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#1429600 - 12/01/09 12:37 PM How To: Camo Netting Rifle Camo.
t/c223encore Offline
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I was asked to post how I wrapped my Encore with camo netting so here it is.

Start with the muzzle and attach a strip of camo netting 6-8 inches wide and 10 feet long with a small zip tie.



Wrap the netting back over the zip tie to hide it and wrap the barrel twards the scope. When you get to the scope you may or may not have to do a couple wraps around the whole rifle and and Scope as one.

After that do figure 8's around the scope and rifle crossing between the scope and rifle.



Stop wrapping where you put your hand on the stock by wrapping a hands witdh section around the scope only. Don't worry about the unwrapped part of the rifle cause your camo gloved hand takes care of that part.

Finish by wrapping only the scope till you get to the Power adjustment ring and secure the end of the netting woth another zip tie.



I used a little bigger zip tie on the rear of the scope to pull hard on the zip tie. Clip off the tag ends of the zip ties. For the one on the scope you can clip the tag end off and then rotate it the same direction you wraped the camo netting the get the square part under the bottom of the scope so it's out of the way.

For the Butt Stock cut another section of netting about as wide as the stock. Make it long enough to do 2 or 3 wraps around the stock. This gets held in place by the shell holder (I use a wristband type shell holder) This makes it alot easier to put over the camo netting than a regular slide on shell holder.



When your done your rifle should look something like this. I also used a couple smaller shorter strips and zip ties for the Bipod Legs.

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When it snows I just add some snow camo netting directly over the green camo netting with one layer only, allowing some if the green to show through. Use zip ties on each end of the snow camo netting to hold it. When the snow melts just clip the zip ties that hold the snow camo netting in place and take it back off. This makes it realy easy to adjust your rifle camo to the outside world.



t/c223encore.




Edited by t/c223encore (12/01/09 05:35 PM)
Edit Reason: To Add Snow Camo Option

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#1429637 - 12/01/09 01:26 PM Re: How To: Camo Netting Rifle Camo. [Re: t/c223encore]
champ198 Offline
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Where did you get the netting at...thats what i need to do with mine

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#1429700 - 12/01/09 03:08 PM Re: How To: Camo Netting Rifle Camo. [Re: champ198]
t/c223encore Offline
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I got the camo netting at Cabelas. My thoughts on this method of rifle camo came from two things, first I just couldn't bring myself to paint my rifle and second was that it is said 3D leafy type camo is more effective due to the fact that it has depth and shadow and a jagged edge outline to break it up even more.

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#1429721 - 12/01/09 04:04 PM Re: How To: Camo Netting Rifle Camo. [Re: t/c223encore]
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Agreed i jsut cant bring myself to paint my rifles...i see a lot that look great but i cant bring myself to do it

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#1429734 - 12/01/09 04:29 PM Re: How To: Camo Netting Rifle Camo. [Re: champ198]
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That DOES look good!

Thanks for the tutorial. I think I'll do that to my .204 when I get it.

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#1429778 - 12/01/09 05:41 PM Re: How To: Camo Netting Rifle Camo. [Re: cornstalker]
t/c223encore Offline
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Your welcome. I wanted to put an option out there for other people that can't bring themselves to paint thier rifles either.

t/c223encore.

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#1429815 - 12/01/09 06:19 PM Re: How To: Camo Netting Rifle Camo. [Re: t/c223encore]
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That type camo netting is made by Camo Systems. The cheapest way to buy it is as a ground blind. That's enough to do several rifles (10 feet long by 38 inches).

Ground blind pic

There's a dealer locator on their page.

Home page
I got mine from Midway, but they only have one pattern now. I liked the sage (for sage hunting), but they have a bunch of patterns.

Here's their online catalog.

Catalog in pdf




I agree with t/c223encore, the depth and irregular edges makes it more effective than a paint job, and it's not "permanent". I built a ghillie out of 2 ground blinds, even. Shows what you can do with zip ties and some imagination.


I used the wrap technique on the monopod I built, too. You can see how it "disrupts" the straight lines.


Edited by Evil_Lurker (12/01/09 06:26 PM)
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#1429843 - 12/01/09 06:51 PM Re: How To: Camo Netting Rifle Camo. [Re: Evil_Lurker]
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would hate four that stuff to get in the way of a scope or action. probaly works good when its fresh, but after a day of in and out of the back seat or case, seems like it would fall apart.in my pred. hunting exp. its the human outline(which is takin care of via ghillies) and the shine of equip. that hinders sucess. paint it or tape it and head out! visit centralazfirearms.com, my friend does the best duracoat work in the region.
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#1430224 - 12/01/09 11:22 PM Re: How To: Camo Netting Rifle Camo. [Re: shanedogg]
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Shanedogg, does this look like it gets in the way of the scope?



