Good luck, knockem. You get a nice shark we wanna see some pics.

Well I haven't done as much as rpc. But I have been working with john1951 who is helping me get set up for night hunting. John is very knowledgeable in the area of electronics, and is a heckuva nice guy as well.

I'll be doing some more scouting, and putting up a few more stands in the hardwoods.

I have a couple of hooks for new properties, so that is looking good for now also.

I'll be getting my boys more into hunting this year too.

Aside from that, there is work and both my boys are in football. Time is limited, but the information on this thread has been, well, priceless.

Thanks for info.

I am guessing that your gun light is a red led as well?

I'm not sure if you are asking me or not....my gun mounted light has a red lens but is not LED.

I am looking into getting an LED headlamp though.

.

Nice Mako...

No my gun light is white. I don't turn it on until I'm ready to pull the trigger. At that point he's commited and now blinded by the burst of light. Think "deer in the headlights". Everywhere he looks, it's dark, except where he is standing. It gives me that extra second.....

I use the light to comfirm what I'm looking at only. Since he's so close, I need to know now with no error. By the movement I can tell it's a canine...but... is it a coyote or somebodys Lab?

We’ll, I’ll get the ball rolling back on daylight calling in hopes to keep this very interesting thread alive…

I know Sled said he only stays for about 10 minutes (except on 1st morning stands) and that seems to work for him. However, it has been my experience that one should absolutely stay 15-20 minutes when calling in around thick. Maybe even 25-30 minutes. Possibly; I get that from the way I call…

I don't follow a certain sequence or sound but I most always start with some type rabbit cry. Sometimes with hand calls then switch to the FP, sometimes just the FP (I still always have handcalls with me). I let it wail for 20-30 seconds, then silence for about the same. Then maybe 10-15 seconds with ~45 seconds of silence. Then maybe a minute of cries, followed by ~40 seconds of silence. Two minutes constant cries, 2-3 minutes of silence.

Then I switch to some type canine distress or puppy whines (I save Ki-Ya for after the shot). Lately, it has been FP’s “scream’n grey”. This is a great sound by the way. I’ve only been using the sound for about a month & I’ve called in (that I seen) 4 grey fox, 6 coyotes & a bobcat (yeah, the cat came to a fox scream). I start this sound with just a few bawls. Maybe 5-8 seconds, followed with a minute of silence. Then a few more short burst back & forth in the next minute. Then follow a similar sequence to the rabbit, until I end up playing solid for 2-3 minutes; usually about 15 minutes or so into the stand.

I do check the time I start a stand but never look back to my watch until I feel like the stand is over. My times vary right much depending on the stand but usually end the set 15-20 minutes & try to stay 5 minutes after the last sound. Sometimes silence is the best call!

I’d say most of my coyotes show up around the 7-10 minute mark in the set (when I am into my second sound). I have very few hard chargers & kill few coyotes or fox with rabbit sounds, but feel they help my set tremendously.

I agree completely with using the Scream-N-Gray #226. It has been one of FoxPro's more successful sounds as of recently.

Mike Dillon(FoxPro) and Andrew Lewand did a hunt together and they only used three sounds. Scream-N-Gray was one of them. Andrew wrote an article for one of the predator magazines, I don't remember which one. Defining how Mike told him to use the three sounds. Basically, if one of those three don't prompt results, it is because there ain't nobody home, given that you have set up properly.

Scream-N-Grey!!!Amen Brother!!!Mike and Steve Dillon owners of FoxPro both know how I feel about this wonderful sound,its the best!!! CoalRidge I told you that Sonny and I wouldnt tell you wrong friend on these sounds...That was a good read Coalridge.....Chad

When I have a good set up, most sounds work great ..... Got a nice female last year on an Antelope distress. They haven't seen or heard an antelope in Massachusetts ...... preds will be preds.

Hard to trash a good stand with bad calling, and impossible to make a bad stand work with "world class" callin'.

We all have our favorites sounds though

sled, you must have noticed that last 1/3 of the last sentence in my post.

On that note, years ago Cooper Woods and I made a great setup one night here in Virginia. Wind was perfect(crosswind), they had a good travel route to come to the call with cover, a nice and secure feeling for them as they came in. We used the most obnoxious sound on that old FoxPro 16, they don't even sell it anymore I don't think. It was the Aggressive Jackrabbit, deep toned bawl, more like a Mule deer than a rabbit. BUT, he came and he died. That is the stand I thought of when you said, "it's hard to mess up a good setup with bad calling"

Coleridge, my stands are done in the same fashion.usually I incorporate equal amount of watching/listening as actual calling.Although when I call an area more open than I would like I call more constant.I maybe adding to much human logic into the calling ,but I figure a call going continuos would be more likely to bring them quickly out of their comfort zone.I also end almost every set with the ki-yi.

The 7-10 min mark seems to be my best also.after that I expect any coyote that responds to be using stealth.the runners come within 5 min , usually paired up.

one of the calls that Lewand mentions to use with the screaming grey is DSG cottontail.and I beleive baby cottontail.

seems like I need to download the screaming grey.

There is a great video posted here by soreloser, which gives a good example of what happens when a coyote hits your scent trail.

http://www.predatormastersforums.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1342963#Post1342963

I don't dispute or agree with anyone elses results while calling, since each setup is individually unique. I've had coyotes come in almost immediately on a setup and I've also waited 30-45 minutes, sometimes longer, for a taker. Therefore, I don't have a set time to quit on a setup. I just go by feel and by how that birds and other animals are responding. Is this correct for everyone? Nope, but it works for me. YMMV MI VHNTR

Guys often ask about using an e-caller and decoy. One thing I always tell them - kill the coyote BEFORE it gets to the decoy/caller! I've seen this happen way too many times when I first began using an e-caller and decoy set-up a lot. Coyotes will get there and then smell you at the spot you laid the caller/decoy down and bug out super quick. You can see it in their body language. I've watched them come hard on the run, just flat out aggressive hard chargers, eyes locked on the decoy, ears forward, mouth open to bite, front end drops for the bite – and then the ears slam back, the front end comes up and the rear drops as they spin and turn on the afterburners. I lost the biggest coyote I have ever seen waiting for the perfect shot. I later called this coyote King Kong Coyote as he was just simply a massive animal. I had the caller set up to my left about 30 yards away and was up on a ridge top intersection. I saw this big coyote loping hard on the run from my right to my left to the caller/decoy. He ran 25 yards in front of me and I had him right then dead to rights in the scope of my .243 BAR. This coyote was so locked on he never knew I was anywhere around. I tracked him through the scope as he ran by thinking that he would pause for a second or two at the decoy and give me a better shot. No way, he hit my scent at the caller and displayed the body language I described above and ran at an extremely hard angle behind me on the left side away and off the ridge. I never even got on the trigger. A couple of days later the same scenario happened a few miles away with another coyote. It will happen every time unless you take that shot before the coyote gets to the caller/decoy.