Predator Masters using UBB.threads ™ Infopop Corporation.
PM Gear Moon & Weather

Welcome to the Predator Masters Forums
Be sure to visit the main Predator Master website at





PM Gear
PM Gear
PM Gear
The Official Predator Masters Search Engine
Search Predator Masters

Page 1 of 11 1 2 3 ... 10 11 >
Topic Options
#2470913 - 03/26/13 09:01 AM What's been your experience with Game Wardens???
yotehunter57 Offline
Die Hard Member III

Registered: 12/19/09
Posts: 2465
Loc: Arkansas
My experiences have all been very positive, with them just doing their jobs, like checking fishing liscenses.

Before he retired, I worked with one to stop "Road hunting" in my area. At one time it was so bad, jerks would stop in front of your house and shoot out of the window.
There are peeple who don't like me for it, but I really don't care what they think.

Shayne
_________________________
What gun would Jesus buy?

Herters U9 223
WT MA21

Top
#2471012 - 03/26/13 11:12 AM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
dog1whckr Offline
Die Hard Member III

Registered: 05/25/08
Posts: 2490
Loc: Wyoming
Everyone I have ever encountered(for the first time) act and look like your a violator. Even after you get to know them they SEEM to be questioning your behavior; even if you are the most honest sportsmen out there. Give me the impression they are more cop than the civilian version. Maybe I just look like a violator to them.

Top
#2471015 - 03/26/13 11:16 AM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
HardwickN Offline
Die Hard Member

Registered: 11/22/11
Posts: 774
Loc: Indiana/ Germany/Idaho
its always hit or miss with me. have ran into some real A holes and other just out doing thier job. some have even pointed me in a direction of game.
_________________________
Due to inflation your 2 cents no longer matters.

Top
#2471361 - 03/26/13 07:44 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
CSM52 Offline
Die Hard Member

Registered: 01/15/13
Posts: 543
Loc: North Carolina
Around here they are either excelent to deal with and talk to and others well....they thing their badge is a safegaurd and let them do anything.
_________________________
Respect a gun and it will respect you

Top
#2471427 - 03/26/13 09:00 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: HardwickN]
fw707 Offline
Retired Moderator

Registered: 03/18/09
Posts: 9466
Loc: Roadside watermelon stand
Originally Posted By: HardwickN
its always hit or miss with me. have ran into some real A holes and other just out doing thier job. some have even pointed me in a direction of game.


That seems to be a common opinion. Some are good guys, and some are real "A holes".

So let me ask a question:

Are all of the Troopers or deputies that stop you for speeding or running a stop sign "good guys", or are some of them "A holes"?
_________________________
“better the hard truth, I say, than the comforting fantasy.”

Carl Sagan

Top
#2471481 - 03/26/13 10:00 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
DesertRam Offline
Moderator

Registered: 04/26/01
Posts: 9129
Loc: Las Cruces, NM USA
My experience with NM game wardens have all be positive. I've probably had personal encounters with wardens a dozen times over the years and have had no issues. "How's it going, seen anything, had any luck, what are they biting on, can I take a look at your license, have a good day." My one encounter with a WY game warden was likewise not unpleasant.

Some work "harder" to find something wrong to give you a hard time over, but I've never had one really go on the attack.
_________________________
"A person is smart; people are dumb panicky dangerous animals and you know it." K as played by Tommy Lee Jones, Men In Black

Top
#2471490 - 03/26/13 10:10 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
GC Offline
PM Junkie

Registered: 04/21/01
Posts: 17046
Loc: Missouri
I think they are all human and as such are subject to the failings of the human race as a whole. Guess I’ve been pretty lucky; I haven’t had any bad encounters with any of our Missouri Conservation Agents. I have worked closely with some of them professionally and I have been checked while hunting and fishing when they didn’t know me from Adam and I have always been treated professionally. The only outdoor specific officer I have ever felt had a bit of an attitude was a U.S. Forest Service Ranger. As it was he recognized me and knew where I worked, he had been “let go” from my agency several years before and I am quite sure that had everything to do with his attitude. There wasn’t a problem this was just a routine check while my dad and I cleaned some game in the field but when he realized who I was he immediately stiffened up. He moved on quickly and it was a non-issue other than my dad commented how awkward the encounter seemed. That was the human factor within the Forest Ranger; it certainly wasn’t on my end as I hardly knew the guy.
_________________________
Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.

Top
#2471491 - 03/26/13 10:11 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
wvyotehunter68 Offline
Seasoned Member

Registered: 02/20/13
Posts: 351
Loc: wv
I had a bad encounter with one I was looking at deer with a light (spotlighting) I had no weapons or anything that could be used for killing. In the tuck. I was outside my vehicle looking at deer. Well the gamewarden saw me and I guess he needs to reread the laws because what I was doing was completly legal. Well to make the story short I was not charged for anything I was right he was wrong. He acted like a. Towards me the whole time
_________________________
I'm a weasel hunter that doesn't like chickens or snakes. I also walk like a possum. *Bill Gates

Top
#2471494 - 03/26/13 10:12 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
Tbone-AZ Offline
PM senior

Registered: 10/04/12
Posts: 6884
Loc: AZ, Phoenix
I have had good experiences, most of the time they tell me where they have seen coyotes.
_________________________
Have fun being an [beeep].. I hope it's all you hoped for.

Top
#2472437 - 03/28/13 09:27 AM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: fw707]
HardwickN Offline
Die Hard Member

Registered: 11/22/11
Posts: 774
Loc: Indiana/ Germany/Idaho
no thats just out doing their jobs. some are A Holes about it and some are cool about it. If Im breaking the law then Im breaking the law. I expect to get a ticket or at least a warning. But I Have had one treat me like I was breaking the law when I wasnt. That is what I ment about being an A Hole. Some LEO are out there to burn any one and every one they can. Some give people the benifite of the dought that hey maybe it truely was an accident or they just tuely did misunder stand the gray areas.

I have only ever ran into one that was being a real A. He thought we were breaking the law. it was a very very gray are in the law book. I called headquarters and explained the situation. he wasnt to happy that I went above his head but every one around knew that he was a real stickler for that small print stuff and always had his own interpratation of what the book said. Needless to say we didnt get ticketed. All other have always been very friendly and just out doing their jobs. I have no problem with that as I cant stand people who have no regards for the law.


Edited by HardwickN (03/28/13 09:39 AM)
_________________________
Due to inflation your 2 cents no longer matters.

Top
#2472601 - 03/28/13 01:52 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: fw707]
brained Offline
Die Hard Member

Registered: 11/14/07
Posts: 544
Loc: SE Texas
Originally Posted By: fw707
Originally Posted By: HardwickN
its always hit or miss with me. have ran into some real A holes and other just out doing thier job. some have even pointed me in a direction of game.


That seems to be a common opinion. Some are good guys, and some are real "A holes".

So let me ask a question:

Are all of the Troopers or deputies that stop you for speeding or running a stop sign "good guys", or are some of them "A holes"?


Agreed. My experience is there isn't an in between either. As far as troopers, have dealt with a few (little right foot heavy occasionally), they have all seemed to be stern, but fair, very serious, as they should be, generally not a holes though.

Common LEO, I had a few run ins in my younger days, they were hit and miss, some were a holes, some were stern but fair, and others were real cool.

Other peoples experiences I'm sure differ.


Edited by brained (03/28/13 01:53 PM)

Top
#2472628 - 03/28/13 02:21 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: fw707]
HardwickN Offline
Die Hard Member

Registered: 11/22/11
Posts: 774
Loc: Indiana/ Germany/Idaho
Originally Posted By: fw707
Originally Posted By: HardwickN
its always hit or miss with me. have ran into some real A holes and other just out doing thier job. some have even pointed me in a direction of game.


That seems to be a common opinion. Some are good guys, and some are real "A holes".

So let me ask a question:

Are all of the Troopers or deputies that stop you for speeding or running a stop sign "good guys", or are some of them "A holes"?


It deppends on their demeaner. you can have a boss that is a realy A. and you can have one that is stern. there is very much so a diffrence between an A$* and some one who is stern and professional. some act like you have already broken the law and your on Americas most wanted list and others are just out doing thier job. checking to make sure you are legal and not breaking the law.
_________________________
Due to inflation your 2 cents no longer matters.

Top
#2472640 - 03/28/13 02:31 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: brained]
Redfrog Offline
Chairman of the Board

Registered: 12/12/01
Posts: 18037
Loc: Palliser Triangle, Alberta
I have always been borderline crazy about hunting and fishing,as well as guiding for years, so I've met a lot of game wardens.

I've found thenm to be like all the hunters I've met. Some friendly, some not so much, some a total disgrace to the job and some so helpful they were like lifelong friends. In fact some have become lifelong friends.

I have met some that were just incompetent and others who were just high on authority. I have a few good stories both good and bad that still make me smile.

For the most part they have been like any one else doing a job.

Top
#2473277 - 03/29/13 10:43 AM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
catcapper Offline
Seasoned Member

Registered: 12/21/05
Posts: 136
Loc: Westcliffe,CO.
The bunny cops here are godlike--- mainly revenuers for the state.

Top
#2473278 - 03/29/13 10:44 AM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: dog1whckr]
yotehunter57 Offline
Die Hard Member III

Registered: 12/19/09
Posts: 2465
Loc: Arkansas
Originally Posted By: dog1whckr
Everyone I have ever encountered(for the first time) act and look like your a violator. Even after you get to know them they SEEM to be questioning your behavior; even if you are the most honest sportsmen out there. Give me the impression they are more cop than the civilian version. Maybe I just look like a violator to them.


When I was younger we had one that was a major AAAA=HOLE. He would have loaded your gun and held the light to get you to poach a deer.

When the GW that I worked with to stop the road hunting by my house retired, it took a lttle while with the new guys, to get them on board with me.
Now they know if I call them, it's over something potentially dangerous, like the road huntng or spotlighting deer, where a person or house could get shot.

Shayne
_________________________
What gun would Jesus buy?

Herters U9 223
WT MA21

Top
#2473402 - 03/29/13 01:53 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
littledawg Offline
Seasoned Member

Registered: 01/01/10
Posts: 434
Loc: western
The idea is to make as many contacts as possible during routine patrols. The good ones will be friendly and handout cards with their personal cell number. They know they can't be everywhere and enlist the help of the public to inform them of suspicious activity. GW or any Leo for that matter cannot and will not catch violators w/o the publics help. Be an ahole and nobody will help.

With that said you must keep in mind the age of the GW. The younger they are the more prone they are to "know it all". Especially fresh out of college and the police academy. They are no different than your own kids. The seasoned GW will tend to be more skillful during routine contacts. He won't get to high or too low and it's never personal.

Just like any person (Leo or not) they all have their own pedujuce and life experience. What may be a serious violation to one is only a minor thing to another.

The newer the GW the more likely he is to view a violation as a personal attack. He takes ownership and the public perception is that he acts like he owns the animals. Most of the time he has no idea this is how he is coming across.

Just some thoughts to keep in mind during your next encounter....

Top
#2473714 - 03/29/13 11:43 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
Savagenut Offline
Seasoned Member

Registered: 09/13/08
Posts: 275
Loc: southern MO.
..Years ago, in my wilder days, I had an encounter with a GW who had been around for several years. Two other guys were with me, and we all got tickets. We were in the wrong, and the GW did his job without much fuss, without acting like it was a personal insult to him.

Since then, I have made sure I was in the right, and have had no problems. (Strange, that if you're not doing something wrong, or something that LOOKS wrong, you won't have too many problems.)

Anyhow, the local GW we have is a really decent guy. If you're in the wrong, he will write you up, no doubt about it. If you are just out hunting, and you aren't throwing up any red flags, you have no problem. He's helpful if you have questions, and he likes to see kids have a good hunt. He doesn't have an "attitude", at least, in my encounters with him.

All in all, a credit to his department.
_________________________
Born and raised in Deep Pond Holler.

Top
#2474255 - 03/30/13 10:26 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
wvyotehunter68 Offline
Seasoned Member

Registered: 02/20/13
Posts: 351
Loc: wv
I've deer hunted with one one time that gw seemed to be a nice guy. Come to think I forgot to even fill out a field tag for the deer I shot. He didn't even say a word about it. I think its really who you no most of the time I was hunting with 4 cops that day to. Which my relative was one of them. But like in my recent post some are just aholes. I'm pretty sure if I had a 8 point buck with 19 inch spread sitting in the back of my truck with no field tag filled out I woulda been fined and had the deer taken away if it was a gamewarden that had no idea who I was. 99 percent of the time I fill one out heck I've even used the tip of my bullet to fill them out before when I had nothing else to write with. But that day I was just so wound up I forgot to.
_________________________
I'm a weasel hunter that doesn't like chickens or snakes. I also walk like a possum. *Bill Gates

Top
#2474438 - 03/31/13 07:49 AM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
borkon Offline
Die Hard Member with a vengeance

Registered: 04/05/09
Posts: 4185
Loc: minnesota
we had a King Scat warden here 30 years ago. crabby all the time.
since he retired, i've never had a bad encouter.
our local CO is a heck of a nice guy and even the few guys i know that have been ticketed have said so.
_________________________

winner of the first annual Coyotehunter.net Tournament Series


Top
#2481847 - 04/12/13 12:37 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
Longnkrnch Offline
Die Hard Member II

Registered: 03/21/12
Posts: 1450
Loc: Louisiana
I have been checked many times over the years and have yet to run into a warden that was less than courteous and professional. Have had some long and friendly conversations with a few and gotten a few tips. Just last season had a new guy give me permission to use my 4 wheeler to retrieve deer when killed (guess he noticed I wasn't a spring chicken). One warden/ biologist that checked me years ago and is now retired is a good friend. I have never had to deal with an A hole warden and hope I never do. I do my best to stay legal but mistakes can always happen.
_________________________
Muslims who do not actively participate in terrorist acts, live vicariously through those that do.
Happy shooting
Longneck

Top
#2482085 - 04/12/13 09:13 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
Mr Benelli Offline
Die Hard Member

Registered: 03/22/10
Posts: 867
Loc: Parris Island
99 percent of the time it has been positive. Twice I have been stopped and the first words out of their mouth were curse words and not Hello. Each time was a different Warden and they thought I was hunting turkeys out of season. When I was actually hunting crows in season. Now they felt stupid!

Months later I learned one of the wardens was transferred later as a result of harassing a deer hunter.

My advice to anyone is when you meet them let them walk to you, make sure your gun is safe, and let them do "all" the talking. I had a friend one time walk to the warden and the warden wrote him a ticket for a loaded firearm less than 150 ft from the road. You would be surprised how many states have hunting laws/local laws/bylaws/federal laws that are not in the State Hunting regulation guidebooks.

At one time I had hunting licenses in 5 states and the worst state I would say is PA for the Wardens. They have some type of part time or deputize wardens. They pay particular attention to people from out of state = More revenue. Had several opening day deer hunts ruined with license checks. Funny thing is they already ran the truck registration and verified the hunting license was valid before they even approached me.
_________________________
NRA LIFE MEMBER - AND YOU SHOULD BE TOO IF YOU WANT TO PROTECT YOUR RIGHTS!
I'm the one that Protects your gun rights every day.
SCP2 custom, Shockwave custom, Prairie Blaster,
Truck Pro

Top
#2482138 - 04/12/13 11:00 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
Rocky1 Offline
PM Junkie

Registered: 11/24/10
Posts: 11518
Loc: ND/FL - USA
Have known the warden in my hometown in ND for nearly 30 years. Hasn't ever once asked for my license. Locals he's got a list printed out of who purchased/received what licenses, and knows if you're legal.