I don't appreciate you hijaking my thread to advertise your friends business.

Can it come off? Yes, thats the point, you get effective camo that can be removed when needed. I'm sure people are smart enough to realize it can come undone so be careful with it.

t/c223encore.


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#1430345 - 12/02/09 07:18 AM Re: How To: Camo Netting Rifle Camo. [Re: t/c223encore]
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this is REALLY cool! thanks for posting this! i might just have to give it a shot!

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#1430611 - 12/02/09 01:12 PM Re: How To: Camo Netting Rifle Camo. [Re: bamayote23]
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I'm def. going to be doing that this winter. Thanks for the post!

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#1432771 - 12/04/09 02:00 PM Re: How To: Camo Netting Rifle Camo. [Re: WebbyAr15]
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I would like to ask anyone doing this to go ahead and post a pic in this thread. I'd really like to see your camo netted rifles. Don't have the be an Encore, With a little adustment I expect it can work on any rifle. Thanks.

Shanedogg. if you read this I would like to apologize for comming off so aggresive. Since your relatively new I just want to say the intention of instructional posts are to teach people how to use your methods if they so choose, not for someone to come in and dispute it. Again I apologize for being aggresive.

t/c223encore.

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#1437646 - 12/09/09 12:09 AM Re: How To: Camo Netting Rifle Camo. [Re: t/c223encore]
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T/C,
I really like this. Im not afraid to paint my rifles, but I will still use this for a winter snow camo.. Thank you

By the way it takes quite a bit of obstruction infront of a scope to adversly affect it.Try this: take a soda cap and sit it inside of the objective bell of your scope. now look through your scope I bet that you cant even tell that the soda cap is there(unless the scope is tiny and the cap fills the whole lens).

Once again thank you for the great idea..


Edited by Whiteknuckle (12/09/09 12:10 AM)
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#1441799 - 12/12/09 10:43 PM Re: How To: Camo Netting Rifle Camo. [Re: BoondockOutdoors]
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I am going to have to try that on my 22 mag. I have some of the snow camo net from last year. That would be perfect to cover the current camo. I did paint the stock green and some brown, but now we have snow. I have been using white vet wrap in the winter. I really like the 3D of the netting. I will try combining the two tomorrow AM and try to post some pics. Thanks TC223.

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#1442138 - 12/13/09 12:22 PM Re: How To: Camo Netting Rifle Camo. [Re: 2Gunner]
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Wow, thanks for the info TC223Encore. That was easy and should be effective. I will be trying it out tonight. This is how it started...






In process:


Finished:




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#1442223 - 12/13/09 01:50 PM Re: How To: Camo Netting Rifle Camo. [Re: 2Gunner]
t/c223encore Offline
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Looks Good 2Gunner. I used to use Vet Wrap in the winter too, but as anyone who's had any on thier rifle for a period of time knows Vet Wrap is not truly reusable, Camo Netting is.

t/c223encore.

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#1442295 - 12/13/09 03:19 PM Re: How To: Camo Netting Rifle Camo. [Re: t/c223encore]
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Thanks. Your right about the vet wrap not being reusable. Fortunatly its cheap.

I am thinking of getting carried away and trying the netting on my AR tonight, just to see.

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#1443105 - 12/14/09 03:48 AM Re: How To: Camo Netting Rifle Camo. [Re: 2Gunner]
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See? That's gonna work great, and it breaks up the outline better than any paint job would.

Next spring, 5 minutes and you're back to summer camo.
If you get some 8 inch or longer zip-ties you could wrap that tight around your scope objective without having it shift.
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#1457397 - 12/25/09 09:25 PM Re: How To: Camo Netting Rifle Camo. [Re: Evil_Lurker]
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Just look in your closet and find an old camo t shirt. Cut it into strips will do the same thing
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#1469096 - 01/03/10 02:38 PM Re: How To: Camo Netting Rifle Camo. [Re: NoPeta]
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These all look great!! But what happens to your point of impact with all of this touching the barrel. Has any one checked this out. I've been even leery of vet wrap on my barrel, as many times the shots are over 300 YRD'S where I hunt.

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#1470337 - 01/04/10 10:41 AM Re: How To: Camo Netting Rifle Camo. [Re: Rifleman2]
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There is no noticable change in POI.

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#1488528 - 01/18/10 03:44 PM Re: How To: Camo Netting Rifle Camo. [Re: Rifleman2]
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That turned out real nice,For snow camo this year I took a couple old white t shirts and cut it in to small strips and wraped around my 204 and it didnt turn out to bad .Kinda looks like the netting.
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#1491884 - 01/20/10 09:13 PM Re: How To: Camo Netting Rifle Camo. [Re: Rifleman2]
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I like the camo tape, it can come off with no residue

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#1492488 - 01/21/10 11:09 AM Re: How To: Camo Netting Rifle Camo. [Re: Cliftonyte]
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mt boy, Thanks. I liked how it came out as well.

www.clifton, I have done the Vet Wrap in the past. Thats what got me to move on to camo netting. Didn't like that I would have to keep buying it to keep my rifle camo'd over time. Camo netting you only buy once.

