Originally Posted By: 6mm06
Rick,
Can you switch out the illuminator ring? Might try that if possible.
I think the Photon is a good scope for the money, but seems I have having multiple problems with it in getting the POI right. I first mounted it on my bolt .308 rifle and the POI was 10" low at 60 yards, and the sighting crosshair was maxed out.
Then I switched the scope to my AR and sighted in at 60 and 94 yards. The X setting is -21 and the Y coordinate is +17, with the max adjustment being a +/- 30. I then noticed that the reticle is not centered, but rather is high and left. Seems that moving the zeroing corsshair moves the shooting reticle to the same place. It's not way up in the corner but is noticeable. I phoned Sellwayh today and was informed that is normal when mounting on some rifles. I guess it just depends on the mount / rail etc. I didn't have this problem with the 4.6x model I had earlier, but then too I mounted it on a totally different rifle, so maybe the rifle mount had something to do with it.
Now I am thinking that maybe I need a 20 MOA base AND the Burris rings that have the adjustment inserts in order to get the crosshair as closely centered as possible.
The Photon is no Gen 3, that's for sure, but it's a pretty decent scope for the money. I can see well enough to drop a hog, coyote or whatever at 100 yards and beyond, but I feel that 100 yards is not bad.
I like this scope (6.5x) better than the 4.6x one I had earlier. Sellway has learned that cutting a certain size hole in the scope cap decreases the amount of light entering, thereby giving a bit clearer focus and less wash-out from the IR illuminator. For some of you that may not know, the scope comes with a objective cap that has the proper size hole in it, as well as a little insert that fills that hole up and leaves only a pin hole. The pin hole works for daytime shooting, but when night comes you just push out the insert and the scope is good to go. The onboard illuminator is essentially worthless in my opinion unless you plan on shooting close, maybe out to 50 yards or less (for my eyes anyway), but the T-20 I have works great. The scope is rated for .308 recoil and down. It takes 30mm rings.
If I get the Burris rings, I need to have a good understanding of how to turn those inserts to bring the scope reticle more in line with the POI and keep the crosshair as centered as possible. That's on the AR, but it may not be as pronounced on my .308 since I wasn't able to zero it on that one due to the POI being way too low. Seems to me, if I remember correctly, the windage was not too far off on that one but I can't say for sure since I didn't use it that much.
Just thought I would expand on the discussion of the Photon. Hope this helps in some way.
I'm glad you did. I spent quite a bit of time doing research on a NV setup before I finally pulled the trigger on the Photon. I came across many of your posts and found them all to be very helpful. I came close to just going with a PVS-14 behind my EOTech, or a new Gen3 magnified scope, but ultimately for where we hunt, I think the Photon will work quite nicely.
Our problem was that we were trying to use flashlights in wide open desert. So we'd run the call, and get them in close enough to distinguish the separation of their eyes reflection, but never close enough to get a good shot on a silhouette.
I haven't had a chance to zero the Photon yet, but I will keep you posted whether I run into any POI issues. So far in the testing I've done, I've been beyond impressed with the Photon, and it's exceeded nearly every expectation I had for it. You do see a lot of negative reviews online, but part of what pushed me to buy it was seeing
this video which showed me what a terrific difference having a nice IR makes. Most of the reviews I saw which were very negative did not many any clear indication whether they were using aftermarket IR, which makes a world of difference.
Originally Posted By: NoName1
Thanks - that would be incredibly helpful with my scope mount. It has picatinny rails on the top, so that bit of extra reach will be great. I already ordered the part today.