Ex's cousin was living in Arizona and moved back to ND over the summer, one year. Applied for a resident license in both states. That didn't go over good! But the warden found him before he ever went to the field and told him, that was a definite no-no!! Said if he found him in the field hunting on a resident license in ND, while in possession of a resident AZ license, he would be ticketed. Hence the knowledge of his printed list of locals!! Small town, he knew Danny had just moved back, caught the resident license, and decided to check AZ just because. He does his job, does it well, otherwise friendly, cordial, frequently helpful. Let's you know where the fish are biting, let's you know where he's seen waterfowl coming in, let's you know where he's seen a nice buck or two. Great guy.

Met a Federal Warden over a buck I killed on a Waterfowl Production Area, couple years ago. Nicest guy you ever wanted to meet! Had my tag in my coat pocket and it had warmed up considerably, so I took my jacket off and left it in my jeep when we started the walk. So NO tag on me when I shot the buck. Made sure I grabbed it when I went back to retrieve the deer with the other truck. He told us it really should have been tagged before moving it the 30 yards up the hill, but didn't get real excited about it. Told us others might however. Handed me his pen and told me to sign the tag I forgot to sign as well. Then made sure I cut out the date properly. In that I'd jumped in the other truck, one of the guys' license was still in my jeep, and he hauled him up there to check that. Thanked us for being so patient and cordial in dealing with all his questions and the license checks, congratulated me on taking an awesome buck, and was on his way. Really a nice guy to deal with, was actually a very pleasant experience.
_________________________
Think about how stupid the average person is, then stop and realize... Half of them are stupider than that! -- George Carlin

Top
#2483682 - 04/15/13 11:53 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
5spd Offline
PM senior

Registered: 11/29/08
Posts: 7406
Loc:
The only one I met out here in the field so far was alright.
I was near my antelope spot at still pretty dark AM as I have to walk 3/4 mile to my spot before daylight hits and saw a truck a mile ahead of me as I pulled off the dirt road on a knoll and the headlights shined up into the sky. He came up the road and pulled in behind me and I was thinking who the heck is this idiot. I thought it was a road hunter until after he pulled up behind me where I was parked in a depression.
It was a game warden and he said he saw spot lights. I said not a chance that was my headlights you saw and you may have a look into my truck to check if you want. He said no but let me see your tags etc.
I said I will have a light to walk in the dark as per regulations. No problem, just be carefull & that was it.
He was out looking for early pre-opening hour shooters.
_________________________
Support the NRA!

Top
#2489736 - 04/27/13 10:45 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
JCL Offline
Die Hard Member

Registered: 03/15/06
Posts: 642
Loc: Wyoming
My son is a Wyoming game warden who puts in long days especially during hunting season. He worked 45 days straight last fall. He admitted that by the end he was a little less sympathetic than at the start. He loves his job. He has met all kinds of hunters and the vast majority are great folks. But every so often he finds one or two that are difficult and lie to avoid getting a fine. So if that warden questions your story don't take it personally. He is just doing his job.

I have met many wardens myself and have had positive experiences. They have a tough job and Im glad their doing it.


Edited by JCL (04/27/13 11:44 PM)

Top
#2493410 - 05/06/13 06:03 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: JCL]
SkyPup Offline
Moderator

Registered: 09/14/11
Posts: 4423
Loc: Florida
We work with the game wardens on our hog hunts on public land, they are absolutely awesome!

If you want to know where the game is and how to track it, ask your local game warden! grin
_________________________
I spend my money on dogs, horses, hunting, racing, women, and whiskey - the rest I waste.

Blood -> The Ultimate Biofuel
You can not argue with a sick mind.


Top
#2494366 - 05/08/13 07:57 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
bignasty Offline
Seasoned Member

Registered: 08/17/12
Posts: 493
Loc: Tucson Arizona
never had any issues

I use to work with them while I was in the coast guard we had their back and they covered ours

Top
#2495954 - 05/12/13 10:09 AM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: bignasty]
villagelights Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 01/30/13
Posts: 40
Loc: Oregon
In 7 decades, the first 3 of which were rawther ... shall we say ... spirited?.. I've run into a fair number of LEO's. The vast majority were just doing their jobs the best they could. Only a few are predators.

Top
#2495983 - 05/12/13 11:14 AM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
Orneryolfart357 Offline
PM senior

Registered: 10/06/07
Posts: 9053
Loc: Nevada
In the last 7 years I have only been checked by a Warden once. It was this year during Deer season. I went with friends but only to hunt Bobcats and Coyotes. When He asked to see My Deer tags, I explained that I had none, but reached into the front of My Coveralls and pulled out My lanyard with calls. He was very nice, and wished Me luck saying " I hope you get some of those fawn killers". He was a real nice fellow.
_________________________




Top
#2496589 - 05/13/13 08:10 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
Rock Knocker Offline
Die Hard Member III

Registered: 12/29/11
Posts: 3392
Loc: Buffalo, MN
I got yelled at once by the MNDNR but I held my ground firm and ended up not in trouble.

Me and two friends were out in a state forest shooting some guns at cans and other targets. We had a hand gun a couple shotguns and my AR-15.

The year before this encounter I had talked to the park ranger and he said it was perfectly fine and he even showed me on the map the best place to go. I had shot there a couple other times.

Right as we were finishing our shooting we hear a guy yelling for us to drop our weapons. We do and a couple game wardens come walking through the forest, quite upset. Screaming about what I was doing and telling me I was going to kill someone. I was shooting 30 yards down hill into another hill...

I stood my ground and told them I talked to the ranger and I had also called the DNR the weekend before to make sure, and they said it was perfectly ok. We discussed back and forth for a couple minutes but our targets and our empty shells were clearly accounted for and we were breaking no laws. Our shooting was already done and they escorted us out and when we got to their vehicle they checked our records and let us go.

Other than that I have only had my fishing license checked twice, no problems. I've even considered going to school to become a DNR officer.


Edited by Rock Knocker (05/13/13 08:14 PM)

Top
#2502324 - 05/29/13 12:49 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: Rock Knocker]
The Famous Grouse Offline
Die Hard Member II

Registered: 12/09/09
Posts: 1116
Loc: St. Paul, MN
It's been really positive as far as actual Conservation Officers here in Minnesota.

We did have one really funny--well, funny after the fact, anyway--incident while out pheasant hunting in Western MN. My uncle has a few thousan acres of farmland out there and we were working a CRP patch that borders a well-traveled tar county road. The wardens must cruise this road because we get checked almost evey year while hunting this piece.

So we just got through the CRP, one rooster, and back to the truck and a green pickup truk stops on the highway. Yep, right on time.

Conservation officer pulls up, no problem, whatever. Same guy that checked us the last 3 years. I told him we were worried he wasn't going to show up. He gets out holding a clip board.

It was at this point that the encouter went downhill somewhat. We happend to have borrowed one of my uncle's labs to take with us. Blaze is the nicest, most even tempered, best-with-children dogs ever and she'll gladly hunt for anyone.

But there was a problem. A couple of years before, the substitute UPS driver had decided to leave a package in the machine shop as my uncle wasn't home. He got all the way into the dark shop before flipping on the lights and discovering he was surrounded by 6-7 labs who were not really aggressive, but on edge because they didn't recognize him. So he clocked Blaze with a clipboard as he ran out the door.

So here we are, out in the field, with a dog that unknown to us, has a huge grudge for ANYONE in a brown uniform with a clipboard. Yeah. You can see where this is headed.

Sadly, there could be but one outcome. Blaze sees the warden get out of the truck and goes on the offensive. The full deal, growling, snarling, teeth showing, hair up. The warden jumps into the back of the truck and Blaze keeps him "treed".

It fell to me to say to immortal lines to the warden, "Drop the clipboard, sir, and put your hands in the air."

Which he did. And Blaze instantly ceased barking and walked back to her kennel in the truck. Where she laid down and growled softly at the warden. Needless to say, I had some 'splainin to do...

After the incident I told dad that I was sure there would be some serious paperwork to do if we had to take the warden in to the ER to have a 50 pound black lab unclamped from his unit. Not a great inroducuction, but the warden took it with good humor, part of the job, etc.

Grouse

Top
#2503542 - 06/01/13 11:01 AM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
jrcampbell Offline
Die Hard Member II

Registered: 01/05/12
Posts: 1272
Loc: butler co., pennsylvania
never had any problem with the wardens around here. I've been checked exactly once in 20 years of hunting. We used to hunt flintlock with one warden and his deputies years ago. Ok guys if you knew them. I do know alot of guys that were kind of outlaws years ago who have straightened out in their older age, but the wardens still keep a dang good eye on them. I have to say though that I don't believe our local warden to be too bright. examples- last year I got checked for the first time ever. took my license out and handed it to him. he had a confused look and after about 5 minutes asked me why I had two licenses. I had to show him that my second hunting license was my furtakers license. next example-my buddy had some coon sets out near a mutual friends house. mutual friend sees wardens truck parked at bridge and goes to see what problem is. there is a live mink in trap, mink are not in season. warden says he is going to get a club and kill the mink. friend says whoa, Ill get buddy who set trap. buddy shows up, warden starts to write him a fine. buddy takes snare pole out of truck, snares mink, lets it go. warden gets in truck without another word and drives off.
_________________________
chance favors the prepared mind

Top
#2503726 - 06/01/13 10:27 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: jrcampbell]
Mr Potato Head Offline
Die Hard Member II

Registered: 01/19/12
Posts: 1213
Loc: Indiana
Been checked three times in my life, 50 years of hunting and fishing. Two in one week on Sanibel Island FL and the third on Sanibel a year later. Twice by the same Fed and once by a local State that was a complete A$$ for no reason. Badge heavy goof.
_________________________
"Leave the gun, take the cannoli."

Top
#2510255 - 06/21/13 08:54 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
trapperslabs Offline
New Member

Registered: 08/09/09
Posts: 6
Loc: nc
I have lived in North Carolina for over 38 years. I am a retired LEO who has fished - hunted - and trapped my entire adult life. I have been checked by the Game Wardens in NC far more times than stopped while driving. Never been cited by Wildlife or Law Enforcement ... because I always gave respect to earn respect ... and when the Game Wardens had finished their business the conversation would always go to friendly they would answer questions and give some help on where to be and when ... I hate the state wants to cut their budget by 50 % .... Also I will never forget Dean Mayse NCWRC Officer killed in the line of duty by 2 illegal deer hunters in 1980 ... RIP Warden Mayse

Top
#2515726 - 07/08/13 12:41 AM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
pk1 Offline
Die Hard Member II

Registered: 07/20/06
Posts: 1417
Loc: Oregon
I've got a couple of bad guy stories but bottom line is the good guys outnumber the bad guys 100 to one.

Last October I was calling daytime in the California desert and ran into a young warden. He watched me for a while before approaching me and after checking me out from a distance he checked to see if I had a license. I told him I was glad to see him because those non resident licenses cost a lot of money and I was glad to finally show one to somebody. He laughed and we started talking about the town where he was stationed because I once lived there myself. He was also interested in calling in a bobcat and discussed that. We had a friendly discussion that lasted a good hour.

When I was a kid I encountered a couple of wardens that kept me from unintentionally breaking the law. I call them good guys, too.
_________________________
It's not that I didn't know how to juggle. I just didn't have the balls to do it.

Top
#2515821 - 07/08/13 01:17 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
Me and Sally Offline
New Member

Registered: 06/28/13
Posts: 2
Loc: Texas ( Heartland )
Met both kinds , the young ones seem to be cocky and full of themselves to the point that its impossible to even carry on a conversation with them . I guess they are still suffering from the " shiny badge syndrome " .
The older warden that just walked up on me while I was fishing was a pretty good guy considering I had my license on me and had not caught anything yet .



SEMPER FI AND DEATH BEFORE DISHONER .............

Top
#2516751 - 07/10/13 04:36 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
BigGrizz Offline
Seasoned Member

Registered: 12/13/11
Posts: 378
Loc: Wyoming
I know one in WY that is a real (Insert expletive here)!!!!

But for the most part, every other GW in WY seems to be cordial and not predisposed to wanting to handout citations.

Top
#2517106 - 07/11/13 12:50 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: BigGrizz]
Stirling XD Offline
Seasoned Member

Registered: 08/18/09
Posts: 278
Loc: Northern Colorado
Originally Posted By: BigGrizz
I know one in WY that is a real (Insert expletive here)!!!!

But for the most part, every other GW in WY seems to be cordial and not predisposed to wanting to handout citations.


I've talked to a couple of people that have a less than favorable opinion of WY wardens. One guy bought a the out-of-state fishing license to fish in WY (he was from CO). The game warden came by to check him and first thing he said was, "What's the matter? Don't they have fish in Colorado?"

The other guy (from CO) had killed a deer and was butchering it in camp. The tag was attached to the antlers. Once again, the GW asked, "What's the matter? Don't they have deer in Colorado?" When the guy cut the head off the carcass and laid in the truck bed, the GW pulled out his ticket book and started to write him a ticket for not having the tag attached to the edible portion of the carcass. After much argument the GW eventually let him off with a warning. Granted for a few minutes the carcass wasn't legally tagged, but the way the GW handled it left a bad taste in my friend's mouth. And a little bit in mine too.

But my contacts with GWs have all been friendly and professional.

Top
#2517207 - 07/11/13 04:48 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: Stirling XD]
BigGrizz Offline
Seasoned Member

Registered: 12/13/11
Posts: 378
Loc: Wyoming
Originally Posted By: Stirling XD
Originally Posted By: BigGrizz
I know one in WY that is a real (Insert expletive here)!!!!

But for the most part, every other GW in WY seems to be cordial and not predisposed to wanting to handout citations.


I've talked to a couple of people that have a less than favorable opinion of WY wardens. One guy bought a the out-of-state fishing license to fish in WY (he was from CO). The game warden came by to check him and first thing he said was, "What's the matter? Don't they have fish in Colorado?"

The other guy (from CO) had killed a deer and was butchering it in camp. The tag was attached to the antlers. Once again, the GW asked, "What's the matter? Don't they have deer in Colorado?" When the guy cut the head off the carcass and laid in the truck bed, the GW pulled out his ticket book and started to write him a ticket for not having the tag attached to the edible portion of the carcass. After much argument the GW eventually let him off with a warning. Granted for a few minutes the carcass wasn't legally tagged, but the way the GW handled it left a bad taste in my friend's mouth. And a little bit in mine too.

But my contacts with GWs have all been friendly and professional.


Where did this happen at? It may be the same guy.

Top
#2517339 - 07/11/13 10:23 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
allaroundhunter Offline
New Member

Registered: 07/10/13
Posts: 10
Loc: Southeast Texas
I have encountered game wardens on several occasions. The most notable of one was while I was dove hunting on family property, and a neighbor (850 yards away) called the police claiming that we shot his house.

The closest officer out there was a game warden, and he responded within about 15 minutes of us firing our first shots of the hunt. When we saw him arrive, we promptly unloaded our shotguns and left them leaning against a tree. I had forgotten that my Glock 19 was still loaded on my hip because of recent problems we had been having with feral dogs being aggressive. The warden checked our hunting licenses, made sure our guns only held the required 2+1, and then jokingly asked if I was hunting with my Glock. It freaked me out that I had forgotten about it and I apologized but he just laughed.

As the warden was handing my father back his shotgun, a police officer arrived and I noticed him start to blade away from me and put his hand on his sidearm. He mentioned something to the warden who said, "Yes, I do see it and no, it isn't a problem."

I have had nothing but good experiences with game wardens, and I do appreciate what they do.


ETA: My experiences have all been with Texas Game Wardens


Edited by allaroundhunter (07/11/13 10:24 PM)

Top
#2518475 - 07/14/13 09:43 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
EJ Reichenbach Offline
Die Hard Member III

Registered: 03/02/10
Posts: 2656
Loc: Wyoming
Growing up in Wyoming I met a few game wardens and most of them I would rather have not met, they all acted like you were doing something wrong. I hated the Wyoming game wardens seemed like I was constantly getting harrassed. The game wardens that I have encountered in Montana so far have all been nice guys.

