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#1231540 - 02/25/09 10:56 PM ANTI Predator Hunting WEB Site
Jeff Mock Offline
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Registered: 09/01/01
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Loc: Manchester, MI
Do yourself a favor and click the link.

The only way to become educated as to what the ANTI'S are doing and thinking, is to check them out!

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#1231541 - 02/25/09 11:36 PM Re: ANTI Predator Hunting WEB Site [Re: Jeff Mock]
IDBob Offline
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Registered: 01/07/07
Posts: 4988
Loc: Peck Idaho
They don't mention anything about the depredation predators do on both domestic stock and deer and elk do they. Don't see them nursing orphaned deer and elk back to health and releasing them to the wild.

The wolves released here in Idaho have now reduced some of our elk herds to the point where there are not enough to reproduce viable herds.
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#1231542 - 02/26/09 08:33 AM Re: ANTI Predator Hunting WEB Site [Re: IDBob]
PrairieMuffin Offline
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Registered: 01/08/09
Posts: 948
Loc:
Working with international and local authorities to control birds of prey, deer, coyotes, and foxes without killing them. Over time finding suitable release sites for rehabilitated animals became increasingly difficult and public management policies were failing to protect predators and their habitat. The rampant use of predator control methods such as leg hold traps, poisons, snares, aerial gunning, bounties, and designated hunting seasons was profoundly impacting existing populations and undermining the second chance for rehabilitated animals. In 1995 the organization closed the rehabilitation center.


LET ME SEE IF I GOT THIS..they are complaining because the animals are over populated and have no place to put them?


Guess they need to leave it to the professionals...

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#1231543 - 04/20/09 01:45 AM Re: ANTI Predator Hunting WEB Site [Re: IDBob]
kodiak61 Offline
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Registered: 07/22/07
Posts: 777
Loc: Goldendale, Washington
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They don't mention anything about the depredation predators do on both domestic stock and deer and elk do they. Don't see them nursing orphaned deer and elk back to health and releasing them to the wild.

The wolves released here in Idaho have now reduced some of our elk herds to the point where there are not enough to reproduce viable herds.




Actually they do, its a pdf link on that coyote page.

http://www.predatordefense.org/docs/coyotes_letter_Dr_Crabtree_11-04-97.pdf


Seems Dr Crabtree has studies a coyote or two. What they mention that it is our fault because with the death of so many coyotes they are forced to try new food groups. Thus leading to them attaching large game and livestock animals which is something that they wouldn't normally do I guess.

Blah blah blah. Decent read though had some good information that I will use to up my game while hunting them.
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#1231544 - 04/20/09 03:52 AM Re: ANTI Predator Hunting WEB Site [Re: kodiak61]
Javafour Offline
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Registered: 02/13/05
Posts: 6186
Loc: Kirkland, WA
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...Blah blah blah. Decent read though had some good information that I will use to up my game while hunting them.




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#1231545 - 04/20/09 06:47 AM Re: ANTI Predator Hunting WEB Site [Re: Javafour]
lorddal Offline
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Registered: 01/08/08
Posts: 48
Loc: marlinton WV
I love this one

Quote:Do coyotes kill for fun?

No. Coyotes only kill enough to feel themselves and their pups, usually killing only one animal for their needs. Domestic dogs, however will often kill many animals at once, such as chickens and sheep; the deaths are often blamed on coyotes.

yeah right what a load my brother and I watched a yote kill several sheep at once only reason he lived that day was we weren't carrying because it was Sunday and then you couldn't hunt on Sundays did that yote eat all the sheep no just killed and left

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#1231546 - 04/22/09 02:41 AM Re: ANTI Predator Hunting WEB Site [Re: lorddal]
blueline1911 Offline
Seasoned Member

Registered: 08/30/08
Posts: 129
Loc: Vermont
Install a 6 foot fence with overhang? Install outdoor lighting?

