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#2465628 - 03/19/13 02:23 PM Semi-auto ban DEAD?
NcWhitetail Offline
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The leader of the Democrat-controlled Senate on Tuesday dropped a proposed assault weapons ban from the chamber’s gun-control package – dealing a blow to supporters of the ban, though it could still come up for a vote.

The sponsor of the measure, Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., revealed that Reid told her the proposed ban would not be in the initial package. Feinstein said she's "disappointed" with the decision, and is expected to nevertheless offer it as an amendment.

But the move by Reid to cut it from the main bill signals a lack of congressional support for a proposal that would not only revive, but strengthen, the decade-long ban that expired in 2004.

The proposed ban passed out of committee last week along with three other measures. The other three dealt with providing more school safety aid, expanding federal background checks on potential gun buyers and helping authorities prosecute illegal gun traffickers.

Feinstein has led the gun-control charge since President Obama called for federal legislation in the wake of the Newtown and other mass shootings.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/03/.../#ixzz2O0lTcBgA

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#2465631 - 03/19/13 02:25 PM Re: Semi-auto ban DEAD? [Re: NcWhitetail]
Bob after Bob Offline
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Registered: 01/13/13
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#2465642 - 03/19/13 02:38 PM Re: Semi-auto ban DEAD? [Re: NcWhitetail]
Stu Farish Offline
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it's pretty well recognized that it's highly unlikely to even pass in the senate & has no chance in the house.
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#2465643 - 03/19/13 02:38 PM Re: Semi-auto ban DEAD? [Re: NcWhitetail]
AzDiamondHeat Offline
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Registered: 07/16/09
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Loc: Arizona


“The enemies on this are very powerful. I've known that all my life,”Sen Feinstein

At what point did I or any other US CITIZEN become the ENEMY????? That statement alone should make people realize what she stands for(if they didn't already know).
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#2465648 - 03/19/13 02:40 PM Re: Semi-auto ban DEAD? [Re: NcWhitetail]
Irish_80 Offline
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Registered: 10/01/10
Posts: 1150
Loc: Northwest Missouri
That is very good news.

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#2465680 - 03/19/13 03:39 PM Re: Semi-auto ban DEAD? [Re: NcWhitetail]
jarheadhunter Offline
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I wouldn't be surprised if they are just playing this off then slipping something in at the last minute.
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#2465681 - 03/19/13 03:39 PM Re: Semi-auto ban DEAD? [Re: NcWhitetail]
dishguy Offline
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Registered: 10/25/10
Posts: 134
Loc: western NC
"helping authorities prosecute illegal gun traffickers. "

now thats funny.haha they gonna prosecute our own government? how many guns have they "trafficked" to other countries?

Its not like they armed our enemys.


Edited by dishguy (03/19/13 03:42 PM)

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#2465688 - 03/19/13 03:45 PM Re: Semi-auto ban DEAD? [Re: NcWhitetail]
RJM Acres Offline
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Registered: 10/07/09
Posts: 3743
Loc: Ozarks
Bet feinstein is throwing a tantrum today.

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#2465689 - 03/19/13 03:46 PM Re: Semi-auto ban DEAD? [Re: NcWhitetail]
pukindog Offline
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Registered: 01/07/08
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Loc: TN
Just watch out for the "common sense compromise" of universal background checks. Who needs an AWB that would take some guns now, when you can have what will in effect be registration that could evntually take them all.
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#2465694 - 03/19/13 03:55 PM Re: Semi-auto ban DEAD? [Re: NcWhitetail]
Shurshot Offline
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Registered: 06/23/12
Posts: 1276
Loc: Ohio
I think we may have won the battle, but the war has just begun.

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#2465702 - 03/19/13 04:07 PM Re: Semi-auto ban DEAD? [Re: Shurshot]
Weatherby243 Offline
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Registered: 01/11/08
Posts: 272
Loc: western pa
Originally Posted By: Shurshot
I think we may have won the battle, but the war has just begun.