Top
#2521442 - 07/22/13 07:33 AM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
Mark2 Offline
Die Hard Member III

Registered: 06/11/09
Posts: 2695
Loc: Western, Massachusetts
The few that I have dealt with here in Massachusetts have been jerks to put it nicely. And one of them did not know the law when it came to the caliber of rifle limitation at night. Here its 22-lr rim fire only. 17 hmr,22 wmr, are all illegal at night Tha one warden said that I could use a 17 hmr, and a 204 Ruger because they were smaller than a 22-lr. Good thing I did not follow his advice. And there is one town near me where you can't use a rifle of any caliber at any time, not even a rifled barrel shotgun or rifled barrel blackpowder. It's an Obama town for sure. the same game warden did not even know that.

Mark
_________________________
Exhale and send it!!

Top
#2521661 - 07/22/13 07:08 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
sumrifle Offline
Die Hard Member II

Registered: 06/14/06
Posts: 1111
Loc: Kern County CA
I have never had a single problem with a Game Warden. Been stopped over the years to check license and tags etc.. I was always polite and cooperative and so were they. By the way California no longer has "Game Wardens". Now they are "Wildlife Officers" What a bunch of crap!
_________________________
Kimber 84M in .204 Ruger is a varmint killer. Shorthaired Pointers may be the best dogs on earth.

Top
#2523489 - 07/27/13 12:13 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
red light outdoors Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 03/18/12
Posts: 37
Loc: central va
I have had some good ones and a few arrogant ones. Well we were making a few man drives trying to kill some deer it was 65 degrees outside so I left my jacket that I forgot had my license in the pocket in the truck I also left my gun being that I was doing the walking. we finish he sees me walk across the field I never touched a gun nor did I touch any deer that were killed. he still intended on giving me a ticket for not having my license on me long story short he looked like a a$$ in court when the judge laughed at him and told him I didn't even need license to walk in camo and hoot and harlor like a fool. We have one woman that patrols are area and you always hear how much of a A$$ female officers can be. She was one of nicest ones I have ever met I had killed two nice bucks the first morning of bow season and she intended on helping us go back in and help us retrieve are game and gear. No matter what they are going to do there job its just getting a long of young guys that think they have to prove there self not all are this way but a lot are. sorry it was so long

Top
#2523498 - 07/27/13 12:24 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
ameliafoxkiller Offline
Seasoned Member

Registered: 01/11/09
Posts: 230
Loc: rice virginia
Last year i got checked every time i went fishing. this year only once by a couple under cover officers. luckily they were nice being that my license had expired by one day and lucky for me i didn't have any lines in the water yet. they were definitely clever driving a old truck with a bed for a dog box one way to get it done i guess.

Top
#2523758 - 07/28/13 03:15 AM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
palmettopredator Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 05/28/10
Posts: 38
Loc: Raleigh, NC
While I was on the coast I ran into my share of the bunny police. Most are just out to do their jobs but the ones with their sights on moving into a federal bureau were the real a-holes. Those guys had no business with any badge. We had one guy that wrote enough tickets that he was sent on a vacation with his family (here say). He worked hard and was good at his job and no one liked him because of it. All the same my dad hadn't gotten his duck stamps and Angus brought them to our front porch, ON A SATURDAY MORNING, so my dad could hunt with my brothers and I the next day.

Top
#2523860 - 07/28/13 12:33 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
Coyotejunki Offline
PM senior

Registered: 04/03/04
Posts: 5166
Loc: MO
I can't say I have ever had a bad experience with a game warden, or opossum cop, or what ever name they go by. smile

Funny thing is, there was a guy working in NE MO that had a reputation with some of the locals that didn't like him. He got fired after a few years. It was kind of funny when we heard that his boss found out he was a felon and somehow slipped through the cracks and got a badge with MDC. laugh
_________________________
futuaris nisi irrisus ridebis



Top
#2524203 - 07/29/13 01:04 AM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
GC Offline
PM Junkie

Registered: 04/21/01
Posts: 17046
Loc: Missouri
I have a hard time believing that. You know this to be true? If so, convicted felon for what? The MDC does a very intensive and extended background check and their agents attend the state highway patrol academy. Frankly, I have seen a higher degree of professionalism from the MDC Conservation Agents than the State Troopers and I have worked with both over the years.
_________________________
Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.

Top
#2524309 - 07/29/13 12:06 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: GC]
Coyotejunki Offline
PM senior

Registered: 04/03/04
Posts: 5166
Loc: MO
PM Coming your way.

I'll give you some names and you can check with your connections.


Edited by Coyotejunki (07/29/13 12:15 PM)
_________________________
futuaris nisi irrisus ridebis



Top
#2524498 - 07/29/13 07:55 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
Mr Benelli Offline
Die Hard Member

Registered: 03/22/10
Posts: 867
Loc: Parris Island
Ive seen many law enforcement agents slip through the cracks. Several with a felony. Sometimes they dont catch it on background but later find it on a gun license renewal...
_________________________
NRA LIFE MEMBER - AND YOU SHOULD BE TOO IF YOU WANT TO PROTECT YOUR RIGHTS!
I'm the one that Protects your gun rights every day.
SCP2 custom, Shockwave custom, Prairie Blaster,
Truck Pro

Top
#2524751 - 07/30/13 11:17 AM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: Mr Benelli]
Fursniper Offline
Retired PM Staff

Registered: 09/14/09
Posts: 1967
Loc: AZ
Originally Posted By: Mr Benelli
Ive seen many law enforcement agents slip through the cracks. Several with a felony. Sometimes they dont catch it on background but later find it on a gun license renewal...

Can you be more specific and provide an example?


Edited by Fursniper (07/30/13 05:23 PM)
_________________________
Introducing a new person to hunting and watching them be successful is more rewarding than being successful yourself.

Make time to create a conservationist.

Top
#2524813 - 07/30/13 02:16 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: Mr Benelli]
GC Offline
PM Junkie

Registered: 04/21/01
Posts: 17046
Loc: Missouri
Originally Posted By: Mr Benelli
Ive seen many law enforcement agents slip through the cracks. Several with a felony. Sometimes they dont catch it on background but later find it on a gun license renewal...


Well I haven't. I've seen exactly one and I was asked to do the background investigation on this particular guy. Turned out he was caught removing a highway speed limit sign as part of a hazing for a college fraternity organization when he was nineteen years old and in college. The value of the sign was enough to bump the incident into the felony bracket at the time. He and his family were embarrassed and he quickly pled guilty and paid a fine and forgot about it. As many young people do he later changed his major and became a criminal justice graduate with a BS degree from that same university. He did make it through the law enforcement academy and was up for a full time law enforcement position when this popped up on his background screening. I brought my investigation results forward and his offense and this particular situation were judged to be a non-issue as he was a very highly regarded candidate with excellent skills and qualifications. Other than the college prank the young guy didn’t even have a speeding ticket. His hiring was postponed until he hired an attorney and put forth a petition to the courts to expunge his record. In his case he was successful and has been an excellent officer now for about twenty years. This is not to say I haven’t seen a few knuckleheads commit crimes while employed as a LEO. They usually get weeded out and things move on. The post causing this discussion reminded me to not spread gossip that I don’t know is true. And I think evidently that is exactly what happened here.
_________________________
Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.

Top
#2526295 - 08/02/13 04:09 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
TripleDeuce660 Offline
Die Hard Member III

Registered: 11/10/08
Posts: 2913
Loc: Las Vegas Nevada
Been stopped a couple times. Always nice to me. Check my shotgun plug, game bag, and ask me how the hunting is. I try my best to not break the law while hunting.
_________________________
People who hug trees shouldn't live in wooden houses!


Top
#2526327 - 08/02/13 05:39 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
NYyotekiller Offline
Die Hard Member

Registered: 11/01/09
Posts: 666
Loc: Van Etten, NY
I've never saw one while hunting, only while fishing. He was very polite and asked how they were biting, wished me luck and went on his way.

Top
#2527945 - 08/06/13 11:39 AM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
Riccur Offline
Seasoned Member

Registered: 01/30/04
Posts: 326
Loc: Maine
My experience with Warden's as well as any other law enforcement have been primarily positive.Esecially when i have all my ducks in a row if you will. Make their job easy they will be out of your hair soon enough. Only bad experiences with wardens occur with differing interpretation of rules and the confusion and headaches it can cause.

We need em and who can fault a person who actively pursues primarily armed people for a living.

Top
#2528023 - 08/06/13 03:07 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: Fursniper]
Mr Benelli Offline
Die Hard Member

Registered: 03/22/10
Posts: 867
Loc: Parris Island
Sure...A person had a felony robbery when they were a juvenile. They got a sealed record. So on his initial job application at age 21 he did not report it because it was adjudicated and sealed. Something u don't see anymore. Then after being on the job 10 years or so this particular state ruled the gun license background checks also apply to any arraignments and sealed records. So it came up. The funny thing is the Chief let him stay on the job, carry on the job, but would not issue him a permit to carry off duty.

If you want the particular case PM and i refer you to the news article also.
_________________________
NRA LIFE MEMBER - AND YOU SHOULD BE TOO IF YOU WANT TO PROTECT YOUR RIGHTS!
I'm the one that Protects your gun rights every day.
SCP2 custom, Shockwave custom, Prairie Blaster,
Truck Pro

Top
#2528026 - 08/06/13 03:13 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
GC Offline
PM Junkie

Registered: 04/21/01
Posts: 17046
Loc: Missouri
Mr. Benelli,
I can see how that happened because of the sealed juvenile record. I don't know that one mistake as a kid makes the guy a bad adult. It could be so but it might not and especially if in his ten years of service he was doing a good job. But as a reminder you used the word many slip through the cracks. That's one...?
_________________________
Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.

Top
#2528029 - 08/06/13 03:18 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
Mr Benelli Offline
Die Hard Member

Registered: 03/22/10
Posts: 867
Loc: Parris Island
Plus you got to remember the background checks are done by humans and errors or the good ole boy system can occur. Years ago if you were arrested for a felony and not fingerprinted, or the fingerprints rejected or lost it was not entered into national NCIC/FBI database.

GC ....the agency you did a background check hired a person with a felony.

Plus he was probably issued a gun license. Something that a lot of states would have rejected.
_________________________
NRA LIFE MEMBER - AND YOU SHOULD BE TOO IF YOU WANT TO PROTECT YOUR RIGHTS!
I'm the one that Protects your gun rights every day.
SCP2 custom, Shockwave custom, Prairie Blaster,
Truck Pro

Top
#2528035 - 08/06/13 03:57 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
GC Offline
PM Junkie

Registered: 04/21/01
Posts: 17046
Loc: Missouri
No... read it again.
_________________________
Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.

Top
#2528071 - 08/06/13 05:21 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: GC]
wageslave Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 01/18/10
Posts: 25
Loc: pnw
Idaho CO's are great, for the most part.

Washington's almost always seemed to me to have a "you have to have some sort of infraction I can ticket you for" type attitude.
I have only bird hunted in Washington over the years, so this opinion does not apply to big game, for me.
I would assume the same folks check big game, though.

I have the same report on the fishing side of things.
Idaho guys are wonderful.
Been checked by Washington and Oregon officers that were a-holes.


P.S. I hunt & fish legally and have never had a ticket in any state.

Top
#2528096 - 08/06/13 06:16 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
Tbone-AZ Offline
PM senior

Registered: 10/04/12
Posts: 6884
Loc: AZ, Phoenix
For the most part they have been fairly decient.
There was one time where I was in an area where they were pulling in like a swat team road block asking to see my lic.
It was a little over the top and annoying since they sprang that same trap on the same vehicle 3 times in 2 days. While i was out Coyote hunting. It was during an elk hunt and as soon as you pulled down the road, they would come charging in and block you from the front and back to stop you and check the vehicle.
Last time I checked driving down a dirt road didn't require a hunting lic. but I went along with it anyways.


The only time i get upset with FG is when i find out they are flying around in a plane shotgunning coyotes from the air.. Something that hunters can't do. I also wish they would impliment the same night hunting rules as Texas. They set the rules for night hunting, which I doubt seriously they have personally tried.. If they had done it.. The rules would be different.
_________________________
Have fun being an [beeep].. I hope it's all you hoped for.

Top
#2530061 - 08/10/13 04:27 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: Tbone-AZ]
lhitchcox Offline
Die Hard Member

Registered: 12/13/10
Posts: 990
Loc: SE Tennessee
Only one incident and that was with a part-time warden who just happened to be a full-time Ahole. All others have been respectful and just did their jobs.

Top
#2530105 - 08/10/13 06:30 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: Mark2]
twhitey Offline
Die Hard Member

Registered: 08/03/12
Posts: 515
Loc: MA
Originally Posted By: Mark2
The few that I have dealt with here in Massachusetts have been jerks to put it nicely. And one of them did not know the law when it came to the caliber of rifle limitation at night. Here its 22-lr rim fire only. 17 hmr,22 wmr, are all illegal at night Tha one warden said that I could use a 17 hmr, and a 204 Ruger because they were smaller than a 22-lr. Good thing I did not follow his advice. And there is one town near me where you can't use a rifle of any caliber at any time, not even a rifled barrel shotgun or rifled barrel blackpowder. It's an Obama town for sure. the same game warden did not even know that.

Mark

Mark I had the same issue with a epo officer he said he coyote hunts at night and uses a 17 Hmr and this was when they first came out.He in forces the law and didn't even know the laws.His exact words were last I was in school 17 was smaller than 22 lol.

Top
#2549256 - 09/27/13 07:48 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
22cat Offline
Seasoned Member

Registered: 12/13/05
Posts: 488
Loc: Andrews N.C.
I jumped a bike into the lake and got a $230 ticket for improper use of a public boat ramp. also there have been a few when they search my truck they sling my stuff everywhere trying to upset me. one time I was setting in my truck and didn't have my orange hat on because I was in my truck and he asked me to get out and he searched my truck, slinging my stuff around, then wrote me a warning ticket for not having on my orange. I have personally never had anything but a negative experience every time I have encountered a game warden. the last time one run into me I was in a friends car going up the road and seen where something had come off the bank into the road and I went to go see what it was and hear come one with a big mustache and checked me for a hunting license. I had no weapons cause I had just left college. but that was a few years ago and I really haven't seen any since then thank goodness

Top
#2551760 - 10/03/13 06:07 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
borrowed time Offline
Seasoned Member

Registered: 10/12/11
Posts: 191
Loc: Colorado
I've had very pleasant and interesting experiances with almost all the field officers I've met. I even helped turn in and collect evidence of a poacher once up in the mountains.

Most of the guys I meet in the field are pro-hunter/pro-fishing advocates that are willing to stop and talk about the areas and how things are going on the job and for supplying valuebal info.

I have only had one "Super-Cop" jag-off that soured me for a time in my favorite hunting area. fortunately I havent seen him since, probably had complaints piling up.

I really apprecaite all the hard and sometimes dangerous work they do.

