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#2706096 - 08/02/14 01:06 PM Re: Is it legal in your state to chase? [Re: ILPredHunter12]
DAB Offline
Die Hard Member II

Registered: 05/10/09
Posts: 1697
Loc: Sandy Oregon
Originally Posted By: ILPredHunter12
As someone said before earlier in the post, we don't need anymore restrictions on hunting. But, it does tick me off to be hunting on my ground or ground I have permission to and people run their dogs across it. In my area, there is my group and one other group who hunts coyotes. Their dogs ran across property my family owns. I caught up with the guys later that day, I asked them very politely to please keep their dogs off of the property and they gave me the "oh, those weren't our dogs". That kind of burned me up, especially since its just us that hunt them and there is hundreds and thousands of acres to hunt. There is no sense in stacking up on top of each other when its just us that hunts. I don't chase them with vehicle or dogs, but I don't think it should be illegal. I just wish some people would use ethics and have respect for other peoples' property. That's my take on it.


What you should have told them after they said it wasn't their dogs "well the next dogs we see on our property get shot on sight" and we will just say they were chasing deer or stock. So if it is there dogs you will know right away by their actions and speech. The first thing out of their mouth after you tell them the trespassing dogs will be shot on sight will be " you kill my dogs and I / we will ( you can fill in the blanks ).

I have a friend that lives in Nebraska that chased coyotes with a snow mobile. He has a scar almost from ear to ear where he caught a strand of barbed wire in the mouth while going like [beeep] on a snowmobile chasing coyotes. He is [beeep] lucky to be alive.

TO the OP.
If it is legal and they are not on your property just suck it up and find another spot to hunt.

They have as much right to hunt their way as you do to hunt your way.



Edited by DAB (08/02/14 01:10 PM)

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#2754996 - 12/08/14 06:09 PM Re: Is it legal in your state to chase? [Re: HT308]
shawn@mo Offline
Seasoned Member

Registered: 11/25/14
Posts: 468
Loc: missouri,salem
Hu move to Missouri not enough flat clear land to drive trucks to chase, we do use hounds, let loose on one county road while a group is on the other county road waiting. In Missouri it is illegal to shoot from the truck or whatever..

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#2754997 - 12/08/14 06:18 PM Re: Is it legal in your state to chase? [Re: shawn@mo]
GC Online
PM Junkie

Registered: 04/21/01
Posts: 17140
Loc: Missouri
Originally Posted By: shawn@mo
Hu move to Missouri not enough flat clear land to drive trucks to chase, we do use hounds, let loose on one county road while a group is on the other county road waiting. In Missouri it is illegal to shoot from the truck or whatever..


Or roadway...
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#2755006 - 12/08/14 06:46 PM Re: Is it legal in your state to chase? [Re: GC]
shawn@mo Offline
Seasoned Member

Registered: 11/25/14
Posts: 468
Loc: missouri,salem
Lol true cg but in my neck of the woods we want a road a road gets made, made take a day or so but it gets done... I've been in situation with guys removing tree after tree on government land to prep for deer season, wasn't a big fan of that one

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#2755031 - 12/08/14 07:25 PM Re: Is it legal in your state to chase? [Re: HT308]
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Registered: 04/21/01
Posts: 17140
Loc: Missouri
Not sure what you're talking about but it sounds like bad behavior. Bad behavior usually has a bad consequence in the end.
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#2755432 - 12/09/14 01:41 PM Re: Is it legal in your state to chase? [Re: HT308]
RePete Offline
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Registered: 07/11/07
Posts: 5783
Loc: Idaho (Clearwater County)
Originally Posted By: HT308
I just think they don't have ethics, and need to be shutdown..


Sooooo, only your type of hunting is "ethical" and should be legal.

Personally,,,, I think e-callers are unethical. How's about we shut them down too?
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#2755450 - 12/09/14 02:21 PM Re: Is it legal in your state to chase? [Re: HT308]
reaper4 Offline
Die Hard Member II

Registered: 02/25/14
Posts: 1975
Loc: maryland eastern shore
woahhhhh, lets not bring the e-callers into this. what did they ever do to you?
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#2755491 - 12/09/14 03:41 PM Re: Is it legal in your state to chase? [Re: Rugershooter]
Hibs Offline
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Registered: 11/15/11
Posts: 581
Loc: Ft Meade, MD
Originally Posted By: Rugershooter
Some of you guys need to get off of the "20 Mile" bit. He isn't complaining of driving 20 miles. The problem is having his hunting trip ruined by other hunters by a certain method of hunting.

I used to do the pickup chase style of hunting. We never trespassed, stayed away from the cattle, and closed gates. But there are a lot of groups that don't care about any other the above. Some groups surround a section of ground, then shoot out the area with .22s or other rifles to get the coyotes going. Not very smart in my opinion. While calling, I have been surrounded by pickups. I got up before they started shooting. Yes, they were trespassing and didn't care.

I don't know if it should be outlawed or not. it can be done ethically, but the idiots far outnumber the people that do it right.


