. It is more intended to share my techniques that I personally use to locate and howl in coyotes.

I'm feeling a bit hijacked.

Thanks...Tony

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I understand and Thank You Rich. That's kinda what I was trying to do. Simplify howling to the basics of 4 simple components and mixing them into the basic 2 types of howls I use.

We're seeing Eye to Eye.

Thanks...Tony

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I don't see anything harsh about Rich sharing his technique as did Tony. Seems like a good place to put several "variations" to the howling technique. It goes to show that there are certain coyote vocals that work, and you don't have to sound just like the vidoe that you watchhed, or the seller that you bought from, or your neighbor, or your buddy that does all the calling all the time, etc.
Just goes to show, much like th distress sounds, we all have our favorite, but we all need to open our ears and hear what else works and keep an open mind to new and differant sounds.
Harsh, not hardly. Fine job to the both of ya!!

It's all good.

Rich, no need to remove the sound files. I used to host them on my website for you.

Songdog, Variety is the spice of life. Also, I love your signature. I remember all the questions about your cow tip calls. Too funny.

Thanks...Tony

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I believe tony stated in the beginning that it was his opinion and that it was not iron clad! so if anyone took it as so it was their own fault if indeed there was reason to be at fault!
I have heard in person ,tony do his calls! they sound much better in person and I believe them to be fairly accurate! I am not a howler, but have killed more than my fair share of coyotes! budmandan asked for tony's opinion! no one elses .
predator masters is starting to look like another board I wont mention.a lot of new comers are intimidated by this approach and will not post for fear of being attacked or bullied! it should'n t be that way here! if you have a different opinion start you own post to state it or do so in private!
it's going to get to where PM has no call makers advertizing ! the list is starting shrink!
just my opinion!
keep 'em coming tony! you do a great job!

I totally agree with guess on this.And yes good work TT.PimC

I wanted to know Rich Higgins opinion about this thread since he gives seminars on howling, Predatormasters hunt this last year, and he wins or places in all the contests he enters including beating Rich Cronk in the Super Howl a couple of years ago. So I emailed him Here is his answer

maslatrans? I took a look at the thread and thought Tony did a good job. I didn't agree with all of it but he provided a good foundation for his students to practice with and develope their individual styles with. I can't comment on Mr. Cronk's posts, they had been deleted.

Thanks for the informative post. I am a newbie,and I was asking how you know the difference between the different howls. Now I know. THANK YOU.

You're welcome. Take it for what it's worth. One guys perspective. I've spent alot time on stands this season and have learned alot more. That's the name of the game. I might update the post with some new stuff learned.

Thanks...Tony

muleboy, I'm glad you are asking such good questions. I would have never found this great post.
R4B

Mr. Tebbe, Thank you for your info!
I will gladly listen to any advice from the CUSTOM call makers, as well as any guys who have hunted for a while!! This includes call makers who are new to the business.

This is something the inexperienced/new hunters definitely need to do. I've been after coyotes for years, & still learn something new, all the time.

Again, Thank You!!!!

hey tony, i tryed holding my call like you said. and man did it make a world of difference in the sound. more control like you said!! thanks for the info.