Top
#2554037 - 10/09/13 03:03 AM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
223yoter Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 08/03/13
Posts: 39
Loc: Nebraska Holt county
In all my hunting and fishing adventures I've never seen a game warden in the field. Not once. I do know the local gw where I live now. Which is my home town. He has been the warden here for as long as I can remember. His son and I were good friends for a long time, still kinda are. If I call him up and ask him a question he is very nice to answer any of them. I'm due for a stop some time or another so I'm sure I'll have one in the future. I only really coyote hunt and in my state you don't need a license for that, but I'm sure sooner or later I'll be asked what I'm doing. I think the problem is that we only have one warden for a very large area, so he doesn't have time to stop everyone. Still if he stopped me I think we'd have a rather friendly chat.
_________________________
223yoter

Top
#2556246 - 10/14/13 12:04 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
TxPigKiller Offline
Die Hard Member

Registered: 09/15/13
Posts: 825
Loc: Throckmorton County, TX
Most of mine have been positive here in WY, nothing more than the usual. license check, etc.
I grew up in TX and had all but one good experience. I was home on leave from the Marines, dove hunting with my dad, a Judge. On my leave papers it states my home unit as the "Fleet Antiterrorism Security Teams" I had just returned from Somalia being one of the 50 Marines left to guard the embassy. The GW check licenses, shotguns for plugs and ask for my hunters safety card. The card was extremely faded, my number was 0012, the 12th student in the STATE! He said the document was NOT acceptable and wrote me up.
I took the ticket straight to the courthouse in Shackleford County and ask the Clerk for a speedy hearing due to my leve was up in less than 2 days. She heard my tale, and went to see his Honor. The judge stepped out ask me the story, I explained what happened and my status within the Marines.
Man, you shoulda heard that judge on that telephone! That GW came sliding up to the courthouse about 80mph! That judge laid into him with volume and verbage that woulda made A drill instructor blush. When the dust settled, the ticket was ripped to shreds, stuffed in the GWs shirt pocket, and said GW sprinting for his life from the office. Judge was apoligizing and took me to lunch, man he was so ashamed that the FORMER GW had ticket a combat vet for a faded hunters card. From what I heard later the GW transferred to some "Gardenspot."
But in 35 years afield, my only bad experience.
_________________________
Warning, no filter between brain and mouth!

After 8 years in the infantry, fighting for your right to burn the flag, I have only one thing for you before you light it up. Wrap yourself in it first!!!

Top
#2557009 - 10/15/13 08:14 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
Rimrock1 Offline
Seasoned Member

Registered: 07/10/11
Posts: 142
Loc: California
In over 60 years of hunting I have never had a negative contact by a GW. My last contact was last week. I was using a motorcycle to get around on ranch property. Rifle scabbard attached and rifle in place. At dark, just as I returned to my camper a GW pulled up. He never got out of his truck. Never asked to check my rifle or license. We had about a 20 minute visit about a lot of things that are haywire with California laws. He said that he has 25 years in and is about ready to retire. He is very disturbed about the "new blood" GWs and the indoctrination they are receiving.

As he left we exchanged phone numbers.

Top
#2557061 - 10/15/13 09:56 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
crittergitter33 Offline
New Member

Registered: 02/26/12
Posts: 14
Loc: sw colorado
For checked by a warden for the very first time yesterday. I had shot a bull elk Sunday evening and taken it down to hang up in the cooler, and when I went back Monday to break down camp he was waiting along the road where we go in to hunt. Seemed like a pleasant guy. Not too chatty. Told him about the bull I shot. he just asked to take a look at my liscense and had me open the bolt of my rifle to make sure there wasn't a shell in it since it was laying across my front seat. Then he said congrats on the kill and was on his way.

Top
#2557064 - 10/15/13 10:02 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: Rimrock1]
fw707 Offline
Retired Moderator

Registered: 03/18/09
Posts: 9466
Loc: Roadside watermelon stand
Originally Posted By: Rimrock1
He is very disturbed about the "new blood" GWs and the indoctrination they are receiving.


I think lot of folks are disturbed about that.
_________________________
“better the hard truth, I say, than the comforting fantasy.”

Carl Sagan

Top
#2559741 - 10/21/13 09:25 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
borrowed time Offline
Seasoned Member

Registered: 10/12/11
Posts: 191
Loc: Colorado
Had a really positive contact with a game officer in the mountains this weekend.

I was "guiding" my 16 yo son on his second deer hunt, last year we were out 3 days but were unable to fill the tag.

Saturday we were up the mountain and i saw something up on a ridge behind a stand of aspen. told my son to watch towards the end of the trees. deer popped out and was slightly quartered away from us with his head turned just enough that his ears hid the little 4 point (combined) antlers. I would have sworn it was a doe, so i gave the go-ahead to shoot.

Upon aproach i saw that there was indeed two, two piont antlers; my son had an antlerless tag. I knew we screwed up and as soon as it was dressed out I called the local Division of Wildlife office and left a message about what happened.

we arranged to meet up with an officer back at camp. When we met I explained exactly what happened and that I understand there would be consiquences.

he proccessed our situation and our licenses and really earned my gratitude and respect. he understood by looking at the antlers and ears and by our honesty that it was an unforunate mistake. He didnt ticket us and allowed us to keep the deer but only required that we turn over the antlers.

He said that not many folks report mistakes like that and appreciated our honesty and thats the main reason he was lenient. We have had several contacts with this officer in the past and it has always been a positive experiance, and this was no exception. He also made it a great "teachable moment" for my son. This officer is a bright and shining example of proffessionalism and good will towards hunters and fishermen/women. because of this, if i ever see him in the field and in need of assistance, I would walk right into [beeep] to help him out. I will be writing a thank you letter to him and his superiors.


Edited by borrowed time (10/21/13 09:27 PM)

Top
#2559813 - 10/21/13 11:29 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
XM110 Offline
Die Hard Member

Registered: 12/23/08
Posts: 540
Loc: Hesperus, CO
Seems like there was a batch or animal right advocate Wardens in our area(corner of the state) that were willing to even tell you that they'd try to find anything at all to write a ticket for, and especially for someone who harvested a bear or lion and attempt to nail someone to ensure they'd never want to shoot another bear/lion. But that was a few yrs back. The one in particular,.... not sure if I'd get in trouble for putting her name on blast here online but she was a rude dude if you know what I mean. She ended up getting ran off do to complaints piling up and her joints efforts with a tree hugger group coming out. Haven't had any run-ins with any since all that was going on and the entire community wanted nothing to do with Game and Fish. Hope they've change their ways a tad........O well if not.


Edited by XM110 (10/21/13 11:30 PM)

Top
#2561989 - 10/26/13 03:48 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
masshunter Offline
Die Hard Member II

Registered: 12/10/08
Posts: 1280
Loc: western mass
I've been checked in Maine, NH, Vt, Co, Ontario, and Mass,
all good and polite no attitude. I dot my I's & cross my T's and smile a lot. I've heard a lot of BS stories, and know of two write-ups that should have been warnings. We are all human, and everybody has bad days.

Top
#2566083 - 11/03/13 05:47 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
Huntinjim Offline
Seasoned Member

Registered: 12/16/06
Posts: 463
Loc: Oklahoma
Got checked last night. Party of 2 adults and 2 youth. Warden was very friendly and when I told him I was carrying concealed he just said he would be doing the same on public land and carried on. It was a good experience and I was glad to see a warden in the woods on a Saturday night.
_________________________
Please join the NRA, they are the strongest voice supporting your gun rights.

Top
#2566372 - 11/04/13 08:13 AM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
Crimson Raptor Offline
Die Hard Member II

Registered: 03/26/11
Posts: 1949
Loc: Florida
So far, so good on Florida WMAs the last 6 years hunting here.

Most of the FWC officers have been polite and about their business with little more than a license check and a "good luck".

Only one was less than friendly, but this was on an area where two cows (!!!) had been shot and one deer poached in the previous couple of days. I think 6 arrests were made that season at this one WMA, so the officers were a little tight that week.

There are a couple that reside near the public land areas I frequent and we are on a first name basis now.

I've found that being patient, polite, and friendly usually gets you reciprocation from law enforcement, especially from the country folk that populate our FWC and seem to be reading from the same sheet of music.
_________________________
Raptor

"Intelligent people are often drawn to dumb ideas because the dumb ideas speak to their hearts, rather than to their heads." - Unknown

Don't make me break out my inner Chupa.

Top
#2567032 - 11/05/13 03:13 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: Crimson Raptor]
Fiddler Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 02/28/08
Posts: 37
Loc: Florida
Generally good. I always possess the right licences, permits, tags, etc., and play by the rules. Had a funny experience about thirty years ago north of Pensacola. Met a game warden while walking down a dirt road in a WMA. After a license check, he offered me a ride back to my truck. Along the way, I mentioned I was a Country musician and which nightclub I played at in Pensacola.
The next weekend, there he was, at a table with about a dozen other guys and gals. Every one of them were Florida Wildlife Officers! He called me over to his table, introduced me to his colleagues, and proceeded to buy me shot after shot all night long! Whatta night!
Now, for my less "happy" game warden story.
One week before archery season in 1988, I was scouting a place that was opening to hunting for the very first time, Arbuckle WMA. I'd never been there, so at sunrise, I parked my truck outside the locked gate, hoisted a bicycle over the gate, and proceeded to roam all over the place.
After a few miles the sugar sand in the trails became too soft for a bike, so I parked it and continued on foot, looking for sign, and marking likely Opening Day stand locations with "Brite Eyes" and orange surveyor's tape.
I had been doing this for several hours when I heard a vehicle coming up behind me. Off in the distance I saw a Game Warden's jeep with one officer sitting on the hood, looking at my footprints in the sand, while the other one drove.
I waited on the trail for them to catch up with me. Naturally, they wanted to know what I was doing. They had been following my trail from the where I'd parked my truck.
I told them I was scouting. I was in a pretty good mood and had all the proper paperwork.
One of them kept looking at the daypack I was carrying. Then he asked to look inside, because he said he had heard someone shooting a .22 pistol in the area where he found me.
I handed it over with a smile. Nothing in there but lunch, soda pop, surveyor's tape, "Brite Eyes", binoculars, etc.
I kept smiling, even though I knew he had lied through his teeth. I had been walking those trails for hours and hadn't heard a single gunshot all morning. In fact, those two game wardens were the first sign of human life I'd seen.
He was just on a "fishing expedition", hoping to get lucky and find a pistol in my daypack.
That lie really shook my faith in law enforcement people. What else do they lie about?


Edited by Fiddler (11/05/13 03:15 PM)

Top
#2616540 - 01/19/14 03:09 AM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
bthomasb1 Offline
Predator Master

Registered: 12/16/12
Posts: 55
Loc: PA
Hmm,that makes me think,I have never had a game warden stop me and check me,a fish warden once and he was cool,but no game wardens.I do know 3 game wardens 1 is a ok guy he is by the book and tough but he is just doing his job and doing a good job of it,the other 2 are bigger criminals than the people they arrest,I went to school with one and his family shoots more deer with a light than anyone else I know.


Edited by bthomasb1 (01/19/14 03:10 AM)

Top
#2617081 - 01/19/14 10:55 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
coyotenut Offline
Seasoned Member

Registered: 01/01/12
Posts: 275
Loc: Central SD
I have always had very positive experiences with the guys in our areas. In fact, I have been hunting with most of them at different times, one even on an out of state deer hunt.
_________________________
A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity.
An optomist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.
Winston Churchill

Free will without Morality equals destruction.

Top
#2618011 - 01/21/14 12:15 AM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
Brownie Offline
Die Hard Member III

Registered: 10/03/09
Posts: 2225
Loc: Walla Walla, Washington, U,S,A
There's one around here who has his head up his arse and his badge inflated his.ego so much he can no longer remove his head from there. One year he about ran me into the ditch on a narrow road just to bust my balls about my tag and license. He didn't bother getting out. I pulled off to give him room to get by and he kept moving closer till I was almost in the ditch. He then asked fir my info through the window and had me show him my rifle to make sure it was unloaded. Another time we were fishing under an overpass and I had brought my rifle in case we saw a coyote and had it on my back unloaded. He pulled up to the truck which was left unlocked and came asking for my buddy by name. Said he looked through the truck and found his registration and that's how he knew his name. He then asked why I had a rifle and why I hadn't left it in the truck. My answer was there's too many Aholes like yourself who don't or can't stay out of people's trucks and the last thing I need is my 800 bucks disappearing. He puffed up and after checking licenses he left poutting because he found no violations and we didn't put up with his crap.


Edited by Brownie (01/21/14 12:16 AM)
_________________________
HELP PRESERVE THE WOLF, TAKE ONE TO A TAXEDERMIST!!


Top
#2632675 - 02/08/14 05:12 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
Crappie eater Offline
New Member

Registered: 02/05/14
Posts: 17
Loc: Ks
I get checked at least twice a year, no issues. Can be a pain if you need to leave and have to hang around to get checked.

Top
#2640854 - 02/19/14 03:59 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
bonecollector777 Offline
Seasoned Member

Registered: 10/09/12
Posts: 136
Loc: AZ
Game wardens are a bunch or wannabes that were picked on in school. They want more than anything to write you a ticket and think they have all the power in the world because they have a badge. Haven't met one yet that doesn't automatically think you broke the law and starts trying to get you. Thank goodness they have never been able to scrounge up anything against me but they dang sure have tried.

Top
#2642172 - 02/21/14 11:58 AM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: bonecollector777]
Fursniper Offline
Retired PM Staff

Registered: 09/14/09
Posts: 1967
Loc: AZ
Originally Posted By: bonecollector777
Game wardens are a bunch or wannabes that were picked on in school. They want more than anything to write you a ticket and think they have all the power in the world because they have a badge. Haven't met one yet that doesn't automatically think you broke the law and starts trying to get you. Thank goodness they have never been able to scrounge up anything against me but they dang sure have tried.


One of the purposes of the game warden forum was to provide a friendly environment for members to interact with game wardens to promote a better understanding and spirit of cooperation. Where you are from in AZ, all of the game wardens are wildlife biologist that have at least a bachelor of science degree. I doubt they spent thousands out of their pocket to get a college degree just to write misdemeanor tickets. Law enforcement is a fraction of what they do since they also work as biologists to manage the wildlife populations in their assigned areas. They are a wealth of knowledge if you ask them about something. I'm guessing you just look suspicious to them for some reason.

_________________________
Introducing a new person to hunting and watching them be successful is more rewarding than being successful yourself.

Make time to create a conservationist.

Top
#2642180 - 02/21/14 12:06 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: Fursniper]
Tbone-AZ Offline
PM senior

Registered: 10/04/12
Posts: 6884
Loc: AZ, Phoenix
Originally Posted By: Fursniper
Originally Posted By: bonecollector777
Game wardens are a bunch or wannabes that were picked on in school. They want more than anything to write you a ticket and think they have all the power in the world because they have a badge. Haven't met one yet that doesn't automatically think you broke the law and starts trying to get you. Thank goodness they have never been able to scrounge up anything against me but they dang sure have tried.


One of the purposes of the game warden forum was to provide a friendly environment for members to interact with game wardens to promote a better understanding and spirit of cooperation. Where you are from in AZ, all of the game wardens are wildlife biologist that have at least a bachelor of science degree. I doubt they spent thousands out of their pocket to get a college degree just to write misdemeanor tickets. Law enforcement is a fraction of what they do since they also work as biologists to manage the wildlife populations in their assigned areas. They are a wealth of knowledge if you ask them about something. I'm guessing you just look suspicious to them for some reason.



I have seen both in AZ.. out away from phoenix, they have been, for the most part great.. Friendly, supportive, and helpful. The only time i didn't like it was when they were running a surprise road block where they would pull out and box you in to check your info during an elk hunt in unit 1. I didn't like that because they have no right to ask for hunting lic, or search your vehicle or inspect my vehicle, other than drivers lic, ins., and vehicle reg, if there is no evidence of hunting. If I don't have an animal or they see me hunting, They are being pushy. Most have never done anything like that and are great.

The ones around PHX on the lakes are another matter. I will repectfully agree with BC777 on that one with that group
_________________________
Have fun being an [beeep].. I hope it's all you hoped for.

Top
#2647118 - 02/28/14 12:47 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
Billy539 Offline
Seasoned Member

Registered: 01/10/13
Posts: 297
Loc: WI
In my experience here in WI most are pretty decent. I have run into a few power hungry knuckle heads though. Unfortunately the best one I have ever know recently left the position in our area. He was all ways willing to listen to hunters/fishermen about concerns and on more then one occasion I saw him give people the benefit of the doubt it's too bad he left.

