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#2465888 - 03/19/13 08:49 PM Re: whats the best way to keep people from poaching on your property [Re: wvyotehunter68]
Bob after Bob Offline
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Registered: 01/13/13
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Loc: In the swamps
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Edited by Bob after Bob (03/20/13 02:39 PM)

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#2466396 - 03/20/13 01:49 PM Re: whats the best way to keep people from poaching on your property [Re: Bob after Bob]
fw707 Offline
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Registered: 03/18/09
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Loc: Roadside watermelon stand
Originally Posted By: Bob after Bob
3ft piece of 3/8 all thread buy some washers and some nuts. Cut it into 8" piecies put your nuts and washers down 8" in each piece then cut the piecies at a angle with a grinder, then sharpen. Use 2 nuts and 1 big washer on each one. Put the nut then washer then nut, down 3". Put them in the ground 5 inches you will see the vehicle thats driving in and breaking and entering. Many do it here in PA.



I would definitely recommend doing some research into the laws in your state regarding "booby traps" before spiking a roadway.
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#2466405 - 03/20/13 02:03 PM Re: whats the best way to keep people from poaching on your property [Re: wvyotehunter68]
Bob after Bob Offline
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Registered: 01/13/13
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Loc: In the swamps
Ya i know people who do this but i have no idea if its legal thats why i put some PA landowners do it.I would think a tresspasser would have a hard time beating it if the property is clearly posted. But check the laws first. I would try cameras first.


Edited by Bob after Bob (03/20/13 02:08 PM)

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#2466479 - 03/20/13 04:18 PM Re: whats the best way to keep people from poaching on your property [Re: Bob after Bob]
Redfrog Offline
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Registered: 12/12/01
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Loc: Palliser Triangle, Alberta
A driveway monitor system may help. They are wireless and some have a range of a couple miles. It would alert you when someone accesses your property.

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#2466569 - 03/20/13 06:14 PM Re: whats the best way to keep people from poaching on your property [Re: wvyotehunter68]
Rocky1 Offline
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Registered: 11/24/10
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Loc: ND/FL - USA
Originally Posted By: wvyotehunter68
I havnt contacted gw yet but I am next time there's a problem. I have a relative who's a cop that hunts with me sometimes I would love to.catch him or them when hes hunting with me. Here in wv u can arrest anyone that's trespassing on your property the landowner can. Plus its in his jurisdiction. I've tried the infrared cam they just shot it numerous times with a shotgun . It destroyerd the whole camera, card and all. Don't no how they found it I had it hid really good. Always thought about making my own gate so that I can make it impossible to shoot or cut the lock since I'm a welder. My buddy did this and hasn't had a problem since but it was a pretty pricey job. I no I'm going to be haveing more problems shortly since the turkeys are gobbling. I think I might try stakeing the place out Here soon.



Sounds like you need to out fox them... https://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&q=remote%20storage%20game%20camera

Remote storage game cameras, as the name implies take pictures one place, and radio them to a seperate storage unit. They can stand there and talk smart and think they're actually accomplishing something shooting the game camera, but you will be building charges on them all the while for that too, with the memory card full of pictures, safely someplace else. And, if you win in court, you can seek to recover costs of your camera in settlement. They aren't cheap, but it sounds like maybe you're to a point of principle and seeking satisfaction.

Or, you could do cellular game cam, and that one can be set up to send to your cell phone when it's taking pictures, and you would be alerted when they broke in. In that manner, you could quick call your police relative hunting buddy, who probably has connections in law enforcement, and you guys could catch them in the act. But, that one is a little spendier and you have to pay for the phone line to boot.

https://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&q=cell%20phone%20game%20camera


Spiking the road is an option, but usually someone that doesn't deserve to have ruined tires gets caught up in that too. Down here they use pole barn nails, insert them about half the length of the nail into a piece of half inch conduit about a foot long, then take a hammer and beat the conduit flat over the nail. Sharpen the leading edge of the nail as suggested above, then pound into the road.
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#2466890 - 03/21/13 12:15 AM Re: whats the best way to keep people from poaching on your property [Re: wvyotehunter68]
predyotevarmint Offline
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Registered: 12/05/12
Posts: 392
Loc: PA
Put signs at gate saying property monitored by cameras.

