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#2903834 - 12/29/15 05:49 AM I may have a little issue.
12Ring Offline
Die Hard Member

Registered: 01/08/09
Posts: 540
Loc: Albuquerque New Mexico
My form 4 was recently approved. I did a trust I got all excited and wanted to get all my paperwork together and when I was printing It out I realized the name of my trust on my form 4 was wrong. For example let's say my trust was called XYZ Trust, well the name my dealer put on my form 4 says XZY Trust. The Z and Y were transposed. The ATF still approved it but I don't know what to do about that now. Is there any chance the ATF caught it being wrong on the form 4 and corrected it? My dealer has not yet received my stamp. It was approved 10 days ago.

I don't want to pick up my suppressor and be illegally in possession of it because of that. Any suggestions on what I need to do or do I just wait and see what the paperwork looks like when my dealer receives it?


Edited by 12Ring (12/29/15 09:25 AM)

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#2904056 - 12/29/15 03:02 PM Re: I may have a little issue. [Re: 12Ring]
6724 Offline
Die Hard Member III

Registered: 01/19/11
Posts: 3072
Loc: colorado
the atf will not correct it. if they noticed that if was different they would most likely have contacted you to have you correct error and send new paperwork in.
after you get it, you should follow up on your end.

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#2904136 - 12/29/15 06:01 PM Re: I may have a little issue. [Re: 12Ring]
12Ring Offline
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Registered: 01/08/09
Posts: 540
Loc: Albuquerque New Mexico
Oh man I'm so mad at myself for not catching it. I even sat down with the form 4 and looked it over to make sure everything was correct and I guess my brain saw the three initials and it didn't register that they were transposed. I have been waiting a total of 7 months between the form 3 transfer and the wait on approval of the form 4. If the correction takes another 4 months, I will be so disappointed. Stupid mistake by both myself and the dealer. Bummed out right now.

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#2904137 - 12/29/15 06:01 PM Re: I may have a little issue. [Re: 12Ring]
DesertRam Offline
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Registered: 04/26/01
Posts: 9395
Loc: Las Cruces, NM USA
Unfortunately I can't answer your question, but hope you get it sorted out. I would, however, like to hear about your experience with setting up a trust here in NM. I've been considering the same move. If you get a chance and don't mind, shoot me a PM or email, or I can give you a call to discuss. Thank you.
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#2904198 - 12/29/15 07:54 PM Re: I may have a little issue. [Re: DesertRam]
B23 Offline
Die Hard Member III

Registered: 12/07/11
Posts: 2707
Loc: Pacific NW
Interesting dilemma you have and it'll be interesting to see how this plays out for you. Maybe you could just make the "Trust" name match your Form 4 name and your trust would now be known as whatever the name on your Form 4 is but I'm in no position to give legal advise so if that would be considered an illegal act, obviously that won't work.

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#2904269 - 12/29/15 09:34 PM Re: I may have a little issue. [Re: B23]
rickyb Offline
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Registered: 02/07/07
Posts: 756
Loc: Little Rock, AR.
Originally Posted By: B23
Interesting dilemma you have and it'll be interesting to see how this plays out for you. Maybe you could just make the "Trust" name match your Form 4 name and your trust would now be known as whatever the name on your Form 4 is but I'm in no position to give legal advise so if that would be considered an illegal act, obviously that won't work.


Would be talking with an attorney to see if this would work.

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#2904282 - 12/29/15 09:46 PM Re: I may have a little issue. [Re: 12Ring]
Wyoming Winchester Online
Seasoned Member

Registered: 07/25/13
Posts: 280
Loc: WY
FORM ANPTHER TRUST With the new name,NOW

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#2904399 - 12/29/15 11:54 PM Re: I may have a little issue. [Re: 12Ring]
Rocky1 Offline
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Registered: 11/24/10
Posts: 11518
Loc: ND/FL - USA
I have a sneaky suspicion that an attorney is going to tell you that forming another trust to match the name on the form 4, is NOT going to work, because date of establishment of the new trust would be after the date of submission of the application and date of issue of the Form 4, to a non-existent trust at the time it was issued.

A minor technicality, no doubt, but probably not one you would want to come back and haunt you somewhere down the road.
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#2905713 - 01/02/16 01:37 AM Re: I may have a little issue. [Re: 12Ring]
tugboater Offline
Die Hard Member II

Registered: 07/27/13
Posts: 1186
Loc: out in the brush washington
I didn't go the trust route, but had the ATF send my papers back because the serial number was wrong for the suppressor. A quick trip to the gun shop that I ordered the suppressor from and the problem was fixed. I sent it back to the ATF and had my can in less than 2 weeks.
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#2905764 - 01/02/16 09:20 AM Re: I may have a little issue. [Re: 12Ring]
vanhornet Offline
Seasoned Member

Registered: 04/30/15
Posts: 296
Loc: mid mo
To avoid any problems, I would call BATF and explain the situation. In my experience they will usually help with such problems, with a minimum of time delay. I suspect a couple days to couple of weeks.

My last name is 2 words, separated with a space in between, Vxx Hxxx, and this caused problems that were easily fixed by BATF.

This was YOUR fault though, so this is all speculation, but I would call anyway.

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