Top
#2675307 - 04/21/14 02:41 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
BlindTyldak Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 04/02/14
Posts: 38
Loc: South Dakota
The ones I've met here in northeast SD are great. Only had one problem . . . called the office one time to verify the restrictions on hunting in a state-owned campground over the winter for small game, and the conservation officer told me over the phone that I could hunt with my .22 LR there as long as it was not pheasant or camping season. A couple of weeks later I was hunting in a WIA and one of the wardens stopped me (turns out they were looking for some deer poachers) and he was exceptionally nice. Showed my license and we talked about rabbit hunting for a bit and he gave me some areas to check, and we discussed the campground I had called about; the guy I had talked to over the phone had given me the wrong info and it was shotgun only. I offered to bring in the rabbits I had shot there to hand over to Sportsmen Against Hunger and he told me to keep them. Didn't get a ticket or warning so it all ended well.

I did end up seeing the poachers later that day, and it turned out they had taken several deer across the county out of season. Called them in and they were busted. A few weeks after that I called in some dumped Canadas shot during light goose, and now the wardens stop to chat every time they see my vehicle out in the WIA's and I've got their cell numbers. The guys out here are ultra-professional and super supportive of hunters who follow the rules, do their job, and do it very well.

Top
#2676548 - 04/24/14 02:56 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
jon math Offline
New Member

Registered: 03/13/14
Posts: 7
Loc: New England
They have a hard job. Let’s face it 100 percent of the hunters they encounter are armed, and frequently in pretty secluded places. I have met plenty fishing not as many while hunting. They all acted professionally, sadly some a lot more professional than others. That is as polite as I can say it.

Top
#2676677 - 04/24/14 10:20 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: jon math]
GC Offline
PM Junkie

Registered: 04/21/01
Posts: 17046
Loc: Missouri
Originally Posted By: jon math
They have a hard job. Let’s face it 100 percent of the hunters they encounter are armed, and frequently in pretty secluded places.


That seems to mean nothing in reality. Very few game wardens are involved in an on the job shooting encounter.
_________________________
Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.

Top
#2676698 - 04/24/14 11:09 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: GC]
fw707 Offline
Retired Moderator

Registered: 03/18/09
Posts: 9466
Loc: Roadside watermelon stand
Originally Posted By: GC
Originally Posted By: jon math
They have a hard job. Let’s face it 100 percent of the hunters they encounter are armed, and frequently in pretty secluded places.


That seems to mean nothing in reality. Very few game wardens are involved in an on the job shooting encounter.



GC,
maybe it means nothing to you "in reality", but it means a lot to the ones who are involved.
My agency lost 3 officers to shooting incidents while I was working.
One died, and the other 2 were permanently disabled.

Thank you for your opinion. thumbup1
_________________________
“better the hard truth, I say, than the comforting fantasy.”

Carl Sagan

Top
#2676752 - 04/25/14 07:58 AM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
GC Offline
PM Junkie

Registered: 04/21/01
Posts: 17046
Loc: Missouri
Definitely no disrespect intended, however the number of game wardens involved in on the job shootings and/or killed in the line of duty is extremely low compared to municipal police, county deputy sheriff's, state troopers or certain federal law enforcement officers like DEA, US Marshal's, Border Patrol, ect. Game wardens always throw out the old "everybody we meet is armed and we are seven times more likely to be killed..." The facts just don't bear that out, it just doesn't happen with the same frequency that it does to other law enforcement officers. The vast majority of those game warden contacts are honest law abiding sportsmen and women engaging in legal activities. In the time frame you worked for your agency three wardens were involved in a shooting, so how many muni cops, deputies and troopers in your state were involved with on the job shootings in that same time period? The numbers just don't add up the same. Please don't misunderstand or misconstrue my post, just stating facts for the discussion. I am sorry for your departments loss.
_________________________
Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.

Top
#2685262 - 05/21/14 10:20 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
dan158 Offline
Die Hard Member II

Registered: 03/31/14
Posts: 1308
Loc: PA
Here in Pennsylvania, 99% are ego tripping @holes who don't know the game laws. That sums up my encounter with them.

Top
#2685294 - 05/22/14 12:16 AM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
Theshedhunter Offline
Die Hard Member II

Registered: 04/22/14
Posts: 1180
Loc: MT
Never seen one except driving down the highway. Never been checked or encountered a warden in the field. There used to be check stations you were supposed to stop at if you were hunting, successful or not, but they closed them when FWP ran out of money when out of state elk hunters quit coming here.

Top
#2691980 - 06/14/14 06:37 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
Hooked Offline
Die Hard Member with a vengeance

Registered: 01/01/08
Posts: 4186
Loc: Nebraska,USA
Very good guys around my area. One in my County also did my CC training course and to the County South of me stopped just to visit, see if we were having any luck. Did not ask for squat, but did offer some advice on Predator Hunting.
_________________________
LR 308, because when SHTF, all those %&*$@3 buying up and hoarding all the 22LR won`t stand a chance...lol

Top
#2693182 - 06/19/14 02:36 AM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
catfarmer Offline
New Member

Registered: 06/18/14
Posts: 10
Loc: Canada
A number of years ago a couple of friends came out to the farm every Saturday and we would go shoot ground squires every week a game warden came out to see us we had permission to hunt on the land we were on and some one next door called in about us every week. Any how the warden was very nice and after about four weeks he laughed and said that he would see us next week he never said but we all new who was calling him. The warden and the three of us all were friends by the end of the summer. Never did know what the complainers problem was.

Top
#2696735 - 07/01/14 12:09 AM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
C.Jay Offline
Die Hard Member II

Registered: 12/23/10
Posts: 1173
Loc: Montana
Our Bunny cops are great guys here in Sweetgrass county, they are VERY constitutionally minded,
_________________________
Originally Posted By: James Madison
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.


Top
#2706089 - 08/02/14 12:39 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
DAB Offline
Die Hard Member II

Registered: 05/10/09
Posts: 1697
Loc: Sandy Oregon
Been hunting and fishing for 5 decades now and have had many,many contacts with the Game LEO's here in Oregon. I have never had a bad contact experience with any of them.

I do not give them any attitude so never receive none back.
Have had some ask me some leading questions kinda like they are trying to trip me up but since I have nothing to hide or lie about they finally quit asking those type of questions and everything goes smooth.

I am of the opinion that most people but not all that get an attitude from a GW or LEO first gives one to the officer or just has a problem with anyone in authority.

Top
#2722467 - 09/22/14 11:05 AM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
JTB Offline
Seasoned Member

Registered: 02/02/06
Posts: 376
Loc: WV
Most in my area are just normal guys doing their job, but several are some of the biggest poachers in the state. You know what John Dalber-Acton said, "Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely".

Top
#2722474 - 09/22/14 11:28 AM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: JTB]
Redfrog Offline
Chairman of the Board

Registered: 12/12/01
Posts: 18037
Loc: Palliser Triangle, Alberta
Originally Posted By: JTB
Most in my area are just normal guys doing their job, but several are some of the biggest poachers in the state. You know what John Dalber-Acton said, "Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely".


WOW! that's crazy. What happened when you turned them in???

In nearly 60 years of hunting, I never met any that were poachers. I have met some that turned into true friends and I ony remember two who should be in a different line of work. Most are helpful and doing a thankless job. I'm glad they are out there.


Edited by Redfrog (09/22/14 11:30 AM)

Top
#2722476 - 09/22/14 11:43 AM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: Redfrog]
fw707 Offline
Retired Moderator

Registered: 03/18/09
Posts: 9466
Loc: Roadside watermelon stand
Originally Posted By: Redfrog


WOW! that's crazy. What happened when you turned them in???


Yep, I'd like to hear some details too.
_________________________
“better the hard truth, I say, than the comforting fantasy.”

Carl Sagan

Top
#2722521 - 09/22/14 02:20 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
Tbone-AZ Offline
PM senior

Registered: 10/04/12
Posts: 6884
Loc: AZ, Phoenix
We got one down here that is a real lazy piece of work and is trying to pick a fight with the base.

He wants the base that has it's own program. They have a game biologist and they work out the tag numbers. There are a few tags that can go to anyone, but you have to be able to pass a background check. The majority of the tags go to active duty, retired and they have a special hunt for Disabled guys. (deer, turkey, elk)
The new guys wants the base to open it to anyone and no set asides for military. SO they increase the number of tags a little for non-military, and as always, if there are any left over tags after the draw its a first come first serve tag to anyone. They have left over bull, and cow rifle tags and usually a number of left over archery tags.

That is going over like a fart in church.

Now the base is forcing everyone no matter age, to have a hunter saftey (fine) and then come in for a saftey brief where you turn in a stack of paperwork.

But because of the hassles they are saying that now they have to hire someone and they have to charge the cost of that employee to the hunters, so next year, instead of a $30 fee for hunting on the base it could be $100-150 for the fee, above what the cost tag ($135) It won't be long before it's just cheeper to go buy a ranchers cow and shoot that.
_________________________
Have fun being an [beeep].. I hope it's all you hoped for.

Top
#2722732 - 09/23/14 02:11 AM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
Infidel 762 Offline
Moderator

Registered: 04/04/14
Posts: 6988
Loc: Okie
Classified...


Edited by Infidel 762 (12/03/14 10:23 PM)

Top
#2722789 - 09/23/14 10:33 AM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: Tbone-AZ]
Redfrog Offline
Chairman of the Board

Registered: 12/12/01
Posts: 18037
Loc: Palliser Triangle, Alberta
Originally Posted By: Tbone-AZ
We got one down here that is a real lazy piece of work and is trying to pick a fight with the base.

He wants the base that has it's own program. They have a game biologist and they work out the tag numbers. There are a few tags that can go to anyone, but you have to be able to pass a background check. The majority of the tags go to active duty, retired and they have a special hunt for Disabled guys. (deer, turkey, elk)
The new guys wants the base to open it to anyone and no set asides for military. SO they increase the number of tags a little for non-military, and as always, if there are any left over tags after the draw its a first come first serve tag to anyone. They have left over bull, and cow rifle tags and usually a number of left over archery tags.

That is going over like a fart in church.

Now the base is forcing everyone no matter age, to have a hunter saftey (fine) and then come in for a saftey brief where you turn in a stack of paperwork.

But because of the hassles they are saying that now they have to hire someone and they have to charge the cost of that employee to the hunters, so next year, instead of a $30 fee for hunting on the base it could be $100-150 for the fee, above what the cost tag ($135) It won't be long before it's just cheeper to go buy a ranchers cow and shoot that.



Why do you say he's lazy?

We have a military base here in Alberta that allows hunting on a draw system. Every year it is harder to draw a tag as more and more hunters apply. Some think it is easier to be successful in the draw than spend the year knocking on doors for permission. Because of the movement restrictions, a hunter doesn't have huge areas to scout.
There is an orientation session daily where the rules are explained and areas pointed out for access etc. And yet there are lazy hunters who go to the trouble of entering the draw, winning a tag, showing up for the information briefing and then can't be bothered to follow the rules.
The draw rules change every year here as far as number of tags available, areas that are open etc. Some changes make hunters happy and the same changes torque others.You can't please everyone. F/W operates on a priority system here. All unsuccessful applicants get one priority point for the next draw. The points accumulate year to year.Some hunters simply buy the draw application and then 999 the selection which means they don't want a tag this year, just a priority point. Some guys have 10 or 12 points and have simply paid for the point each year.In some cases like goats or sheep, because of the popularity of the draw, a person needs to live to be 437 years old to get one of the tags. We have this system because of the cry babaies who whine 'I never get a draw, but my brother gets his.WAAAAAA!" If it's a draw, then it should be random.Everyone has the same chance.

As far as increasing the fees, I have no problem with that. Let the oes who want to hunt there pay for admin costs. Why add those costs to everyone's license fees. That is what they will do to cover the cost.

We have hunters who apply for a hunt who have never taken one step in an area up for draws. They get the draw and then are on the internet hunt boards asking which landowner or area to go to for a hunt.
It's often the game wardens who help out, with contacts and info on game movements.

Top
#2722796 - 09/23/14 11:01 AM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: fw707]
JTB Offline
Seasoned Member

Registered: 02/02/06
Posts: 376
Loc: WV
Originally Posted By: fw707
Originally Posted By: Redfrog


WOW! that's crazy. What happened when you turned them in???


Yep, I'd like to hear some details too.


Reporting someone and being able to be taken serious and prove it are two different things. I'm sure every locality has police on the take, abuses of power, etc.

I have a relative that's a policeman I don't think he's out directly stealing, but I know he and his wife drive any speed they want ticket free, he eats free just about everywhere in town, etc. It's all the buddy system.

Top
#2722804 - 09/23/14 11:28 AM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: JTB]
Redfrog Offline
Chairman of the Board

Registered: 12/12/01
Posts: 18037
Loc: Palliser Triangle, Alberta
Originally Posted By: JTB
Originally Posted By: fw707
Originally Posted By: Redfrog


WOW! that's crazy. What happened when you turned them in???


Yep, I'd like to hear some details too.



Reporting someone and being able to be taken serious and prove it are two different things. I'm sure every locality has police on the take, abuses of power, etc.



I agree. It's the same thing when you are accused. In order to be taken seriously, there has to be proof.

So you had a bad experience when you filed a complaint?

Do you have any proof that the Game wardens are poaching, or your relative drives whatever speed he wants?

Top
#2723127 - 09/24/14 09:58 AM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: Redfrog]
JTB Offline
Seasoned Member

Registered: 02/02/06
Posts: 376
Loc: WV
Originally Posted By: Redfrog
Originally Posted By: JTB
Originally Posted By: fw707
Originally Posted By: Redfrog


WOW! that's crazy. What happened when you turned them in???


Yep, I'd like to hear some details too.



Reporting someone and being able to be taken serious and prove it are two different things. I'm sure every locality has police on the take, abuses of power, etc.



I agree. It's the same thing when you are accused. In order to be taken seriously, there has to be proof.

So you had a bad experience when you filed a complaint?

Do you have any proof that the Game wardens are poaching, or your relative drives whatever speed he wants?


I never filed any complaint, nor would I get involved the fallout from doing so, proof or not. I've known guys who hunt bear over bait (illegal in our state) with game wardens, spot light with game wardens, etc.

As far as the relative driving, I've been in the car with him. I've seen him pulled over, tell them who he is, then drive off. Anyone who has LEO as friends or family can normally attest they pretty much get away with whatever they want. There are bad eggs in law enforcement in every city and state.

Top
#2723166 - 09/24/14 12:10 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: Redfrog]
Tbone-AZ Offline
PM senior

Registered: 10/04/12
Posts: 6884
Loc: AZ, Phoenix
[quote=Redfrog


Why do you say he's lazy?

We have a military base here in Alberta that allows hunting on a draw system. [/quote]

He is lazy since he won't show up for the meeting and just dictates what he wants..
Its a touchy situation and rather than just close it out, the base is going to make it expensive and once the numbers get low enough, or this guy gets them mad enought they will just say no, and then it's a no-go case and it's going to be closed out.
There are cry babies every where and it sure seems like there are a bunch of them in big game hunting. We have the same type of draw system here too. This base is small and only 12 sq miles (a tiny section of the very productive area where most of it is open to public) and the opens, closures, and what ever else the base does makes it challenging in it's own regaurds.
Civilians crying they can't apply for the set asside tags on the base where they store Ammunition is a case of the grass is greener on the other side of the fence deal.
This warden wants to force the base to allow open access, and the base would rather close it all together than do that.
I like hunting there, because you don't have to deal with with crazy foot race of trying to tag your animal before someone else does wild behavior I hear all the time out here during the rest of the hunts. Most of these guys are very nice and when a shot goes off usually a couple of guy show up, roll up their sleves and give you a hand.
I just hate to see that messed up.
_________________________
Have fun being an [beeep].. I hope it's all you hoped for.

Top
#2723542 - 09/25/14 02:19 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
Fursniper Offline
Retired PM Staff

Registered: 09/14/09
Posts: 1967
Loc: AZ
Originally Posted By: Tbone-AZ
This warden wants to force the base to allow open access, and the base would rather close it all together than do that.