Exactly

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#2465712 - 03/19/13 04:25 PM Re: Semi-auto ban DEAD? [Re: NcWhitetail]
elks Offline
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Registered: 02/28/03
Posts: 3243
Loc: Central WY
They only did it so that they have a better chance at passing the rest...
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#2465729 - 03/19/13 04:46 PM Re: Semi-auto ban DEAD? [Re: pukindog]
Rbreb13 Offline
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Registered: 03/12/13
Posts: 280
Loc: Mid Missouri
Originally Posted By: pukindog
Just watch out for the "common sense compromise" of universal background checks. Who needs an AWB that would take some guns now, when you can have what will in effect be registration that could evntually take them all.


I'll agree with that!
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#2465735 - 03/19/13 05:03 PM Re: Semi-auto ban DEAD? [Re: NcWhitetail]
BroncoGlenn Offline
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Registered: 03/16/02
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Loc: Henderson, Nevada
Some more from AP: [http://m.apnews.com/ap/pm_5071/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=ESbBUDc8]

Quote:

Assault weapons ban won't be in Dems' gun bill

WASHINGTON (AP) - Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid has decided that a proposed assault weapons ban won't be part of a gun control bill the Senate plans to debate next month, the sponsor of the ban said Tuesday, a decision that means the ban stands little chance of survival.

Instead, Sen. Dianne Feinstein said she will be able to offer her ban on the military-style firearms as an amendment. Feinstein is all but certain to need 60 votes from the 100-member Senate to prevail, but she faces solid Republican opposition and likely defections from some moderate Democrats.

"I very much regret it," Feinstein, D-Calif., told reporters of Reid's decision. "I tried my best."

Asked about the decision, Reid, D-Nev., said he wanted to bring a gun bill to the full Senate that would have enough support to overcome any GOP attempts to prevent debate from even starting.

He said that "using the most optimistic numbers," there were less than 40 votes for Feinstein's ban. That is far less than the 60 votes needed to begin considering legislation, and an indication that Reid feared that including the assault weapons ban in the main guns bill would risk getting the votes needed to begin debate.

"I'm not going to try to put something on the floor that won't succeed. I want something that will succeed. I think the worst of all worlds would be to bring to something to the floor and it dies there," Reid said.

Feinstein, an author of the 1994 assault weapons ban that expired after a decade, said that Reid told her of the decision on Monday.

There are 53 Democrats in the Senate, plus two independents who usually vote with them.

An assault-type weapon was used in the December massacre at an elementary school in Newtown, Conn., that revived gun control as a top issue in Washington. Banning those firearms was among the proposals President Barack Obama made in January in response to those slayings.

The assault weapons ban was the most controversial of the major proposals to restrict guns that have been advanced by Obama and Senate Democrats. Because of that, it had been expected that the assault weapons measure would be left out of the initial package the Senate considers, with Democrats hoping the Senate could therefore amass the strongest possible vote for the overall legislation.

Having a separate vote on assault weapons might free moderate Democratic senators facing re-election next year in Republican-leaning states to vote against the assault weapons measure, but then support the remaining overall package of gun curbs.

Gun control supporters consider a strong Senate vote important because the Republican-run House has shown little enthusiasm for most of Obama's proposals.

Feinstein said Reid told her there will be two votes.

One would be on her assault weapons ban, which also includes a ban on ammunition magazines that carry more than 10 rounds of ammunition. The second would just be on prohibiting the high-capacity magazine clips.

Many Democrats think the ban on large-capacity magazines has a better chance of getting 60 votes than the assault weapons ban.

The Senate Judiciary Committee has approved four gun control measures this month, including Feinstein's barring assault weapons and high capacity magazines. The others would expand required federal background checks for firearms buyers, increase federal penalties for illegal gun trafficking and boost school safety money.



Edited by BroncoGlenn (03/19/13 05:04 PM)
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#2465738 - 03/19/13 05:05 PM Re: Semi-auto ban DEAD? [Re: NcWhitetail]
BroncoGlenn Offline
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Just to clarify though, the magazine capacity ban is still on the table, however. So we need to still get that shut down, as well as requirements for private party background checks.
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