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#2467193 - 03/21/13 12:32 PM Re: whats the best way to keep people from poaching on your property [Re: predyotevarmint]
wvyotehunter68 Offline
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Registered: 02/20/13
Posts: 351
Loc: wv
Already.did this.didn't work. I thin just going to go.with the gate idea
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#2467194 - 03/21/13 12:34 PM Re: whats the best way to keep people from poaching on your property [Re: Rocky1]
wvyotehunter68 Offline
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Registered: 02/20/13
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Loc: wv
I might try this too
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#2467207 - 03/21/13 12:56 PM Re: whats the best way to keep people from poaching on your property [Re: wvyotehunter68]
Dogman223 Offline
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Registered: 12/18/12
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Loc: Idaho
May not help but we have had the same problem at one of our family owned ranches that holds a lot of big mule deer and critters and a private fishing hole people like to sneek into at night we invested in a few solar powerd motion lights that Realy lite things up it has all but come to a stop we put some at the gates and fishing hole seems people get nervouse when they think they been caught red handed

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#2467209 - 03/21/13 12:58 PM Re: whats the best way to keep people from poaching on your property [Re: wvyotehunter68]
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Registered: 10/04/12
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Loc: AZ, Phoenix
You could also put some paint pans with Orange paint in them.. Then when they drive in it gets all over the tires and truck..
Should make it easy to spot them if you live a small town.
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#2467266 - 03/21/13 02:15 PM Re: whats the best way to keep people from poaching on your property [Re: Tbone-AZ]
wvyotehunter68 Offline
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Registered: 02/20/13
Posts: 351
Loc: wv
That's a good idea the only problem is I got a oil well on my property and they use the gate also to check the well. I'm sorrry I forgot to mention this guys just now thought of it . They also get pretty mad when they have to buy new locks. But I show no pitty for them they have left the gate wide open before. But they don't do that anymore not gonna say what I said or did. In the past week I found 2 dead deer just bones ribcages fur etc one was a doe the other I couldn't tell had no head attached. I can't tell if they did because of winter or what the animals had pretty well picked them dry.
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#2467694 - 03/21/13 11:33 PM Re: whats the best way to keep people from poaching on your property [Re: wvyotehunter68]
dog1whckr Offline
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Registered: 05/25/08
Posts: 2490
Loc: Wyoming
Trail camera(s) have worked really well for me as a poacher/trespasser ID method AND keeps an eye(no pun intended) on our standalone, vertical deer blind. Video mode can give you some real interesting stuff. Infrared is the best. In our case, the target individuals were completely ignorant of the fact that they had been video digitized in daylight and after dark.

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#2467942 - 03/22/13 12:00 PM Re: whats the best way to keep people from poaching on your property [Re: wvyotehunter68]
wvyotehunter68 Offline
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Registered: 02/20/13
Posts: 351
Loc: wv
I just put up trail cam yesterday. I didn't put by the gate I put it in the woods hopeing it will catch them off gaurd. I don't think they will be looking for cams in the woods. I think the look the gate area over pretty good.
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#2468619 - 03/23/13 08:48 AM Re: whats the best way to keep people from poaching on your property [Re: SkyPup]
yotehunter57 Offline
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Registered: 12/19/09
Posts: 2465
Loc: Arkansas
Originally Posted By: SkyPup
Game cam video is prima facia evidence in courts here for trespassing and/or poaching, while photographs are not...


That may be the problem here in backassward land (Arkansas)
Our major problem around here is copper theft, and came camera pics are laughed at by the LEOs. The farmers have had pics of the thieves with bolt cutters in hand, in the process of cutting large copper wire, and have been laughed out of the sherrifs office.

Maybe video is what is needed. I'll have to check and see if that would help.
Thanks for the suggestion SkyPup.

Shayne
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#2468656 - 03/23/13 10:09 AM Re: whats the best way to keep people from poaching on your property [Re: yotehunter57]
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Registered: 09/14/09
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Loc: AZ
Originally Posted By: yotehunter57
Originally Posted By: SkyPup
Game cam video is prima facia evidence in courts here for trespassing and/or poaching, while photographs are not...


That may be the problem here in backassward land (Arkansas)
Our major problem around here is copper theft, and came camera pics are laughed at by the LEOs. The farmers have had pics of the thieves with bolt cutters in hand, in the process of cutting large copper wire, and have been laughed out of the sherrifs office.

Maybe video is what is needed. I'll have to check and see if that would help.
Thanks for the suggestion SkyPup.

Shayne


Photos (video or still) should be able to be used for evidence if the person who took them is willing to testify if necessary that they were the person who took the pictures, the photos were not altered, and are a true representation of what they photographed.
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