I think you were referring to Camp Navajo in Unit 6B since that would be the small military base with elk on it. The requirements that Camp Navajo has for hunter access is extensive. Here is a link for what Camp Navajo requires.

http://www.azguard.gov/CampNavajo.htm

All of these requirements are established by the base, not by the AGFD.

According to requirement 2, the base is open to hunting by nonmilitary people with several restrictions.

The state laws established by the AGFD Commission for taking wildlife also apply inside military bases. The Camp Navajo access requirements conflict with state laws for taking wildlife. For example, requirement 7 says that predator hunting and small game hunting is not allowed on the base. Since the base is open to hunting by military personnel and others, why not allow opportunities to take small game and predators? Why prevent hunters from taking small game and predators during their big game hunt? Personally, I think this restriction is an over reach by the base.

Closing the base to military people and others for taking predators and small game has nothing to do with controlling access. The purpose for this appears more in line with an anti hunting agenda.

Look at the indecisive restrictions the base commander has put on firearms as a condition for access in requirement 9. If there was a security issue, the base can be closed to entry at any time. Designating certain areas as archery only is fine, but it appears that hunters are being purposely setup to break the base regulations when the base commander does not know what weapon types can be used before the hunting season starts and can change weapon types without notice.

You should support the game warden. They are trying to get military folks to have the same opportunities for hunting wildlife on the base as civilians have off the base. It is not fair for military people to receive less. I think the AGFD has made good progress in getting more hunting opportunities at Camp Navajo, but there is still more that needs to be done to resolve all the conflicts.


Edited by Fursniper (09/29/14 10:57 AM)
_________________________
Introducing a new person to hunting and watching them be successful is more rewarding than being successful yourself.

Make time to create a conservationist.

Top
#2723798 - 09/26/14 08:35 AM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
Bullsprings Offline
Seasoned Member

Registered: 01/20/14
Posts: 143
Loc: CA
I have heard the horror stories. But, I have only experienced being treated good by guys just doing their jobs.

Top
#2727204 - 10/05/14 03:28 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: bonecollector777]
woodguru Offline
Die Hard Member III

Registered: 10/30/12
Posts: 3361
Loc: California
Originally Posted By: bonecollector777
Game wardens are a bunch or wannabes that were picked on in school. They want more than anything to write you a ticket and think they have all the power in the world because they have a badge. Haven't met one yet that doesn't automatically think you broke the law and starts trying to get you. Thank goodness they have never been able to scrounge up anything against me but they dang sure have tried.


Wardens are just people who are likely to be a bit better educated about wildlife and conservation than most, from their perspective they are aligned against the worst types of poachers and dirt bags that don't just poach an occasional animal to eat, but take numbers that are truly hard on populations.

I've never met one yet that isn't friendly and talkative with friendly people who aren't doing anything wrong. There is a certain type of person who hates authority and finds it very hard to even be civil with those wearing uniforms in positions of authority.

Chances are those who think wardens are dirt bags are probably dirt bags themselves. I've had wardens let me off when they had me cold on an infraction because I have a sense of humor and no attitude toward them.
_________________________
A continual circulation of lies among those who are not much in the way of hearing them contradicted, will in time pass for their truth; the crime lies not in the believer but the inventor.
Thomas Paine

Ignorance is not okay

Top
#2727205 - 10/05/14 03:30 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: Bullsprings]
woodguru Offline
Die Hard Member III

Registered: 10/30/12
Posts: 3361
Loc: California
Originally Posted By: Bullsprings
I have heard the horror stories. But, I have only experienced being treated good by guys just doing their jobs.


There ya go, has to do with the attitude. lol
_________________________
A continual circulation of lies among those who are not much in the way of hearing them contradicted, will in time pass for their truth; the crime lies not in the believer but the inventor.
Thomas Paine

Ignorance is not okay

Top
#2727212 - 10/05/14 03:58 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: fw707]
woodguru Offline
Die Hard Member III

Registered: 10/30/12
Posts: 3361
Loc: California
Originally Posted By: fw707
Originally Posted By: GC
Originally Posted By: jon math
They have a hard job. Let’s face it 100 percent of the hunters they encounter are armed, and frequently in pretty secluded places.


That seems to mean nothing in reality. Very few game wardens are involved in an on the job shooting encounter.



GC,
maybe it means nothing to you "in reality", but it means a lot to the ones who are involved.
My agency lost 3 officers to shooting incidents while I was working.
One died, and the other 2 were permanently disabled.

Thank you for your opinion. thumbup1


Considering numbers in terms of how many police officers and sheriffs there are in the country, and how many fish and game officers my guess is that the "few" incidents they have equates to a high incident per 1000 number.

They are looking for poachers, poachers have no regard for the law, hence may likely be criminals or felons that are not supposed to even have guns, many criminals would rather shoot a warden than go back to jail.

Those wardens out at night looking for poachers need to be at least as hard nosed and tough as your average cop or they will make a fatal mistake sooner or later. That aspect of the job is not for light weights.

You don't get passed over for the police academy and decide you will be a warden.
_________________________
A continual circulation of lies among those who are not much in the way of hearing them contradicted, will in time pass for their truth; the crime lies not in the believer but the inventor.
Thomas Paine

Ignorance is not okay

Top
#2731243 - 10/15/14 10:35 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
kc_hhsl Offline
Seasoned Member

Registered: 01/02/09
Posts: 263
Loc: NE Colorado
Have only been stopped by them 5 or 6 times. Always easy to talk to and they were direct and to the point. Once they were done doing their duty they left us alone.

Unfortunately in KS you don't see them much - not enough of them around. Need more of them.
_________________________
If you died today are you prepared for where you will be tomorrow?
NRA Life Member

Top
#2737637 - 11/01/14 01:45 AM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
FairChase93 Offline
Die Hard Member II

Registered: 01/07/14
Posts: 1306
Loc: Western South Dakota
Around here we have had many game wardens that were constantly causing problems and stirring the pot, flaunting authority they did not have and such. However in the last 5 years or so we have had 2 pretty dang good ones, respectful and courteous. Don't get me wrong they would definitely write you a ticket if you broke the law but the way they carried them selves and went about their business was just different.

The current game warden in our area (one of the two mentioned above) is just exactly what a game warden should be, respectful, courteous, and when the situation calls for it Authoritative. He actively participates in the community and is always looking for ways to get kids involved. He runs an excellent hunt safe course as well. He is one guy that covers a very large area and does it quite well. On top of all this he has spear headed some much need GF &P improvement projects.

I've ran into a lot of game wardens I had zero respect for but there are some good ones out there as well and we got one of them.
_________________________
"If his brains were black powder he couldn't blow his own nose"
-From Stephen King's The Shining

Top
#2759604 - 12/17/14 08:18 AM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
snowangel Offline
Predator Master

Registered: 04/13/14
Posts: 76
Loc: pa
In 30 years of hunting in pa i have never been stopped by a gw. The only time i was checked on it was by the local police on routine patrol and only because he also hunted groundhogs. The ones i have spoken to i have approached at county fairs or other functions where they were present and they all were polite and a pleasure to talk to.

Top
#2888167 - 11/27/15 02:47 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: GC]
woodguru Offline
Die Hard Member III

Registered: 10/30/12
Posts: 3361
Loc: California
Originally Posted By: GC
Originally Posted By: jon math
They have a hard job. Let’s face it 100 percent of the hunters they encounter are armed, and frequently in pretty secluded places.


That seems to mean nothing in reality. Very few game wardens are involved in an on the job shooting encounter.


And the ones that relax increase the odds of getting shot exponentially. Criminal felon types are the ones most likely to be out poaching, and even if they are hunting legally they may be willing to shoot a warden rather than face going to jail if they have warrants out on them.

I had a warden in a remote pot growing area tell me places to stay out of that he knew for a fact even he would get shot if he went there.

My brother in law called me an idiot for having a gun on me when we were riding dirt bikes in isolated areas. He asked this same warden we were talking to if he agreed with him about me being an idiot and he looked at him and told him I'd be an idiot not to have a gun out there.
_________________________
A continual circulation of lies among those who are not much in the way of hearing them contradicted, will in time pass for their truth; the crime lies not in the believer but the inventor.
Thomas Paine

Ignorance is not okay

Top
#2888184 - 11/27/15 03:24 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
woodguru Offline
Die Hard Member III

Registered: 10/30/12
Posts: 3361
Loc: California
Back in the 80's before the state started letting you get a two rod stamp I was fishing at the Nimbus dam, there was nobody else there so I rigged a steelhead rod with a night crawler and threw it out in a riffle, tightened the line and propped it in the cornet of the railing. I picked up an ultralight rod with a lure on it and cast it out, got a hit by a nice fat two pound trout on the first cast as it hit the water and was settling.

So I'm fighting this scrappy trout when my steelhead rod takes a slam, I grab it with my right hand and set the hook while trying to keep the line tight on the trout. These fish were both going ballistic, they kept crossing lines to where I had to keep twisting them around each other so the lines weren't crossed. I couldn't reel them in with one in each hand, so I decided I had to pick a fish and put the other rod down. So I lean the trout rod in the railing corner, and I get a beautiful 7 pound steelhead in, and I go back and get the trout in soon after.

So as I'm putting the trout on my stringer I hear someone clearing their throat from about 25 feet away, I look and it's a game warden, my response was to say "oh crap". He says "yeah, not cool". He said he'd been watching me with binoculars from the top of the dam, and that I could lose my fishing poles and gear. He's looking at the poles and my open tackle box and he comments that they are nice poles and asks what they set me back, I told him close to a grand. He told me that he could legally confiscate them and my tackle box, and my vehicle as well. I told him that as I was standing there trying to figure out what to do with two fish on without losing a $500 rod it occurred to me that it didn't make sense to try to catch a trout and a steelhead at the same time. He laughed and said that that was one of the funniest things he'd seen in a long time, me standing there trying to figure out what to do with these fish going crazy.

He told me to keep it to one rod, and that next season I was going to be able to buy a two rod stamp for an extra ten bucks or so. He said my gear was too nice to be losing it over something this stupid.

I'm pretty sure that had I been a jerk he'd have been one back.
_________________________
A continual circulation of lies among those who are not much in the way of hearing them contradicted, will in time pass for their truth; the crime lies not in the believer but the inventor.
Thomas Paine

Ignorance is not okay

Top
#2888190 - 11/27/15 03:46 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
Orneryolfart357 Offline
PM senior

Registered: 10/06/07
Posts: 9053
Loc: Nevada
Admitting being a poacher is the fastest way to getting help to find a cure.
_________________________




Top
#2893894 - 12/09/15 03:22 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: Orneryolfart357]
woodguru Offline
Die Hard Member III

Registered: 10/30/12
Posts: 3361
Loc: California
Originally Posted By: Orneryolfart357
Admitting being a poacher is the fastest way to getting help to find a cure.


I'm sure you've done worse things in your life than use two fishing rods oldfart, am I right?

Have you ever lived in the country, have you wanted meat in the freezer and it's standing in your backyard eating your roses? Ever seen a half dozen grays running around your backyard mid morning, and two hours later you are eating a squirrel for lunch? 80 turkeys out back and that night a big Tom finds his breasts stuffed with caramelized onions and brie being sauteed in Chardonnay and seasoning?

I haven't either. lol
_________________________
A continual circulation of lies among those who are not much in the way of hearing them contradicted, will in time pass for their truth; the crime lies not in the believer but the inventor.
Thomas Paine

Ignorance is not okay

Top
#2894068 - 12/09/15 09:33 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
Orneryolfart357 Offline
PM senior

Registered: 10/06/07
Posts: 9053
Loc: Nevada
For some reason I cannot remember cheating the State and other sportsman out of Game. You it seems are a little different.


Edited by Orneryolfart357 (12/09/15 09:34 PM)
_________________________




Top
#2894463 - 12/10/15 06:51 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: Orneryolfart357]
woodguru Offline
Die Hard Member III

Registered: 10/30/12
Posts: 3361
Loc: California
Originally Posted By: Orneryolfart357
For some reason I cannot remember cheating the State and other sportsman out of Game. You it seems are a little different.


Righteous to the end huh?

What can I say, I like eating game, and I refuse to hunt public lands during deer hunting seasons, I have personally known three people that were shot and killed while deer hunting, most likely intentionally. Also I'm sure sportsmen into trophies would never understand this, but I am not into "trophy" racks, they are too tough to eat and it amounts to killing the biggest and strongest of the gene pool.

I get unlimited depredation permits and can shoot as many deer as I want to. I have called for kills to be picked up and more often than not they don't have anyone available to do so, I have been told to go ahead and use them as coyote bait so they aren't being wasted. So whatever, I am not depriving hunters of their share of anything. More importantly I try to leave the ones with racks for hunters who care about that. That is not the case when one is tearing up one of my fruit trees.

The depredation permit rules state that I am not supposed to eat the deer so I interpret that to mean I can't put meat in the freezer, so I don't. Now some would see that as a waste not to be able to eat a deer that you can legally shoot.
_________________________
A continual circulation of lies among those who are not much in the way of hearing them contradicted, will in time pass for their truth; the crime lies not in the believer but the inventor.
Thomas Paine

Ignorance is not okay

Top
#2895022 - 12/11/15 07:27 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
hm1996 Offline
PM Junkie

Registered: 07/23/06
Posts: 17276
Loc: S. Texas
Have had a few encounters w/TP&W wardens over the years and all have been pleasant and businesslike. I always call the GW in the three counties in which I night hunt predators beforehand and these exchanges have always been pleasant, as well.

A farmer friend who has a grain elevator on his property had a bad experience with a federal game warden whom he had invited to hunt white wing doves (migratory fowl) on his property. The FGW cited him for "baiting" because of a pile of waste which resulted from cleaning out one of his grain elevators on the property. I thought that was out of line. Needless to say, that fellow was never invited back.

Regards,
hm
_________________________
If what's ahead scares you and what's behind hurts you, look up; He never fails you.

If My people will humble themselves, pray, seek My face & turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven & will forgive their sin & heal their land.




Top
#2896911 - 12/15/15 06:34 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
saskHKuk Offline
Predator Master

Registered: 09/27/15
Posts: 79
Loc: Sask,canada
i have very little time for them.

my very first encounter was a challange.
we called in that a deer had been shot and left.
after waiting nearly two hours a CO appeared and we told him what had happened.
i had a ruger 10/22 with me for chickens.

it was my turn to be interviewed by the CO.
he accused me of shooting the deer with the ruger.
i had a hard job explaining to him that ballastically and winchester subsonic .22
round would never cause a exit wound on a deer the size of a mans fist.
but no he was pretty insistent it was me.
i shook my head in disbelief,never again will i call a shot deer in again.

this years experience is when some truck hunter [beeep] shot a buck,he and the CO's
took it upon themselves to spend two days walking through posted land without
discussing it with my landowner first.
this isnt on at all.

i did a few years back email five different CO's with the same question
and got one reply back with the right answer,two asked me if i had my hunters safety(nothing to do with the actual question),one said he wouldnt reply because he didnt know me and the other ignored me.

i have been stopped once while fishing on a friends boat and that went fine for their attitude
etc but i did notice that one CO wasnt exactly savvy when we pulled our boats together as he exposed his sidearm with his arm positioning, a bit hard to explain but if i had wanted to,i could of pulled it out of the holster,(NOT THAT I WOULD DO SUCH A THING)

so alls good really

Top
#2911624 - 01/12/16 12:45 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: saskHKuk]
hawki Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 01/08/11
Posts: 40
Loc: iowa
As I have been told by my son," If they fail the attitude test it could get ugly." Many fail the first time they open their mouth, some before. More often than not the attitude you see is nothing more than the reflection of yours amplified.

Top
#2917997 - 01/22/16 12:12 AM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: hawki]
TheBoxMan Offline
New Member

Registered: 08/31/15
Posts: 19
Loc: Henry County, IL
I have only met the one that did my hunter safety course, and I now have permission to hunt his property, so you could say my experience has been pretty good thus far.

