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#2465628 - 03/19/13 02:23 PM Semi-auto ban DEAD?
NcWhitetail Offline
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The leader of the Democrat-controlled Senate on Tuesday dropped a proposed assault weapons ban from the chamber’s gun-control package – dealing a blow to supporters of the ban, though it could still come up for a vote.

The sponsor of the measure, Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., revealed that Reid told her the proposed ban would not be in the initial package. Feinstein said she's "disappointed" with the decision, and is expected to nevertheless offer it as an amendment.

But the move by Reid to cut it from the main bill signals a lack of congressional support for a proposal that would not only revive, but strengthen, the decade-long ban that expired in 2004.

The proposed ban passed out of committee last week along with three other measures. The other three dealt with providing more school safety aid, expanding federal background checks on potential gun buyers and helping authorities prosecute illegal gun traffickers.

Feinstein has led the gun-control charge since President Obama called for federal legislation in the wake of the Newtown and other mass shootings.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/03/.../#ixzz2O0lTcBgA

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#2465631 - 03/19/13 02:25 PM Re: Semi-auto ban DEAD? [Re: NcWhitetail]
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#2465642 - 03/19/13 02:38 PM Re: Semi-auto ban DEAD? [Re: NcWhitetail]
Stu Farish Offline
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it's pretty well recognized that it's highly unlikely to even pass in the senate & has no chance in the house.
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#2465643 - 03/19/13 02:38 PM Re: Semi-auto ban DEAD? [Re: NcWhitetail]
AzDiamondHeat Offline
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Registered: 07/16/09
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“The enemies on this are very powerful. I've known that all my life,”Sen Feinstein

At what point did I or any other US CITIZEN become the ENEMY????? That statement alone should make people realize what she stands for(if they didn't already know).
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#2465648 - 03/19/13 02:40 PM Re: Semi-auto ban DEAD? [Re: NcWhitetail]
Irish_80 Offline
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Loc: Northwest Missouri
That is very good news.

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#2465680 - 03/19/13 03:39 PM Re: Semi-auto ban DEAD? [Re: NcWhitetail]
jarheadhunter Offline
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I wouldn't be surprised if they are just playing this off then slipping something in at the last minute.
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#2465681 - 03/19/13 03:39 PM Re: Semi-auto ban DEAD? [Re: NcWhitetail]
dishguy Offline
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Registered: 10/25/10
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Loc: western NC
"helping authorities prosecute illegal gun traffickers. "

now thats funny.haha they gonna prosecute our own government? how many guns have they "trafficked" to other countries?

Its not like they armed our enemys.


Edited by dishguy (03/19/13 03:42 PM)

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#2465688 - 03/19/13 03:45 PM Re: Semi-auto ban DEAD? [Re: NcWhitetail]
RJM Acres Offline
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Loc: Ozarks
Bet feinstein is throwing a tantrum today.

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#2465689 - 03/19/13 03:46 PM Re: Semi-auto ban DEAD? [Re: NcWhitetail]
pukindog Offline
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Just watch out for the "common sense compromise" of universal background checks. Who needs an AWB that would take some guns now, when you can have what will in effect be registration that could evntually take them all.
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#2465694 - 03/19/13 03:55 PM Re: Semi-auto ban DEAD? [Re: NcWhitetail]
Shurshot Offline
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Registered: 06/23/12
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I think we may have won the battle, but the war has just begun.

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#2465702 - 03/19/13 04:07 PM Re: Semi-auto ban DEAD? [Re: Shurshot]
Weatherby243 Offline
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Loc: western pa
Originally Posted By: Shurshot
I think we may have won the battle, but the war has just begun.

Exactly

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#2465712 - 03/19/13 04:25 PM Re: Semi-auto ban DEAD? [Re: NcWhitetail]
elks Offline
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Registered: 02/28/03
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They only did it so that they have a better chance at passing the rest...
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#2465729 - 03/19/13 04:46 PM Re: Semi-auto ban DEAD? [Re: pukindog]
Rbreb13 Offline
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Originally Posted By: pukindog
Just watch out for the "common sense compromise" of universal background checks. Who needs an AWB that would take some guns now, when you can have what will in effect be registration that could evntually take them all.


