Indiana and our new regulations.

pretty much makes my point.

you have too few officers spread too thin & some yammerheads in the capital cook up a new law defining what's legal to hunt with. In doing do, they don't look at the fairly simply to understand, comply with & enforce in the field laws used by most other states, instead they write up something that's going to require officers to have a tablet with a spreadsheet of all possible legal variants as well as a pair of calipers so they can measure case lengths...

or they can be smart & just decide to not even ask what you're hunting with when they run into you in the field, unless they're dealing with some other obvious violation & just go all in on the round while they're at it.
 
I agree if they are going to use rifles let us make our own decision. I'd much rather use a 7mm08, 260, 338 Fed, 6.5 grendal, 6.5 Creedmoor answer 270 over a 300 mag. They are all safer IN MY OPINION for small farm lot hunting
 
I think that I would just buy an encore frame and slap a 20inch 460 s&w barrel on it. Add a 3-9 scope and be well equipped to 250yards or more with practice.
 
most states have regs like "centerfire rifles with greater than .24 caliber" and "centerfire handguns with a caliber greater than .24 and a barrel at least 4 inches long".

these are things that hunters can easily understand and know they're in compliance with. Officers can instantly determine legality in the field. they don't place a burden on anyone involved. easy to understand, easy to comply with, easy to enforce.
 
I, for one, am glad to see this much got done after the big let down last year. Sure I would rather see it list other calibers or just say .243/6mm and larger but at least it is a start.

Hopefully we can all be safe and responsible and this will be a success.

Still safer than Indy since they have to shoot at least one person a night up there!
 
I guess I'll hold onto my 358 custom for 4 years and see what happens, I just hope to end it bow season like I have the past couple of years. I hate gun season, I wish the DNR would shorten it or move it back. Move muzzleloader forward, something.... I wish the DNR would do something that made sense.

The same idiots that go to wally world and grab a hand full of slugs the night before season and think they are 100yd marksmen will now be grabbing a 243 and thinking they are a 300 yd sniper. They will wound the same amount of animals as they did with their closet queen 12 gauges.
 
Originally Posted By: Rhett SteeleI guess I'll hold onto my 358 custom for 4 years and see what happens, I just hope to end it bow season like I have the past couple of years. I hate gun season, I wish the DNR would shorten it or move it back. Move muzzleloader forward, something.... I wish the DNR would do something that made sense.

The same idiots that go to wally world and grab a hand full of slugs the night before season and think they are 100yd marksmen will now be grabbing a 243 and thinking they are a 300 yd sniper. They will wound the same amount of animals as they did with their closet queen 12 gauges.

Well think along the same lines. I'll keep my 450 once it gets finished and probably be all I need
 
Thanks for posting, but I'm still curious the legal standing for this. Indiana Law > DNA Regulation. The new Law is quite clear (in parts, anyways) and makes no allowance for the currently legal cartridges. It defines what is legal in a rifle. A letter from the DNR is nice, but does not (for me) completely resolve the legality of what is to be allowed afield this year. The language of HR 1231 does not include anything indicating that it is "on top of" what is already legal per DNR regulation. It says what is legal in a rifle, period.

Originally Posted By: biggen0_8Originally Posted By: yotehunter243I maybe wrong but thought I read that the previous 1.8" 358 and up chamberings are still legal.

Your correct, here is a letter that I picked off of another forum from a gentleman who contacted DNR.

House Bill 1231 was passed by the Indiana General Assembly this year and signed by the Governor. It was initiated by a state legislator and not the DNR. It allows the following high-powered rifles on private land only statewide, with a limit of no more than 10 cartridges (possessed in the field): .243, .30-30, .300, .30-06, and .308. All the cartridges presently legal are still legal on public and private land. All of these need to have a minimum case length of 1.16" and no full metal jacketed bullets can be used. These additional new cartridges are for private land only and all of the " in between" cartridges (270,etc) are not legal anywhere. We will have information in this year's DNR Hunting/Trapping Regulation guide, which will be available in late July. The bill language can be found on-line at: https://iga.in.gov/legislative/2016/bills/house/1231

Michelle Cain,
Wildlife Information Specialist
Certified Fisheries Biologist
Indiana Division of Fish & Wildlife
402 W. Washington St. Room W273
Indianapolis, IN 46204
(317)234-8240
mcain@dnr.in.gov

Now to add another question to the list, is this part of the bill.

IC 14-22-2.9 Sec. 9.(b) in part Deer hunters can use a handgun the fires a commercially available 10mm bullet. and Sec. 9.(d) Requiring the DNR to change any necessary rule to comply with this new section

So does this mean 40S@W is legal, or only the 10MM cartridge?

Guess there is nothing to do but wait and see.

It just would have been nice if somebody would have sat down with some sportsmen and really put some effort into making this an intelligent, understandable piece of legislation
 
Don't go using common sense on IN DNR (and now Legislature)....

Originally Posted By: Stu Farishmost states have regs like "centerfire rifles with greater than .24 caliber" and "centerfire handguns with a caliber greater than .24 and a barrel at least 4 inches long".

these are things that hunters can easily understand and know they're in compliance with. Officers can instantly determine legality in the field. they don't place a burden on anyone involved. easy to understand, easy to comply with, easy to enforce.
 
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