Top
#2920889 - 01/26/16 05:54 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
hawk driver Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 01/22/16
Posts: 31
Loc: Sierra Vista, AZ
I have had very few encounters with game wardens in all my years but almost all have been good.

Had one check us while dove hunting when I was 17. Unfortunately, I forgot I had taken the plug out of my 870. He did write me a ticket, but did help me cut plug out of a mesquite stick and made sure it was the right length.

Got to know one well enough at Ft Riley, KS that he would just wave at me when he would see me out in the back 40.

Had one check us after duck hunting on Milford Lake in KS. He must have been watching us, cause he knew how many ducks we had when we got to the truck. Congratulated us on bagging so many greenheads so fast. Real nice guy, didnt check guns or shells, just licenses.

Met one antelope hunting, 2002, north of Laramie, WY. Super nice guy, had a black lab with him. Had another check us in area 38 in WY in 2003, nice guy too.

We had one come onto our deer lease in AL in 2011 and wrote my buddy a ticket for baiting with corn. He knew right where to find the corn in a field. None of us had put any corn out. Rumor had it that the game warden himself was spreading the corn and then writing tickets. My friend took it to court and got it thrown out. Apparently, the judge didnt think too highly of that warden.

Top
#2922939 - 01/29/16 11:16 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: hawk driver]
ky_coyote_man Offline
Predator Master

Registered: 01/13/16
Posts: 64
Loc: Kentucky
The thing about Wardens is put yourself in their shoes. First be legal to a fault, study your state game regulations to the point of memorizing them. Be quick to show them your licenses, wholeheartedly cooperate, and get in a yes'sir or two, and have a positive attitude. Do those things and you might just make a friend, and at the very least have a good experience. We really need to ally with our Law Enforcement, they stick their necks out for us daily. Lets give them our respect.
_________________________
"I would rather be a servant in the house of the Lord, than to sit in the seats of the mighty" Alben W. Barkley 35th Vice President of the USA.

Top
#2931386 - 02/13/16 09:46 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
zerowolf Offline
Predator Master

Registered: 02/10/16
Posts: 72
Loc: Michigan
Same as with police... some great and others need to be slapped.

Where I am the DNR focus seems to be on city people vacationing here. People with too much money always seem to be doing something really stupid.

Few years ago a local warden told us about a guy he caught on state land baiting deer. He filled the bed of his truck with sugar beets and was hauling them out to the woods with two 5 gallon buckets. He even told the guy when he ticketed him he was an idiot for what he was doing... wasn't even trying to hide he was doing.

Top
#2931408 - 02/13/16 10:40 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: zerowolf]
GC Offline
PM Junkie

Registered: 04/21/01
Posts: 17046
Loc: Missouri
Originally Posted By: zerowolf
Same as with police... some great and others need to be slapped.


The waiter at the restaurant tonight was an obnoxious db also...
_________________________
Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.

Top
#2939158 - 02/29/16 10:14 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
Crippleone Offline
New Member

Registered: 02/09/16
Posts: 16
Loc: Minnesota
Met a couple nice wardens when I witnessed a couple guys poaching on the neighbors property, very nice wardens,the kind you could sit down and have a cup of coffee with. I know there is only so much they can do,but I thought in my situation they could have dug a little deeper. Here's what happened.this took place about 4 years ago. It was about the middle of October,early afternoon,I was out checking my fences,when I heard two rifle shots coming from my neighbors property,so I went to investigate. I cut through a little grove of trees that divided my property and the neighbors.when I got to the edge of my property. I saw at what I would guess 150yards,a green Chevy club cab pickup in the field,two gentlemen were bent over gutting a deer out. I watched for a while,until one of the guys looked up and saw me.He then walked over to the pickup and pulled his rifle out,he then pointed it in my direction,I thought he was checking me out with his rifle scope, but apparently not.he shot one round into the top of the tree I was standing under.I decided not to hang around after that..I went back to the house and called the warden,they showed up about an hour or so latter, like I said earlier, they were real nice guys. They asked me a few questions, and then I showed them where I saw the guys gutten the deer.they found the gut pile,and one of the wardens pulled out of his coat some kind of temperture thingy and poked it into the deer liver, he commented that it was no more than a couple hours old..we then went back to the house,where they asked me a few more questions.I told them I didnt recognize the truck but I thought I new who one of the guys were, they left and went to talk to the gentlemen, they must have looked up his name and got his address, he lived in the trailer park and his green Chevy pickup was sitting in his driveway. The wardens told me they asked him if he had been out there today,he said no.I was told they checked out the box of his truck,but couldn't find any blood. The wardens stopped back and told me there wasn't anything they could do. While the wardens were interviewing this guy,I thought I would call my neighbor to find out what was going on,he told me that no one was out hunting there and that I should mind my own business. I got pissed, I told him the next time someone takes a shot in my direction I was going to take that guys gun and shuve it up his A$$. After talking with him,I went to my shop in the garage,to blow off a little steam. Before dark I was working on a little project that the wife had been bugging me to get done, when a deputy sheriffs car pulls in the yard. I walk out to his car, thinking he wanted to talk about the poaching I witnessed. He said he wasn't here to talk about that,he was here to talk to me about the threat I had made to my neighbor. The neighbor got it right when he told the officer I was going to take a gun and shove it up sombodys behind,but he failed to tell him the why. I tried to explain the whole scenario, but the deputy wasn't all that interested in what I had to say in the matter. I asked the deputy now what,you gonna take me to jail, he said no, but my neighbor was really fearing for his life and that's why he reported it.. The deputy then told me that my threat on my neighbor would have to be reported to the county attornies office, to which the county attornies office would start a file on me,and their would be a good chance if I were to threaten my neighbor like this again I would go to jail. That's why now I will never call a game warden again. I no longer trust them to do their jobs and as far as the sheriffs dept they can kiss my behind too.
Oh yes by the way, after a while I heard that the neighbor had asked these two guys if they could get him a couple deer for his freezer, the neighbor was in on it all along.


Edited by Crippleone (03/01/16 02:13 AM)

Top
#2964730 - 05/21/16 10:13 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
michael97885 Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 03/23/16
Posts: 26
Loc: wallowa oregon
out here in oregon i am lucky enough to not run into them much, with that said i have met a couple while coyote hunting that were pretty cool ,good guys i am on good terms with another one of them and well there is always that bad apple that is a total jerk wad one of those kinda guys that got the [beeep] kicked out them in high school and now they have a badge and gonna get even with the world. i realize they have a job to do and i appreciate the job they do. so for me mostly positive except for one. glad they are out there
_________________________
michael d. hall

Top
#2978844 - 07/22/16 09:15 AM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: catcapper]
TBones Offline
New Member

Registered: 04/01/12
Posts: 11
Loc: Chaffee County Colorado
Lately here in Colorado It has changed. They seem to dislike hunters and trappers.

Top
#2980277 - 07/27/16 11:15 AM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
pk1 Offline
Die Hard Member II

Registered: 07/20/06
Posts: 1417
Loc: Oregon
My 2 bad experiences with game wardens.......

One morning we stopped into a gas station in a small town before heading home. It was still dark. I was pumping gas when a game warden pulled in to the other side of the pumps. He saw we had 2 dead coyotes in the bed of my truck and went ballistic on us saying those coyotes were minding their own business and we came along and shot them. I told him their business at that particular time was trying to kill a newborn calf. He called me a liar. I wasn't lying and told him he needed to drive up the road and talk to the rancher that owned the calf.

Ironically, the rancher was at first pissed over us killing the coyotes, too, but when he saw the damage done by the coyotes he calmed down. As far as the warden went I reminded him that we weren't breaking any laws and if the state didn't want us killing coyotes they'd put them on the protected species list rather than the non protected species list. Our conversation was laced with a lot of profanity and it wasn't coming from me.

My other story is about a warden that lived in the same small town that I did. This guy absolutely hated predator hunters. People say that if you're hunting at night be sure to call the warden for that area so he knows. Doing that with this guy would assure him teaming up with his BIL deputy sheriff and tracking you down. If he couldn't write you up for a game violation the deputy could always find something. The warden once told me that everyone breaks the law every day and it was easy to bust you. He said that when we're calling at night and accidentally run our light over a rabbit we've broken the law.

I had a hunting guide's license and he harassed me for a good 3 years. The final straw came when we couldn't get permission to access a mud hole where geese were coming in every day so we had to walk over a mile through gumbo hauling our decoys over public land. This was the desert and there would only be a single flight of geese in for the day. I saw him drive up and sit in his truck until he saw the geese approaching. Then he got out of his truck and walked towards us shooing the geese off of our spread. He checked our licenses and shotguns grinning all of the time knowing full well what he'd done.

When I got home I wrote a letter on him as did my hunting partner. The letters were certified and mailed off. This guy had gone to a few town councils and tried to get hunting outlawed in certain areas which caused other people to write letters on him. Also, one night he got his BIL to confiscate a couple of friends' firearms. He caught them calling coyotes which he hated. Those guys went to a judge and got their guns back but the guns were just tossed into the back of a truck and were badly banged up. More letters. Mine happened to be the final blow. He was demoted from Captain to Lt and a second warden was assigned to the area. He was one step away from being fired.

Like I said in a prior post. Most wardens are decent guys just doing their jobs. I've been checked out a lot of times over the years and have actually appreciated the contact. I've seen other guys breaking the law and wished there was a warden around to bust them. Wardens are looking out for our interests, too.

Now a funny one. I lived up in SE Alaska for 15 years. One morning a friend and I got up for the first day of waterfowl season. While we were out hunting this gal came up and checked our licenses. We were okay. Since we were wrapped up by 8:30 am we decided to go salmon fishing. We took my skiff out and hooked up right away. Amazingly I caught a steelhead in the salt water. When we got back to the boat ramp here was that female warden checking out our licenses and catch. She started to write me up for catching an undersized king salmon but I proceeded to show her that it was a steelhead. Fortunately we were right next to the Fish Lab where a friend of mine who was a fish biologist worked. He came down and showed her it was a steelhead so she walked away.

Later in the day I was out the road fishing for cohos. There was a guy above me catching fish and then tossing them back. Trouble was he'd killed them. I kept a couple of them and cussed him out to his face. When I got back to the road guess who was there. Right. That female warden. She asked to see my license. I handed it to her and then said, "This is the third time you've checked me today." She looked shocked then said,"I'm sorry. I never looked at your face." I just rolled my eyes and headed home.
_________________________
It's not that I didn't know how to juggle. I just didn't have the balls to do it.

Top
#3004029 - 10/31/16 08:46 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
Ghostman Offline
Die Hard Member

Registered: 12/18/07
Posts: 546
Loc: Maryland
99% of the ones I've had the displeasure of meeting in this state are arrogant A holes who seem to treat everyone like they're a criminal and guilty of breaking the law.

My last encounter a couple of years ago is an prime example. I was legally hunting on a state owned 1200 acre bowhunting only farm that required a permit and call in reservation to hunt. I checked in with the wardens by phone as required, received permission to hunt that afternoon, drove 1 hour and parked my truck in one of the designated parking areas as required. I also had my hunting permit with number displayed on drivers side dashboard window of my vehicle as required.

I was in a treestand overlooking a swamp a few hundred yards from the parking area when a saw a wardens truck drive up to my vehicle (the only one in the designated parking area) at 4:10 in the afternoon. Through 10x bino's I watched him get out of his truck, walk around my truck and look at my hunting permit displayed in the window. After a few minutes he got back in his truck and drove back the way he came in. He stopped his truck every 50 yards got out and walked a few yards in the woods looking for me. After a few stops he parked directly in front of the patch of woods I was in (truck running), got out and again walked a into the woods looking for me. All of this mind you was taking place during peak hunting hours during the Rut.

Finally when he was about 30 yards away from the tree I was in I stood up and shouted ARE YOU LOOKING FOR ME? After he came back to earth he said yes if that's your truck parked up there. I said it was and he proceeded to walk to the bottom of the tree I was in. I asked him what was the problem? His answer was nothing, I just need to check your license. At that I about came unglued!!!

I proceeded to climb down the tree (in my climber) and handed him my license which was totally unnecessary because in order to receive a hunting permit an applicant has to furnish their state license info, vehicle make/model/year, address/phone number etc. All my info is on file with my permit number which he clearly saw. All he had to do was call it but that would have been to easy. Instead he chose to be an A hole and ruin an afternoon of hunting for no good reason.

My thought on the vast majority of game wardens I've encountered....I wouldn't piss on their leg if they were on fire.



Edited by Ghostman (10/31/16 08:49 PM)

Top
#3015963 - 12/07/16 09:23 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: Ghostman]
4570Fan Offline
Predator Master

Registered: 02/02/11
Posts: 64
Loc: Buchanan Dam, TX
Luckily, I haven't had any personal contact with GWs in this area. However, I HAVE observed them breaking the traffic laws, i.e., exceeding the speed limit & changing lanes with no signal. In just a couple miles, I observed him on the side of the road, parked in an area lots of people use to walk down under the bridge to fish the creek. Was VERY close to pulling off and getting his info to report him, but had more urgent matters to tend to & just blew it off. Won't do that again. I'm tired of people who carry a badge & believe it gives them the right to behave in any way they please. Btw, it's not just the GW here who does that: I've seen VERY few LEOs who obey the traffic laws. They don't believe those laws exist to protect public safety. They believe those laws were passed merely to inconvenience LEOs, so they refuse to obey them.
_________________________
Charlie S.
RM2, USN-Ret.

Benjamin Armada .25
Rem. 788 .243Win
Marlin 1895SS .45-70Govt
Winchester M70 .30-06
Ruger 10/22
Ruger NM Blackhawk .41Mag
If I can't do it with one of those, I ain't trying it!

Top
#3020347 - 12/19/16 09:04 AM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
goosedowner Offline
Seasoned Member

Registered: 04/06/07
Posts: 143
Loc: PA
I have had nothing but good experiences with GW's in Pa. All have been courteous and polite and on several occasions have gave us some very good information.

Top
#3058116 - 03/23/17 06:54 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
Zerk Offline
New Member

Registered: 03/23/17
Posts: 10
Loc: UP
I think it depends by state. In MI & WI, they are not the friend of sportsman. I don't care if you got a deerskin lampshade in your house, I am not calling the DNR.

Buddy told me opening day of deer season, one walked up to his blind to check his papers. A cop can't just pull you over to see if you are legal.

Said, hunters spend alot of time in the woods and see lots of stuff.

Top
#3058586 - 03/25/17 11:03 AM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
viper Offline
Die Hard Member II

Registered: 05/03/07
Posts: 1299
Loc: Tucson, Arizona
Most I have had contact with have been very nice and professional . We had one in our area for years that was ...for lack or a better word special. He even threatened a local town police officer for spot lighting in a field around the local sewage treatment plant because deer were in the field and he had a weapon. Said if it happened again he would arrest him. Need less to say once the Chiefs of both agencies talked the CO never said anouther word. But that was just him, like any job you have a few testing personalities.

Top
#3091140 - 09/13/17 05:45 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
pyscodog Online
PM Junkie

Registered: 12/04/06
Posts: 15778
Loc: okla
Most wardens I have come in contact with are just everyday Joe's doing a job. If your legal then there's no problems. Some aren't just overly friendly but never rude. The public land I hunt, during certain times of deer season, coyote hunting is off. One GW told me I couldn't call coyotes during deer rifle season but it one came buy it was OK to shoot him. That being said, its deer season till a coyote comes by, then its coyote season, at least for a few minutes!! I'm sure if your an A-hole to them, they can be a bigger A-hole right back.
_________________________


Stay away from negative people, they have a problem for every solution.

Top
#3091144 - 09/13/17 06:30 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
Bad Dawg Offline
Die Hard Member II

Registered: 08/16/16
Posts: 1084
Loc: Michigan, United States
I've always made it a point to form good relationships with them. I've never had any issues. I've never been questioned or asked for my license by them. It's been quite the opposite. They always ask me to let them know if I see any suspicious activity in the field, which I wouldn't hesitate to do. They take a lot of heat similar to what law enforcement officers are taking these days. Why make their job more difficult.