What part of Nebraska you from? That's exactly how they did it in my neck of the woods when I was growing up. Would all meet at the bar after church on sundays, fire up the cb radios, and have at it. I always prefered calling, myself.

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#2784728 - 01/24/15 01:24 AM Re: Is it legal in your state to chase? [Re: HT308]
odgreen Offline
Seasoned Member

Registered: 04/06/08
Posts: 100
Loc: Viola DE
Here in DE we have a chase season. And it falls with deer season, our property lies with state property so it's not uncommen to have dogs or truck's around. Sometimes it can be hit or miss as i've had them push state land deer to me or have had dogs lay under my stand and howl.
I've also made some good friends from the dog owner's that has opened up hunting opertunities for me. Also most good dog owners have tags with phone numbers on them and they are happy i have their dog instead chasing for miles looking for them. Unfortunatally a lot of them are older folks and we see less and less each year. Enjoy you're hunting and let them enjoy theirs, Around here it seems to be a dye ing sport.

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#2784890 - 01/24/15 01:42 PM Re: Is it legal in your state to chase? [Re: HT308]
Fursniper Offline
Retired PM Staff

Registered: 09/14/09
Posts: 1968
Loc: AZ
Chasing wildlife is NOT allowed in AZ. Here are the regs:

ARS 17-303. Taking or driving wildlife from closed areas
It is unlawful for any person, except by commission order, to enter upon a game refuge or other area closed to hunting, trapping or fishing and take, drive or attempt to drive wildlife from such areas.

R12-4-320. Harassment of Wildlife
A. In addition to the provisions established under A.R.S. § 17-301, it is unlawful to harass, molest, chase, rally, concentrate, herd, intercept, torment, or drive wildlife with or from any aircraft as defined under R12-4-301, or with or from any motorized terrestrial or aquatic vehicle.
B. This Section does not apply to individuals acting:
1. In accordance with the provisions established under A.R.S. § 17-239; or
2. Within the scope of official duties as an employee or authorized agent of the state or the United States to manage or protect or aid in the management or protection of land, water, wildlife, livestock, domesticated animals, human life, or crops.




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#2806498 - 03/01/15 08:00 AM Re: Is it legal in your state to chase? [Re: shawn@mo]
talltimber Offline
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Registered: 03/04/14
Posts: 6
Loc: SEMO
Originally Posted By: shawn@mo
Hu move to Missouri not enough flat clear land to drive trucks to chase, we do use hounds, let loose on one county road while a group is on the other county road waiting. In Missouri it is illegal to shoot from the truck or whatever..


Plenty of flat down here. Common practice. And hard on pickups.

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#2823653 - 04/14/15 11:35 PM Re: Is it legal in your state to chase? [Re: Fursniper]
Modoc Offline
New Member

Registered: 04/14/15
Posts: 2
Loc: Jefferson
Fursniper's quote is real close to California's F&G Code. It just stinks when the State trapper flies an area though. One year he marked up 100+ yotes in a day, 2 weeks before I had a chance to visit my folks and go calling. Made for lean pickings, but the calf crop didn't get hammered like it had the year before. I've found a couple of photos of offenders' vehicles has helped along with working with the local wardens, especially when I am hunting private ground with WRITTEN trespass permission. Besides, the land owner liked my reporting the violations after he had to repair a lot of fence because of the yahoos.

Yes, I hate having to report it, but if we don't police ourselves on the violations, it gives the bunny huggers more ammunition.

Originally Posted By: Fursniper
Chasing wildlife is NOT allowed in AZ. Here are the regs:

ARS 17-303. Taking or driving wildlife from closed areas
It is unlawful for any person, except by commission order, to enter upon a game refuge or other area closed to hunting, trapping or fishing and take, drive or attempt to drive wildlife from such areas.

R12-4-320. Harassment of Wildlife
A. In addition to the provisions established under A.R.S. § 17-301, it is unlawful to harass, molest, chase, rally, concentrate, herd, intercept, torment, or drive wildlife with or from any aircraft as defined under R12-4-301, or with or from any motorized terrestrial or aquatic vehicle.
B. This Section does not apply to individuals acting:
1. In accordance with the provisions established under A.R.S. § 17-239; or
2. Within the scope of official duties as an employee or authorized agent of the state or the United States to manage or protect or aid in the management or protection of land, water, wildlife, livestock, domesticated animals, human life, or crops.




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#2883181 - 11/15/15 05:23 PM Re: Is it legal in your state to chase? [Re: DAB]
AKarshooter Offline
Predator Master

Registered: 11/01/15
Posts: 56
Loc: Alaska,Kenai,USA
I can chase them as fast as I can run and as long

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#2887391 - 11/25/15 01:16 PM Re: Is it legal in your state to chase? [Re: Timberbeast7]
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Registered: 03/28/05
Posts: 9177
Loc: In the sage
Originally Posted By: Timberbeast7
You're complaining about driving 20 miles?


Exactly that would be a dream to hunt that close. I usually drive upwards of 200 miles + just to call.
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