Seems like an awful lot of trouble. Maybe wolves should be introduced across the entire range of coyote inhabited area, even the non-native 1/3 of the continent. Then the coyote population will be in check, by gosh.

But then again, since they only kill what they NEED, and they are stunning, intelligent, playful, affectionate and devoted care givers, I'll trade in my Akita for a few pet coyotes.

Is there really anything that these people can't justify?


Edited by blueline1911 (04/22/09 02:42 AM)

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#1231547 - 05/07/09 06:40 PM Re: ANTI Predator Hunting WEB Site [Re: blueline1911]
idahovarmintcaller Offline
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Registered: 11/26/08
Posts: 278
Loc: South West Idaho
Yeah, their miserable existance.

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#1334066 - 07/25/09 02:15 PM Re: ANTI Predator Hunting WEB Site [Re: idahovarmintcaller]
TribalJake Offline
Predator Master

Registered: 08/28/08
Posts: 53
Loc: Owings Mills, MD/Kirkland, WA
i actually sent them an email talking about habitat capacity and what i do (hunt predators)

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#1411245 - 11/09/09 06:41 PM Re: ANTI Predator Hunting WEB Site [Re: TribalJake]
agentM192 Offline
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Registered: 08/24/09
Posts: 74
Loc: Central Texas, Westchester NY
Gotta love how they call coyotes affectionate. Then why are there known reports of them stalking and even attacking humans?

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#1423136 - 11/24/09 10:20 AM Re: ANTI Predator Hunting WEB Site [Re: TribalJake]
WebbyAr15 Offline
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Registered: 11/19/09
Posts: 91
Loc: Indiana
Originally Posted By: TribalJake
i actually sent them an email talking about habitat capacity and what i do (hunt predators)



Did you get a reply back? I was going to do the same thing when I got home.

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#1455799 - 12/24/09 02:40 PM Re: ANTI Predator Hunting WEB Site [Re: WebbyAr15]
alhefner Offline
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Registered: 12/29/07
Posts: 489
Loc: Reno, Nevada
These guys seem to have confused the coyote with the wolf!!!

Quote:
Coyotes are pack animals with a social structure similar to wolves. Packs consist of a dominant male and female (alpha pair), and extended family members (betas and omegas). Typically, only the alpha pair breeds, and produces one litter a year.


Unless I am very mistaken, the breeding of coyotes is more inline with domestic dog...as much and as often with any and all opportunities.

As for family groups, those only last about a year before the yearlings are sent on their way.

Once again, a group of essentially ignorant, emotional, unteachable folks trying to lead others into the same mindset.
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#1455847 - 12/24/09 03:23 PM Re: ANTI Predator Hunting WEB Site [Re: alhefner]
deerhunterjj Offline
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Registered: 08/09/08
Posts: 2095
Loc: Eldorado,kansas
I have seen things smarter floating in the john. thes guys make me sick. I wish they would open a season for morons. If they did man we better get lots of ammo.
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#1455858 - 12/24/09 03:36 PM Re: ANTI Predator Hunting WEB Site [Re: blueline1911]
Outlawkyote Offline
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Registered: 12/08/09
Posts: 361
Loc: hiding in sagebrush
Originally Posted By: blueline1911
Install a 6 foot fence with overhang? Install outdoor lighting?



Is there really anything that these people can't justify?


I wonder if they would help me purchase a fence like this around my ranch. Its 80 sections total. Of course, how do I get the existing coyotes off my land after the fence is up?
These people think coyotes are coming from some invisable place and going back when they are done eating. These coyotes they are talking about live here 24/7, how do I fence them out?

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#1672264 - 09/12/10 06:57 PM Re: ANTI Predator Hunting WEB Site [Re: Outlawkyote]
foxsmasher Offline
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Registered: 02/02/10
Posts: 202
Loc: Utah
MORONS! These people are absolute idiots. The writings on their websites show that with 100% positivity!
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