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#1355097 - 08/22/09 06:58 AM varget/benchmark
bluealtered Offline
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Registered: 01/03/07
Posts: 1973
Loc: out back oregon
I ran off a batch of .223's with varget the other day and after shooting 40-50 of them, it seems to shoot a little dirty'er than my loads with benchmark. Has anyone else been using varget with their .223, and how is it working for you? blue
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#1355104 - 08/22/09 07:44 AM Re: varget/benchmark [Re: bluealtered]
Dennyr Offline
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Registered: 01/09/07
Posts: 1074
Loc: South Texas
Been using Benchmark, Varget in my 223's for some time. Have not noticed it being any more dirty.

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#1355127 - 08/22/09 08:42 AM Re: varget/benchmark [Re: Dennyr]
hunterintheshadows Offline
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Registered: 01/04/04
Posts: 474
Loc: new york
i use the varget in my 22-250 243s. and the benchmark in my 223s. i will load some 223s with both and see what happens
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#1355195 - 08/22/09 11:04 AM Re: varget/benchmark [Re: hunterintheshadows]
Leadlobber Offline
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Registered: 11/11/06
Posts: 59
Loc: okieland
As a general rule I use Benchmark for bullet weights 55 and under 60 and over get Varget in .223 .

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#1355368 - 08/22/09 04:25 PM Re: varget/benchmark [Re: Leadlobber]
ackleyman Offline
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Registered: 01/08/03
Posts: 8885
Loc: Hickville
I went from shooting H335, Win 748, 322 to using benchmark in my 223 and could not believe how much dirtier it was than the other powders that I have been using for 20+ years.

You say that Varget is dirtier than Benchmark, eh?

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#1355398 - 08/22/09 05:20 PM Re: varget/benchmark [Re: ackleyman]
2muchgun Offline
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Registered: 01/18/05
Posts: 14660
Loc: Michigun
I have used all of the above. I just picked up 8 lbs. of TAC for my AR-15 a while back for the specific reason that it burns cleaner than ALL of them........
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#1355445 - 08/22/09 06:34 PM Re: varget/benchmark [Re: 2muchgun]
Yotecallr Offline
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Registered: 05/01/01
Posts: 2511
Loc: Central Iowa
It's a great powder for the .223. I just loaded 100 rounds this morning with it.
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#1355479 - 08/22/09 07:25 PM Re: varget/benchmark [Re: Yotecallr]
Orneryolfart357 Offline
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Registered: 10/06/07
Posts: 9053
Loc: Nevada
It always makes me wonder when I see Posts like.. " This is the Cleanest Powder". Its such a bold statement. Makes me wonder if the Rifle it is being shot in is using a different Primer? So to cast out theories like that, it must boil down to what the rest of the components are for that particular rifle? This is Kewl.. Now I know with regardless of anything else I use.. I now have the cleanest Powder! cool
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#1355623 - 08/22/09 10:22 PM Re: varget/benchmark [Re: ackleyman]
carvercalls Offline
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Registered: 07/27/06
Posts: 13783
Loc: Utah
Originally Posted By: ackleyman
I went from shooting H335, Win 748, 322 to using benchmark in my 223 and could not believe how much dirtier it was than the other powders that I have been using for 20+ years.

You say that Varget is dirtier than Benchmark, eh?


Yep I had the same experience!! It was extremely dirty in everything I tried it in..I got about 40 pounds i'd sell LOL
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#1355646 - 08/22/09 10:58 PM Re: varget/benchmark [Re: Orneryolfart357]
2muchgun Offline
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Registered: 01/18/05
Posts: 14660
Loc: Michigun
Bold statement from someone who has at least 30 different powders on hand and uses them all. TAC burns cleaner than ANY of the afforementioned powders. PERIOD. Don't ever start confusing me for one of the general public......... grin
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#1355654 - 08/22/09 11:11 PM Re: varget/benchmark [Re: 2muchgun]
huntnfish08 Offline
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Registered: 11/28/07
Posts: 342
Loc: Central Wisconsin
I don't have the experience between the powders but can say that I've only tried Benchmark in my 223. First loaded rounds got me shooting 5/8" once I found the charge my rifle likes. Shooting prone off a backpack. I don't shoot high volume so dirty is fine by me.

My word is by no means gospel, this is just my results. I like it!

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#1355659 - 08/22/09 11:17 PM Re: varget/benchmark [Re: huntnfish08]
2muchgun Offline
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Registered: 01/18/05
Posts: 14660
Loc: Michigun
H335 is still as good as it gets, really. TAC burns cleaner though. I have used them all........
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#1355796 - 08/23/09 09:31 AM Re: varget/benchmark [Re: 2muchgun]
bluealtered Offline
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Registered: 01/03/07
Posts: 1973
Loc: out back oregon
No i'm not saying varget is dirtier, it simply looked that way with that rifle, on the other hand that ar hadn't been out of the safe for a year either.

I guess that means i have to do a super clean between test rounds, that means i will just have to shoot more! rats! blue
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#1355799 - 08/23/09 09:39 AM Re: varget/benchmark [Re: bluealtered]
kelbro Offline
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Registered: 06/07/06
Posts: 1145
Loc: AZ
Primers, bullets, barrel length, etc... all affect whether a powder makes a barrel look clean or dirty.

Same rifle, same barrel, H335 is dirty with standard primers and clean with mag primers. W748 is dirty with 50gr bullets and clean with 75gr bullets.

I'm going to clean it anyway, what's another patch or two between friends?
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#1355983 - 08/23/09 02:06 PM Re: varget/benchmark [Re: kelbro]
unloaded Offline
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Registered: 12/03/06
Posts: 1905
Loc: SW Indiana
I usually worry more about how clean a powder shoots with handguns. The Ramshot powders do seem a bit cleaner burning to me too, even in pistol rounds. I hear the VV powders are really clean burning too but I've never tried any of them.

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