#1669930 - 09/09/10 11:31 AM
Re: How many use scent eliminator??
[Re: Terminator]
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Registered: 04/21/01
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Loc: Missouri
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I also am a Trapper here in Ga. My target animal is yotes but I also catch foxes, coons, grinners....illegal aliens, you know.....order some coyote urine from a trapping supply house like Minnesota Trapping Supply or F&T. Spray some about 40 yards on each side downwind of your setup........I agree with JB, a canine's nose can be fooled.... If you understand a canines nose you know the coyote can smell you right along and through the cover scent. BTW, how many sides do you have downwind?
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#1669931 - 09/09/10 11:32 AM
Re: How many use scent eliminator??
[Re: Terminator]
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Registered: 09/30/06
Posts: 400
Loc: Bradford, Pa.
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OK, i did some research.I found a site full of court cases that say the dog didn't find the drugs,he was comanded by his trainer/handler to sound off.According to this,the majority of drug sniffing dogs are useless at finding drugs.The dogs are used as a means of being able to search a bag or vehicle.When they bark or react or whatever,the officer has the right to search.Noone can question the dog,so noone knows why he barked.Video tape shows the dog reacting to a command,not scent.The site is...rexcurry.net/drugdogsmainr.html...
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#1669947 - 09/09/10 12:01 PM
Re: How many use scent eliminator??
[Re: jbmaster]
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Registered: 02/18/02
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Yeah, OK, you're correct. It's the dogs handlers that smell the dope. Dumb dog is just doing what it's told. If'n it makes ya feel better and boosts your confidence by spraying the stuff on ya, go for it.
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#1669956 - 09/09/10 12:19 PM
Re: How many use scent eliminator??
[Re: jbmaster]
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Die Hard Member II
Registered: 08/31/06
Posts: 1144
Loc: MT
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I thought you said you did reasearch? That isn't exactly what I'd rely on as a reputable source. I do like the part where he rails out against the Pledge of Allegiance. It lends an air of credibility to the rest of his information. Looking up one website hardly constitutes research. Everybody is an expert on the internet.
Court decisions say nothing about the falibility/infalibility of the canine sense of smell. It's simply an opinion based on the presentation of evidence. Or excluding evidence based on how it was obtained or handled. If a K9 hadn't smelled the drugs the case wouldn't be in court in the first place.
The smell of a human walking through an area and a human being in an area are two completely different things. By your logic wary coyotes would be corraled in by the paths of every person that walked through an area without scent eliminator.
Buy all of that crap you want. It's great for game hunting, but that expensive perfume is wasted on a coyotes nose.
Nate
BTW The whole dog reacting to a command thing is propaganda at its finest. K9 handlers are constantly giving commands throughout a search. The dog just does the sniffing, the handler leads the search.
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#1669969 - 09/09/10 12:37 PM
Re: How many use scent eliminator??
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Die Hard Member
Registered: 11/29/09
Posts: 765
Loc: Indiana
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The only way to eliminate human sent is by not being there.
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#1670003 - 09/09/10 01:16 PM
Re: How many use scent eliminator??
[Re: howling]
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Registered: 04/21/01
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Loc: Missouri
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jb, Credibility counts friend... and that garbage isn't credible. Though I am not a canine handler, I am "in the business" per say. I've trained with canines, put on the bite suit and let them put the crunch on me, hidden drugs and tried to mask the scent of drugs to fool the dog in training exercises, and I have used them in the field for drug interdiction work. I have arrested hundreds, probably thousands, of people for drugs of various kinds. I've seen real dopers try about everything you can imagine to hide the scent of their product from police canines - they went to jail - it seldom worked. I won't claim the dogs are infallible however they're pretty danged good. And I gotta believe a wild canine is better yet. A spritzing or even a hosing down of scent eliminator isn't a magic wand. Scent blocker clothing lost a major lawsuit in which it was proven their product didn't work as advertised. It's just smoke and mirrors and can't prevent a bumbler from screwing up a stand because of poor choices. Nothing beats pure woodsmanship.
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#1670820 - 09/10/10 05:18 PM
Re: How many use scent eliminator??
[Re: GC]
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Registered: 08/20/10
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#1671010 - 09/10/10 09:03 PM
Re: How many use scent eliminator??
[Re: pelletmaker]
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Registered: 04/21/01
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Loc: Missouri
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Navy beans = methane gas... toilet humor.
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#1671356 - 09/11/10 12:45 PM
Re: How many use scent eliminator??
[Re: GC]
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Registered: 03/19/10
Posts: 1855
Loc: Washington
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+1 w/GC......woodsmanship. That yote im holding up in my avitar pic was my first yote. He came from down wind, 20yds to my right. I had no scent block on. Just what mother nature offers. I have since killed three more using the same tactics, one from down wind. I hunt deer the same way and I do just fine. When I first started hunting White Tail back east, we used to use doe urine on vegetation to attract the bucks but did nothing with our hunting clothes except to keep them outside, in a bag full of leaves, berries, apples and such. I have watched many a hunter spray that stuff all over them when they get out of their car and go for a walk in the woods. I have actually watched a doe, follow their tracks for a bit in the snow and then bolt.........once again, just my $.02
Edited by Powerfisher (09/11/10 05:05 PM)
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#1672055 - 09/12/10 01:26 PM
Re: How many use scent eliminator??
[Re: Powerfisher]
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Registered: 01/08/03
Posts: 8885
Loc: Hickville
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I heard through some LEO friends that there is something that will mask the dope's scent.
Home Security confiscated the product and threatened the owners...it's real hush hush.
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#1672184 - 09/12/10 05:12 PM
Re: How many use scent eliminator??
[Re: ackleyman]
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Registered: 04/21/01
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Loc: Missouri
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I heard through some LEO friends that there is something that will mask the dope's scent.
Home Security confiscated the product and threatened the owners...it's real hush hush.
I don't believe it, rumors... For sure it isn't scent eliminator spray, that's been around for years and is still available - if you want it.
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#1673360 - 09/14/10 05:58 AM
Re: How many use scent eliminator??
[Re: GC]
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Registered: 06/27/10
Posts: 302
Loc: Ga
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I use baking soda mixed with water and sprayed on....seems to work well for me.......
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#1673419 - 09/14/10 09:11 AM
Re: How many use scent eliminator??
[Re: Terminator]
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Registered: 04/21/01
Posts: 17233
Loc: Missouri
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Terminator, Glad it is working for you. Understand that to a coyote you smell exactly like a human with a mixture of baking soda and water sprayed on him. With that in mind, watch the wind... 
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#1673450 - 09/14/10 10:08 AM
Re: How many use scent eliminator??
[Re: GC]
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Registered: 06/27/10
Posts: 302
Loc: Ga
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well, I haven't had deer spook on it...
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#1673455 - 09/14/10 10:15 AM
Re: How many use scent eliminator??
[Re: Terminator]
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Registered: 04/21/01
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Loc: Missouri
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Once again... coyotes aren't deer. Coyotes are sharper than that and some baking soda spritz isn't going to mask your odor from a sharp nosed coyote. But the good news is - deer taste better so by all means carry on - lol! 
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