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#1493894 - 01/22/10 11:39 AM Re: How To: Camo Netting Rifle Camo. [Re: t/c223encore]
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Thanks for the post TC, definitely gonna try this on a few of my rifles

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#1494002 - 01/22/10 01:02 PM Re: How To: Camo Netting Rifle Camo. [Re: rcates]
t/c223encore Offline
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Your Welcome. This post is for those like me that just can't paint thier rifle. In the past I have had my Encore dismantled cleaned and taped up twice and I just couldn't do it.

t/c223encore.

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#1499413 - 01/26/10 01:25 PM Re: How To: Camo Netting Rifle Camo. [Re: Rifleman2]
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Man what a cool thread, thanks for the tips guy's.
Heck of a good idea.
I can't wait to do my AR10.
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#1604749 - 05/22/10 12:54 AM Re: How To: Camo Netting Rifle Camo. [Re: t/c223encore]
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i know everyone said this before me but im gonna try! i dont want to mess up $1500 in gun and scope trying to paint it and my summer time coyote gear is 3D camo so it will match. but if you dont mind me asking where can i get that butt stock shell holder?
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#1604950 - 05/22/10 01:19 PM Re: How To: Camo Netting Rifle Camo. [Re: the noobie]
t/c223encore Offline
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I got it at sportsmans warehouse. All it is is a 6 round wristband shell holder.

t/c223encore.

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#1683100 - 09/28/10 09:53 PM Re: How To: Camo Netting Rifle Camo. [Re: t/c223encore]
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Your Wifes old nylon stockings work great also. I put a tan stocking on the barrel with Velcro at the end of the barrel to hold it on, and Velcro at the chamber end to hold the stocking on, and then use a black and tan together and bunch them up on the stock of my 6ppc BR rig that has a nice paint job. Now my 6ppc Rig can do double duty.

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#1697372 - 10/18/10 12:54 PM Re: How To: Camo Netting Rifle Camo. [Re: Rifleman2]
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The harmonics or vibration changes should be minimal since you are not applying a "preload"tension to the barrel or applying a hard point contact between the barrel and forarm.

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#1800668 - 01/17/11 05:20 PM Re: How To: Camo Netting Rifle Camo. [Re: SSG RED]
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Has anyone tried wrapping a white stocking around their gun? Any photos?

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#1804313 - 01/19/11 05:02 PM Re: How To: Camo Netting Rifle Camo. [Re: ElkDog]
t/c223encore Offline
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I heard of guys using girls white tights before, taped it on.

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#1820844 - 01/30/11 09:52 AM Re: How To: Camo Netting Rifle Camo. [Re: Rifleman2]
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Looking good guys
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#1836621 - 02/09/11 01:54 PM Re: How To: Camo Netting Rifle Camo. [Re: WvYotehunter65]
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Go to Walmart get ya self a cheap bicycle tire innertube Cut the tube in 1/2 inch pieces (circles) so it looks like a 1/2 elastic put your favorite camo color on your barrel , gun what ever you want to camo use the pieces of innertube to hold on place keeps everything tight... ive been using this practice for years dont scratch your firearm and works very well....also works on call's , and just about everything that needs to be cammo'd up.....
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#1887144 - 03/25/11 02:26 PM Re: How To: Camo Netting Rifle Camo. [Re: Rifleman2]
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Good looking camo.

I use camo form wrap and at 100-200 yards there is little if any difference in group size and zero. Past that Im not sure.


Edited by gknutson (03/25/11 02:27 PM)
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#1900509 - 04/12/11 05:02 PM Re: How To: Camo Netting Rifle Camo. [Re: Rifleman2]
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Originally Posted By: Rifleman2
These all look great!! But what happens to your point of impact with all of this touching the barrel. Has any one checked this out. I've been even leery of vet wrap on my barrel, as many times the shots are over 300 YRD'S where I hunt.


If most of my shots were over 300 yds I don't figure I'd be worrying about breaking up the outline of my weapon.

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#2044644 - 11/15/11 06:56 PM Re: How To: Camo Netting Rifle Camo. [Re: fr3db3ar]
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that's cool

however I have called coyotes in while wearing street cloths and packing a bright shiny silver rifle.
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#2060545 - 12/02/11 08:10 PM Re: How To: Camo Netting Rifle Camo. [Re: odawgp]
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can you just buy the cheap camo netting from academy, spray paint it to the colors you want if need be, then cut strips to wrap your gun with? do yall prefer this over something like mcnett camo gun wrap?