I'll agree with that!
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#2465735 - 03/19/13 05:03 PM Re: Semi-auto ban DEAD? [Re: NcWhitetail]
BroncoGlenn Offline
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Some more from AP: [http://m.apnews.com/ap/pm_5071/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=ESbBUDc8]

Quote:

Assault weapons ban won't be in Dems' gun bill

WASHINGTON (AP) - Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid has decided that a proposed assault weapons ban won't be part of a gun control bill the Senate plans to debate next month, the sponsor of the ban said Tuesday, a decision that means the ban stands little chance of survival.

Instead, Sen. Dianne Feinstein said she will be able to offer her ban on the military-style firearms as an amendment. Feinstein is all but certain to need 60 votes from the 100-member Senate to prevail, but she faces solid Republican opposition and likely defections from some moderate Democrats.

"I very much regret it," Feinstein, D-Calif., told reporters of Reid's decision. "I tried my best."

Asked about the decision, Reid, D-Nev., said he wanted to bring a gun bill to the full Senate that would have enough support to overcome any GOP attempts to prevent debate from even starting.

He said that "using the most optimistic numbers," there were less than 40 votes for Feinstein's ban. That is far less than the 60 votes needed to begin considering legislation, and an indication that Reid feared that including the assault weapons ban in the main guns bill would risk getting the votes needed to begin debate.

"I'm not going to try to put something on the floor that won't succeed. I want something that will succeed. I think the worst of all worlds would be to bring to something to the floor and it dies there," Reid said.

Feinstein, an author of the 1994 assault weapons ban that expired after a decade, said that Reid told her of the decision on Monday.

There are 53 Democrats in the Senate, plus two independents who usually vote with them.

An assault-type weapon was used in the December massacre at an elementary school in Newtown, Conn., that revived gun control as a top issue in Washington. Banning those firearms was among the proposals President Barack Obama made in January in response to those slayings.

The assault weapons ban was the most controversial of the major proposals to restrict guns that have been advanced by Obama and Senate Democrats. Because of that, it had been expected that the assault weapons measure would be left out of the initial package the Senate considers, with Democrats hoping the Senate could therefore amass the strongest possible vote for the overall legislation.

Having a separate vote on assault weapons might free moderate Democratic senators facing re-election next year in Republican-leaning states to vote against the assault weapons measure, but then support the remaining overall package of gun curbs.

Gun control supporters consider a strong Senate vote important because the Republican-run House has shown little enthusiasm for most of Obama's proposals.

Feinstein said Reid told her there will be two votes.

One would be on her assault weapons ban, which also includes a ban on ammunition magazines that carry more than 10 rounds of ammunition. The second would just be on prohibiting the high-capacity magazine clips.

Many Democrats think the ban on large-capacity magazines has a better chance of getting 60 votes than the assault weapons ban.

The Senate Judiciary Committee has approved four gun control measures this month, including Feinstein's barring assault weapons and high capacity magazines. The others would expand required federal background checks for firearms buyers, increase federal penalties for illegal gun trafficking and boost school safety money.



Edited by BroncoGlenn (03/19/13 05:04 PM)
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#2465738 - 03/19/13 05:05 PM Re: Semi-auto ban DEAD? [Re: NcWhitetail]
BroncoGlenn Offline
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Just to clarify though, the magazine capacity ban is still on the table, however. So we need to still get that shut down, as well as requirements for private party background checks.
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#2465968 - 03/19/13 09:57 PM Re: Semi-auto ban DEAD? [Re: RJM Acres]
bignasty Offline
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Registered: 08/17/12
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Loc: Tucson Arizona
Originally Posted By: RJM Acres
Bet feinstein is throwing a tantrum today.


6th graders throw fits????