I respond to any law enforcement with yes sir no sir answers and make it a point to tell them I appreciate them. And look, I've never been shot, tased, maced or had my head beat in with a billy club by one. Isn't that weird!!


Edited by Bad Dawg (09/13/17 06:44 PM)
Edit Reason: Added a sentence
_________________________
~The Yote Stops Here~

~Age and Wisdom Have Nothing In Common~

~I’m half deaf. If only I can become half blind, I’ll have found peace~

Top
#3091164 - 09/13/17 07:56 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: pyscodog]
fw707 Offline
Retired Moderator

Registered: 03/18/09
Posts: 9466
Loc: Roadside watermelon stand
Originally Posted By: pyscodog
I'm sure if your an A-hole to them, they can be a bigger A-hole right back.


I think that's actually a requirement written into their job description.

grin
_________________________
“better the hard truth, I say, than the comforting fantasy.”

Carl Sagan

Top
#3091415 - 09/15/17 07:24 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
ADK Offline
Die Hard Member III

Registered: 12/11/05
Posts: 3786
Loc: North of Sodom,West of Gomorra...
Haven't had a lot of experience with game wardens in my nearly 60 years of hunting and fishing. The few times our paths crossed I found them to be polite, professional and helpful.
_________________________
Don't call it the Democratic Party. There is nothing democratic about Democrats.

Top
#3091416 - 09/15/17 07:27 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: TBones]
ADK Offline
Die Hard Member III

Registered: 12/11/05
Posts: 3786
Loc: North of Sodom,West of Gomorra...
Originally Posted By: TBones
Lately here in Colorado It has changed. They seem to dislike hunters and trappers.


Are the leftists running your state going out of their way to recruit like minded wardens?
_________________________
Don't call it the Democratic Party. There is nothing democratic about Democrats.

Top
#3110068 - 12/07/17 12:27 AM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
bob2799 Offline
Predator Master

Registered: 11/26/17
Posts: 63
Loc: indiana
my personal experience with game wardens has all been good .. state troopers need to take lessons from the wardens I have encountered .. I suppose I will find my bad warden someday .. you know .. the bad apple that gives them all a bad name ..
I drove tractor trailer o.t.r. for over 20 years and worked the safety department in a large trucking company for many more years after I quit driving .. my experience with state troopers and d.o.t. officers has not been good .. I have dealt with many more bad officers than good and a few of them were totally corrupt dishonest and would illegally write fines and place drivers or equipment out of service all for those almighty dollars for the state .. those officers have to make that monthly quota you know !
over the years I can proudly say that all the officers that wrote me illegal fines mistreated me illegally etc. were beaten in court ! don't ever be afraid to fight them in court if they are wrong and you can prove they are wrong .. bob ........

Top
#3130182 - 02/07/18 06:13 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
willy1947 Offline
Die Hard Member III

Registered: 11/20/11
Posts: 3267
Loc: Ohio, Ohio


I live in Ohio and I am 70 years old.
I have never been checked hunting.
About 6 years ago I was fishing, when the G W check a group of Mexicans next to me.
He wrote tickets for 45 minutes. He walk over to me and Dan and said "I hope you two have licenses" LOL
_________________________
Writing in this blog is like guessing, the color of a pig in a poke. You are wrong a lot more than you are right.
"No one plans to fail; we only fail to plan!"
NRA Life Member

Top
#3130215 - 02/07/18 08:02 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
GC Offline
PM Junkie

Registered: 04/21/01
Posts: 17046
Loc: Missouri
smile
_________________________
Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.

Top
#3131090 - 02/10/18 10:13 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
galoot Offline
Seasoned Member

Registered: 10/06/08
Posts: 139
Loc: western PA
Figure you will get treated like you treat them. Even had a Warden hand me his pen when It dawned on me I forgot to sign my duck stamp, he could of keep it to write the ticket.

Top
#3143137 - 04/04/18 10:46 AM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
BrienM Offline
Seasoned Member

Registered: 03/13/18
Posts: 241
Loc: WV
Not many encounters but one time in particular, he had the impression that we were guilty of something but couldn't find anything right then and there to get us for. Couple other times was the regular license check and moved on. I have never given any attitude towards any of them. Always yes sir/no sir and totally polite. I have a lot of respect for any and all law enforcement. They are all pretty underpaid and I wouldn't be interested in doing what they do for what they make. Everyone has to make a living and some really take it seriously. America would be in better shape if everyone tried to do there job to the best of their ability instead of as little as possible to get by. (Lots of hard workers but enough slugs to make it hard on numerous others.)

Top
#3149589 - 05/27/18 07:04 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
jwb48 Offline
New Member

Registered: 08/14/09
Posts: 1
Loc: Navarro co. Texas
In the late 60's, I was remodeling my parents house. My Uncle came by wanting to go crappie fishing. So I said ok just for a little while. On the way to the lake I realized I hadn't bought my license yet for the new year. It was bout 45 degrees that day and we figured no GW would be out. Wrong. Bout 30 minutes into fishing, a boat came from 1/2 mile away, and made a beeee line straight for the small cove we were in. The GW boat pulled up to us and asked for license. Not good. Back then the fine was $25. At the time hunting license was $3.15 and fishing was $2.15 Ten years worth of license. Lesson learned. I do taxidermy and some of my closest friends and nicest people are Game Wardens.

Top
#3151018 - 06/11/18 10:35 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: jwb48]
spotstalkshoot Offline
Die Hard Member III

Registered: 12/22/13
Posts: 2488
Loc: so.mn
In several counties in Mn the CO's are spending a good portion of duty hours on meth/opiate surveillance operations. Parks and recreation areas have been used for drug dealing and sheriff's have needed help with the rural areas(not sure why regular LE needs help). I have wondered what affect this will have on sportsman/CO interactions.

Top
#3151041 - 06/12/18 10:36 AM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: spotstalkshoot]
GC Offline
PM Junkie

Registered: 04/21/01
Posts: 17046
Loc: Missouri
Originally Posted By: spotstalkshoot
In several counties in Mn the CO's are spending a good portion of duty hours on meth/opiate surveillance operations. Parks and recreation areas have been used for drug dealing and sheriff's have needed help with the rural areas(not sure why regular LE needs help). I have wondered what affect this will have on sportsman/CO interactions.


If I were a sportsman using the area I'd be happy someone was patrolling around there. Kinda nice to know your truck is going to be there at the end of the day and/or it hasn't been broken into so some doper can sell your stuff for a $20 fix. A Conservation Officer worth his salt should be able to tell the good guys from the bad guys and be happy to interact with legitimate sportsmen using the area. Again, if the CO is any good he knows every legit sportsman out there is another set of eyes to help keep the area safe from bad dudes. It's all good...
_________________________
Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.

Top
#3156088 - 07/25/18 07:37 AM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
PaVarminter Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 02/24/17
Posts: 37
Loc: Pa
In our part of the state here in Pa we have a woman Game Warden. I’ve talked to her several times and she seems nice enough but don’t ever meet up with her driving down these narrow mountain roads she’ll run you off the road!! That has happened to me twice and I yelled at her twice lol

Top
#3156155 - 07/25/18 04:55 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
GC Offline
PM Junkie

Registered: 04/21/01
Posts: 17046
Loc: Missouri
Well... in all fairness to game wardens, it's still a woman driver.
_________________________
Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.

Top
#3158600 - 08/10/18 08:45 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
viper Offline
Die Hard Member II

Registered: 05/03/07
Posts: 1299
Loc: Tucson, Arizona
Some are very nice here in Indiana, and others act like you’ve done something wrong and they are trying to bust you. I even had one approach the farmer I had permission to hunt from after he found out who it was from me. And asked him if he could hunt the same property. Owner said no he had someone hunting. Thought that was kinda crappy. But most I have met in Arizona have been real nice.

Top
#3168957 - 10/27/18 04:09 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
EMP3 Offline
Seasoned Member

Registered: 10/18/18
Posts: 142
Loc: So Cal
Deleted. See Dick's dedicated memorial thread.


Edited by EMP3 (10/27/18 05:20 PM)

Top
#3169581 - 10/31/18 03:35 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
daveInME Offline
Die Hard Member

Registered: 10/30/05
Posts: 851
Loc: Millinocket, Maine
I've never met one hunting but several times when fishing and they have been nothing but nice, even suggesting different bait for that particular spot.

Last year i was checked 3 times in a week and a half, and thought it odd, until the 3rd time when he was just starting his "hi there, how's the fish.... Oh it's you,enjoy the day"and started to walk away

I realized then that I had just moved to the area and they didn't know me from a distance so they checked. He and I are now on a 1st name basis.

What also helps is my wife is a volunteer for avaian haven in Freedom, Maine. he has called us 3 times with an injured bird needing rehab. 1 owl, 1 coopers hawk and a nighthawk.
Kind of neat getting up close and feeding a raptor.
_________________________
Dave

Factory Certified Useless Bum
(just ask she who must be obeyed)

Top
#3198685 - 03/21/19 07:27 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
varminter .223 Online
Die Hard Member III

Registered: 03/01/10
Posts: 3193
Loc: south central Illinois
Seems most I run into are arrogant aholes who think their job is to strutt around harassing law abiding people such as myself. I have run into a couple nice one but the former seem to be the majority.


Edited by varminter .223 (03/21/19 07:30 PM)

Top
#3213566 - 09/29/19 03:56 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
22 Chuck Offline
Seasoned Member

Registered: 08/11/17
Posts: 244
Loc: Montmorency Co, MI
Ive always wondered why they run thru the woods in season, esp deer season, w/ camouflage?? Everyone else is req to have orange, by law and common sense. I guess they dont want to give themselves away, but might get shot??

Top
#3229817 - 01/23/20 11:32 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: kc_hhsl]
hunterbob Offline
New Member

Registered: 06/02/12
Posts: 11
Loc: Texas
Be careful for what you wish for lol
_________________________
"A true Hunter doesn't measure his success or failures, by his kills alone." ~ Robert Tucker Sr.

Top
#3234749 - 02/20/20 12:16 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
Jg505 Offline
New Member

Registered: 02/07/20
Posts: 4
Loc: Michigan
Locally I have ran into the same DNR officer on separate run ins, hunting he was cool and laid back, on our dirt bikes he was not so cool.

Top
#3237049 - 03/05/20 10:44 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
Decoyed Offline
Predator Master

Registered: 01/20/20
Posts: 84
Loc: Minnesota
Good and bad here. The laws are made with very gray areas and loop holes so technically you can be in the right and wrong at the same time. Minnesota laws are terrible for this. I've ask 1 warden and he says not legal and the next says totally fine. We've had 1 warden fired because she was so unprofessional and was harassing sportsman. The way to cure the bad ones is to file A harassment report with their chief. This usually changes their attitude because they like their 80k job and free truck. I had to do this to a police officer and I never had a problem again with him. If I was to break the law and was caught I would say they did their jobs which doesn't mean being a bad officer. Even if they issue tickets they must be professional. Anything less is unexceptionable being they technically work for us and we pay their salary.

Top
#3294528 - 02/19/22 09:56 AM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
EasternPredHunter Offline
Die Hard Member II

Registered: 12/31/11
Posts: 1227
Loc: Michigan
My experience only extends to Michigan DNR. And our great state is widely know for our corrupt and large number of ill informed conservation officers. I have many stories I could tell. Some are mine, some are family stories, and some are stories of friends. Even a couple of local CO’s wrote a book about how terrible the Michigan DNR is as a whole. It’s really a shame. Our state funnels an unreal amount of money to conservation and I couldn’t be more thrilled about it. I just wish a little bit of that money went into measures that ensure officers are correctly enforcing real law and went into a little more classroom time for the officers that are…well…a bit on the caveman side mentally.
It’s truly sad. Many of the outdoorsman in my state who are upstanding hunters have been horribly harassed by our CO’s and there is very little a fellow can do about it. Pretty hard to complain to the people who did you wrong and expect something good to come of it. Oh well. Hunt within the law, obey the rules set for your recreational activity, and keep your head down because sooner or later one of our CO’s will make an example out of you for whatever he feels is law.
God says to obey the laws of the land and give unto Caesar what is Caesar’s. And that’s what I intend to do.
_________________________
""An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man is a slave."
- Unknown

Top
#3296663 - 03/24/22 08:33 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
masshunter Offline
Die Hard Member II

Registered: 12/10/08
Posts: 1280
Loc: western mass
In 58 years of hunting I have had only a handful of interactions with Wardens, all except one were routine and friendly, and the only tense one was a misunderstanding that turned out ok. While scouting for the up coming bear season I found a bait site, illegal here. I reported it, gave my name, truck tags, and said I would move over the hill. Second day walking in two wardens with guns drawn jumped out yelling "hands up". After identifying myself, that I reported it, it seems there was more than one pile of oats and dog food and they sat that one the second day, and I was walking near it unknowingly. I moved a mile away after that. I've been a hunter ed volunteer instructor for the past six years and we try to have a CO to address every class and answer questions and it goes very well.The takeaway is, don't lie, don't have an attitude, and don't try to bend the grey areas. Also just because you don't see them doesn't mean they didn't watch you. A Vermont CO that checked me on my boat on the lake told me exactly where I fished on a local river, and that I only kept a couple trout. Seems the F&G office was just up the road from my spot as he drove by.

Top
#3296723 - 03/25/22 03:18 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
GLShooter Offline
PM Sponsor

Registered: 01/09/05
Posts: 5337
Loc: AZ
I've been checked a few times shooting PD's in Arizona. Most checks were fine and the 20 caliber wildcat AR's got lots of props from them.

The last time I was 10 miles back in th e field on top of a hill and a young fellow drove up. I left my rifle on the pick up tail gate and walked over to him, I was eating lunch, and we chatted. He saw my license but as it went on he got more and more nervous. I finally asked him what the problem was and he said it was how I was standing that bothered him! I said what was that all about and he said you're balding off on me. I said you mean a T-stance and he said yes. Well I told him that I was an LEO and that in my world that was what you did and that I never squared flat out with anyone period. I then pointed out that he might consider that as he had been completely exposed to me during all of our discussion. I was way past sixty years old and am pretty non-threatening but appearances aren't always correct.

I told him I wished him well but he needed to think tactics. I explained I taught a bit of that and he would have been in serious danger if my regular customers were there and not me. To his credit his eyes got real big and suddenly he decided he needed to go way out yonder. Had it been anymore than this his supervisor and I would have had a set down. I suspect he was new to the job as he exhibited zero situational awareness.

Greg
_________________________

Top
#3296724 - 03/25/22 03:19 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
GLShooter Offline
PM Sponsor

Registered: 01/09/05
Posts: 5337
Loc: AZ
Double tap.


Edited by GLShooter (03/25/22 03:20 PM)
_________________________

Top
#3297114 - 03/31/22 02:20 PM Re: What's been your experience with Game Wardens??? [Re: yotehunter57]
pyscodog Online
PM Junkie

Registered: 12/04/06
Posts: 15778
Loc: okla
I've had several run ins with Game Wardens. Never had a single problem. I make sure when I go into the woods that I am 100% legal. If your legal then there's no reason to worry. I use to hunt directly behind a rangers home. People ask how I could do that? If your legal then what's the problem??? It was public land and open for hunting. I could see his back yard from my tree stand. The last warden I talked to was during rifle season. I was at my truck having some coffee. He stopped by and visited with me over a cup of java.(Of course he checked my license) Ask if I needed anything. I said nope I'm good. He wished me luck and went on his way. They are just normal people doing their job, same as all the rest of us.
_________________________


Stay away from negative people, they have a problem for every solution.

Top
Page 1 of 11 1 2 3 ... 10 11 >




© Predator Masters™, All Rights Reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.