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#2113973 - 01/15/12 10:53 PM Re: How To: Camo Netting Rifle Camo. [Re: Rifleman2]
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Rifleman2...


These all look great !! But what happens to your point of impact with all of this touching the barrel ?????

Nothing At All...There is not enough pressure just from the camo netting weight to change anything....
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#2149025 - 02/12/12 09:10 PM Re: How To: Camo Netting Rifle Camo. [Re: cyotekler]
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I didn't want to paint mine either so i just made a camo sock (felt camo)to fit over the pointy end. When i get around to it i will try to make something that fits further down the barrel and covers the scope. But this at least keeps the most shiny part covered.

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#2247887 - 07/10/12 10:43 PM Re: How To: Camo Netting Rifle Camo. [Re: Rifleman2]
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Rifleman2,
Noticed you indicated you often shoot 300 yds, I doubt you would need cmo when shooting out past 200 yards. Coyotes (if that's what you're hunting)seem to be pretty curious and aren't going to immediately scamper away. And as far as camo is concerned, if you're a spot and stalk guy, the rifle's always behind you (slung) and out of sight.
I used to be very concerned with camoing and tried all the tricks. Now, as long as I am in all white or drab colors, I'm not much concerned with what the rifle looks like. And when I'm down to shoot, all the animal is going to see is two small black spots in the distance (objective lens and tiny muzzle). In the event you might question, "What does this guy know, anyway?", might add over 42 years I've taken just over 2600 coyotes here in Western Montana (good record keeping). Probably 200 of them calling and the rest spot and stalk. Mike

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#2266771 - 08/10/12 09:10 PM Re: How To: Camo Netting Rifle Camo. [Re: t/c223encore]
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just tried this on my re 700 in 204 cal...worked just great...

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#2460837 - 03/13/13 08:29 PM Re: How To: Camo Netting Rifle Camo. [Re: t/c223encore]
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great idea's guys, will have to try some of these

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#2547526 - 09/23/13 07:15 PM Re: How To: Camo Netting Rifle Camo. [Re: t/c223encore]
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Non-stick vet wrap, you don't want the sticky residue left behind.
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#2549909 - 09/29/13 05:23 PM Re: How To: Camo Netting Rifle Camo. [Re: t/c223encore]
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You can go to the fabric store or fabric dept of a walmart and buy a couple of yards of burlap. They even have camo burlap. Cut it into thin pieces and wrap it around the gun, scope, and stock. Even when it starts to fray it will only add to the break up. Not to mention that the fabric is cheap.

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#2606505 - 01/06/14 09:38 AM Re: How To: Camo Netting Rifle Camo. [Re: t/c223encore]
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My first attempt. Had no idea on the pattern I wanted.




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#2606560 - 01/06/14 10:56 AM Re: How To: Camo Netting Rifle Camo. [Re: t/c223encore]
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looks awesome.......great work! thumbup1

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#2607246 - 01/07/14 02:44 AM Re: How To: Camo Netting Rifle Camo. [Re: t/c223encore]
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Just realized I clicked the wrong thread. Can my previous post be moved to the sponge tutorial?

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#2736337 - 10/28/14 04:41 PM Re: How To: Camo Netting Rifle Camo. [Re: t/c223encore]
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Pretty simple but very effective
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#2881212 - 11/10/15 07:19 PM Re: How To: Camo Netting Rifle Camo. [Re: champ198]
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Originally Posted By: champ198
Agreed i jsut cant bring myself to paint my rifles...i see a lot that look great but i cant bring myself to do it


Shhh, that ruins your excuse to buy more guns tongue_smilie

I actually really like this idea and I think I might do this seeing as how my coyote shotgun is the same as my deer and grouse shotgun. I would would have to tinker with it a little bit though to make sure it doesnt obstruct my iron sights.

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#2908118 - 01/06/16 03:27 PM Re: How To: Camo Netting Rifle Camo. [Re: t/c223encore]
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They sell Camo sleeves, that you can slip the whole Rifle or Shotgun into & cut out what you dont need. they work great also

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#3182542 - 01/02/19 10:22 PM Re: How To: Camo Netting Rifle Camo. [Re: t/c223encore]
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That really looks great , One thing I wonder about with the wrap touching the gun barrel, Will it hold and promote rust more quickly . Or do you remove after every hunt.
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#3250803 - 08/21/20 03:12 PM Re: How To: Camo Netting Rifle Camo. [Re: t/c223encore]
varmit_master Offline
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Registered: 12/31/02
Posts: 1947
Loc: ARKANSAS
I bought a tc venture predator rifle its camo . But my scope isnt. So I bought some vanish protective camo wrap mossy oak . It works good. I wrapped my scope. Looks good just didnt know if I could paint my scope to match my gun. I would get my scope dipped if I find a good dip.

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