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#2466028 - 03/19/13 10:51 PM Re: Semi-auto ban DEAD? [Re: bignasty]
Orneryolfart357 Offline
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You mean "76 th " Graders! This old Hag has to go!
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#2466053 - 03/19/13 11:18 PM Re: Semi-auto ban DEAD? [Re: NcWhitetail]
predyotevarmint Offline
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Registered: 12/05/12
Posts: 392
Loc: PA
We can take a deep breath,but we can't drop our guard. This fight is not over and may be just a rope A dope. Got to watch the counter attack and start working it as soon as possible. I say we push them. We gave more than enough money to defeat these bills and so fourth.Lets push them for more rights of we the people. They got to be punished for that crap they been trying. Lets take things from them that truly belong to us.


Edited by predyotevarmint (03/19/13 11:20 PM)

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#2466254 - 03/20/13 10:16 AM Re: Semi-auto ban DEAD? [Re: NcWhitetail]
semo97 Offline
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just because the coon tail rattler isn't buzzing doesn't mean he will not strike. I do not trust a dang thing they say or the press writes, they are all in the same den together and it it still stinks
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#2466362 - 03/20/13 12:55 PM Re: Semi-auto ban DEAD? [Re: NcWhitetail]
Bullmastiff Offline
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Do not fall for the rope-a-dope. They are masters of illusion. They already had this planned with contingencies. If A fails, go to B. If B fails, go to C. That witch is always a threat to slip it back in some place else, just waiting for the perfect opportunity. They plan for decades, where we just plan for the weekend. We MUST be vigilante. We have a bad habit of being complacent. All we have done at this point is slowed their forward advancement, we have not stopped it, we have not knocked them on their heels at all. We need to sweep their legs out and step on their throat! This is not a game, we are in a fight for our rights, liberty, and our very survival! If you are wondering where to begin, start by educating yourself. Read what our founding fathers faced and what they did. They faced greater odds with far more at stake with far less resources than we have today! Once you educate yourself, then pass it on! Educate others, especially the young (kids, teens and young adults) and women. Your goal is not the person who has already made up their mind, but those that have no opinion, are on the fence and/or just don't know the facts. Don't allow lies to go unchallenged. When faced with facts and the truth, the anti's show their true colors, they are cowards at heart. We need to all stand together, or surely we will all hang separately!

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#2466371 - 03/20/13 01:09 PM Re: Semi-auto ban DEAD? [Re: BroncoGlenn]
Centurion Offline
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I believe they will try to get things through by doing it on several fronts at the same time. One way is they will bury new gun laws inside other bills that are unrelated. They won't give up on their agenda, a key part of which is to disarm us.
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#2466397 - 03/20/13 01:51 PM Re: Semi-auto ban DEAD? [Re: Centurion]
RJM Acres Offline
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Registered: 10/07/09
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Originally Posted By: Centurion

I believe they will try to get things through by doing it on several fronts at the same time. One way is they will bury new gun laws inside other bills that are unrelated. They won't give up on their agenda, a key part of which is to disarm us.



That is a practice that should be outlawed.
I think if a bill can't stand on it's own then it shouldn't even
be introduced, attached or buried in others.

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#2466463 - 03/20/13 03:46 PM Re: Semi-auto ban DEAD? [Re: RJM Acres]
Huntinjim Offline
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Originally Posted By: RJM Acres
Originally Posted By: Centurion

I believe they will try to get things through by doing it on several fronts at the same time. One way is they will bury new gun laws inside other bills that are unrelated. They won't give up on their agenda, a key part of which is to disarm us.



That is a practice that should be outlawed.
I think if a bill can't stand on it's own then it shouldn't even
be introduced, attached or buried in others.

Agreed. That was the purpose of the Line Item Veto but it's ancient history as well.
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#2466501 - 03/20/13 04:47 PM Re: Semi-auto ban DEAD? [Re: NcWhitetail]
dogcatcher Offline
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I think an assault weapon bill would have hampered the 2014 elections for the Democrats, now they can say "Look we did not take away any of your guns" They will hammer the voters with this in 2014 and bring up all of the sequester crap and blame it in on the Republicans.

