If you can group like Byron did, smaller animals aren't an issue.

You might have trouble with prairie dogs out at long ranges, but that's not what the scope was made for. They have their own niche products.

Don't believe they have an illuminated dot for the circle either.

As someone that has shot competition using military sights, I can tell you that your "minds eye" finds the center of a circle without problem.

Hope that helps some, SC.

Excellent write up. I can just picture one in Mossy Oak Brush sitting on top of my new Model 7 Predator.

It's already going up in price.

https://www.theopticzone.com/category/36510/1/scopes-nikon-coyote_special.htm

Yeah, I think the optics zone may have underpriced them initially. The new price structure they show is the same as most others have had them all along.

Hello

I just came across this thread and wanted to let you know that I purchased this scope in the 4.5x40 configuration.

I had just ordered a remington Model 7 Predator chambered in 17 furball and since that particular gun came in Mossy oak brush I wanted a scope to match it. The only one I could find was this scope and it was so new that I had to wait about 3 weeks to get it.

First impression- The first thing that I noticed was that the color on the gun and the scope were very different. In the images from Byron there was a very good match between the gun and the scope but mine are not all that close. Of course the question is whether the die lot was off on the scope or the gun.

The scope was priced at 289 dollars, which I feel was a very decent price. If you want the matching mossy oak rings, though, you will need to part with an additional 43 dollars, which is quite a bit higher than the standard black ones.But I guess if you want to hear the music....

After all was said and done, I got the scope mounted and sighted in this past weekend. I haven't gotten to get out and do a ton of shooting with it, But I did run a box of shells through the gun onto paper and I did get to take out a few striped gophers with it on Saturday.

I would have to agree with the assessment that anyone looking to try to group bullets on a target would be better served with a different scope. The center circle at 100 yards is much bigger than most bullseyes and you end up trying to center a circle inside a larger circle, which is not as effective as lining up crosshairs on the target. Out at 300 yards with a 3 inch bullseye much the same happens and IMO this can limit the ability to really dial in the gun on paper before going out unless you dedicate to using more bullets to get the feel for how the reticle works. So for that I am not enjoying the new reticle.

But OTOH when out trying out the 25g v-max's on the local gopher population, I do agree that the circle can really help you to locate the target and I am looking to get more time in with real live situations to see if the circle format works. I am also curious how those circles will transpose on the vital areas of larger game at different distances and using the three different circles.

IMO unless you are sitting still and hunting stationary targets the lower circles may hinder things if anything as you are trying to decide whether to hold at the top of one circle or the bottom of the other etc.

One thing that I feel could make this scope a real winner would be to add a razor thin crosshair into the center circle. Something that would not fill up the circle but that would help to find absolute center for the times it is necessary.

denjahn,

Thanks for your assessment.

I will be looking forward to hearing more about the reticle on game.

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