Be prepared to help fund candidates in 2014, doesn't matter what state, because the Republicans will have a tough row to hoe and need lost of money to keep the seats they have and try to win more.
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#2466537 - 03/20/13 05:33 PM Re: Semi-auto ban DEAD? [Re: dogcatcher]
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I'm thinking it's already too late to cover their @ss, the battle that has been staged has already cost them countless votes. They will lose the Senate next year too. Then maybe Obama will be able to accomplish something with the Republicans in full control. UNLESS... he's arrogant and ignorant enough to think that he can head butt with both houses of congress and win.
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#2466629 - 03/20/13 07:22 PM Re: Semi-auto ban DEAD? [Re: Rocky1]
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#2466695 - 03/20/13 08:41 PM Re: Semi-auto ban DEAD? [Re: the noobie]
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I'm with Rocky, these bastards have tipped their hand... the gig is up. It's pretty easy to see what's happened here in Colorado, if the dems had control of both houses of congress now like they did just a few short years ago.... We'd be so screwed right now.

I also don't think this sequester thing is going to stick to the GOP much if at all. This country has a serious debit problem and just about everyone knows it except for Obama and his ilk. My democrat neighbor even expresses disgust over it.
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#2466757 - 03/20/13 09:45 PM Re: Semi-auto ban DEAD? [Re: Furhunter]
Bullmastiff Offline
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Loc: Eastern Oregon
Originally Posted By: Furhunter
My democrat neighbor even expresses disgust over it.


Many people that I know, who are self proclaimed liberals, are starting to wake up. I think we are at the tipping point right now. If enough people wake up soon enough, it won't hurt as much. Make no doubt about it though, the hurt is coming.

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#2467058 - 03/21/13 09:33 AM Re: Semi-auto ban DEAD? [Re: Bullmastiff]
Rocky1 Offline
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Originally Posted By: Bullmastiff
Originally Posted By: Furhunter
My democrat neighbor even expresses disgust over it.


Many people that I know, who are self proclaimed liberals, are starting to wake up. I think we are at the tipping point right now. If enough people wake up soon enough, it won't hurt as much. Make no doubt about it though, the hurt is coming.



Absolutely... I don't think this thing is just going to turn around and get better, I think we've got a few years to go before the pendulum swings all the way and begins its travel back to a right minded and prosperous state of existence in this country. The problem being there are entirely too many folks living off the government tit, and the only way the right will regain control of power and take the liberal morons out that are ruining this country for the working class, is if all of the working class gets behind them.

Since there are a whole bunch of ignorant working class folks; those that believe everything they hear out of the biased media (more accurately read "leftwing socialist propaganda") machine, one has to assume that's going to be difficult to accomplish as well. We not only have to overthrow the liberal government, we also have to overthrow the liberal propogandists to even begin to turn this thing around. Those extra taxes coming out of the dimwitted's paychecks as soon as Obamacare kicked in woke a great many of them up. When they file their taxes next year, and confront that $2000 penalty for not having insurance, on top of the tax increases they've already seen, I think we'll see something resembling nuclear reaction as they all implode upon facing the reality their party and the media have lied to them repeatedly and they fell neck deep in it, then they'll mushroom into conservative thinking.

We're seeing a great deal of that already, we conservatives are just as guilty. We've become too complacent, we have simply set back and let things go in government, complained when they screwed up, but only to ourselves and each other. Since the Obama Gun Grab hit the left's propaganda machine, we've seen a great many people making the time to let our government know what a [beeep] job they're doing, and not just on the issue of the gun grab. There have been a whole lot of issues that they've seen a whole lot of e-mails and petitions about. And, that's what it's going to take to right this thing. We have got to get involved and let them know we are aware of what's going on. If left to simply run and play as they please, much like children, they will get neck deep in trouble, and they will have to be reined in and disciplined.
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