In reference to the Second amendment, I truly think that we the people hold the key as to the future of the second amendment. We the people need to stand together, inform the government that we the people have had enough of their gun grabbing laws and that we the people will from this point on exercise our rights given in the Bill of Rights. This includes our right to keep and bear arms. This will mean that we the people will carry concealed weapons for the protection of ourselves, our families and of our Constitution.

I an really surprised that no-one on this forum had any comment for my post. I never even raised an eyebrow. I thought there were people on this forum, not puppets.

Jim, I doubt that the lack of response is because we're all puppets. Most of us agree with what you've stated. We do need to stick together, we do need to stand up and be counted, and for many the best way to do that is to vote for gun rights supporters and to fund their campaigns. We must do this at the local level, as I believe most national level politicians are so crooked that they don't give a whit what their actual constituents have to say. They're not voting to serve our interests, only their own. Make sure your local and state representatives know what you want. Demand to be heard. Make your statements. But do it in a legal fashion that supports our cause.

And by the way, the BOR does not give us our rights, it simply identifies those inalienable rights that we're all born with. No piece of paper or government gives us those rights. They are ours by birth. The government is only here to try to curtail or take them away from us to serve its own (likely) evil purposes.

Well said DR. I'm not exactly a skilled wordsmith.

...I think most of us are in agreement with that statement...It's just how we go about it that usually causes some opposing viewpoints...

The Bill of Rights is a list of protections afforded to every citizen in an attempt to stem the potential tyranny of the government in answer to the impositions of the King of England on the Colonists...They are also amendments to the initial Constitution as are the ones that have been enacted since..

If you look at the earlier post with the letter from the Oregon Sheriff, it's obvious that the constituents in his county support his stance on the idea of Federal control...That is what keeps him in office...We need more citizen groups across the country to support, and vote for, elected officials that have the same viewpoint or attitude..

Every significant change will begin locally, within the counties and then to the elected state officials...Never pass up the chance to work at your local county fair or state fair for candidates that support your views...Laying back and waiting for someone else to do the job usually means the it doesn't get done....

It takes some time and effort and, in some cases, may cause some strain on personal relationships within family and friends, but if you really consider it worth the strain, you have an obligation to our descendents to act...

I did not intend to insenuate that no one cares about our rights to keep and bear arms. As you may know that we in Illinois just got our Concealed Carry law passed and are just now able to apply for the carry license. 11,000 applications were received the first day. My concern is the fact that Washington keep trying to take our guns and other rights away by the sneakiest means. This is my concern.

You can always count on that. We have a Communist type of Gvt with an agenda.. Stay alert.

I am writing this for clarity to those who aren't sure if a state has the right to regulate gun possession and carry methods.
The Supremacy Clause states that the Constitution is the supreme law of the land and that all state judges must abide by this Constitution. Any laws contrary to this Constitution are notwithstanding. The 10th Amendment allows states to deal with all other matters not covered in the Constitution. I come to the conclusion that all states must follow the Constitution which includes the Bill of Rights and they can make laws within their states so long as they do not undermine the Bill of Rights.
Any state that has regulations on gun ownership, types of guns, capacity limits, or limits to how you may carry your firearm are in direct violation of the Supremacy Clause, 2nd Amendment, 10th Amendment, and 14th Amendment. Any time a law enforcement officer gives you a hard time or worse for carrying a firearm, the LEO is in direct violation of the 2nd, 14th, and possibly your 4th depending on how far he/she goes (assuming you haven't committed another crime while carrying your firearm). That LEO also took an oath to abide by the Constitution. Some cops cannot even recite the Bill of Rights to you, yet they are somehow suppose to know what your rights are as a US citizen. That part blows my mind! How did they get a badge? How does a SWAT team violate someones 3rd and 4th when they take over a nearby house and get away with it? Etc Etc..

If people would start reminding people of the Supremacy Clause, the 10th Amendment, 14th Amendment section 1, and how those apply to state laws, we might gain some ground here. A president who makes executive orders restricting any thing gun related has violated the Constitution and should be reprimanded or impeached for his actions and attempted actions. And lets not forget all the other crap he has pulled that appears as someone is trying to destroy the country from the inside out.

...The trick, while you are correct, is to get the responsible parties (House and Senate) to initiate and follow through with the proper proceedings.....

You have to remember, most of them are lawyers, and as with many other professions, they generally protect their own...Most of them are in the "Elitist" mindset and have moved away from putting the interests of the general population in their efforts....

Panera Bread just lost my business:

http://eater.com/archives/2014/09/08/paneras-antigun-policy-satisfies-concerned-parents-group

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Here is a interesting question I just can't answer about 2A.

How does half a million people in Michigan go deer hunting have no reported accidents, and would be considered the 5th largest military in the world if put together, THEN TURN AROUND AND VOTE FOR DEMOCRATS, THAT WOULD TAKE AWAY THEIR GUNS TO HUNT????????????????

Same thing for the other neighboring states, also the south. Why someone that hunts would have any family members that live with them and eat that food, would vote democrat is a puzzle. Talk about being completely ignorant.
The DEMS will take away your guns and stop you from hunting all together and they vote for them.

When we founded this country we didn't spray pesticides on all our crops. We didn't have millions of people living in close proximity to each other either.

Since the Constitution was written things have changed a lot. But the basics of life are still the same. We all want to pursue happiness.

Today I read where some guy in Michigan was going around and shooting people at random. They police caught him today so he's going to jail for a long long time. Good deal.

But it's idiots like this that are putting pressure on politicians to change the gun laws. For the record I'm against that but I see where the ideas are coming from. They should pass laws to help the mentally ill faster.

For you see it's the mentally ill people that are the problem not the tools that they use to do their damage.

Now if the anti gun people would try to change the 2nd amendment it would be a totally different matter. I would fight that too. But they are too smart to try to overtly go after the 2nd amendment. That would be too hard to do. Our founding fathers made it hard to change the US Constitution to make sure that if it were changed the vast majority of Americans would be in favor of doing that change. But only a few times have the people been able to make changes to the constitution.

But what the anti gun people do is just totally ignore the 2nd amendment and pass anti gun laws any ways.

Now we have this vacancy on the US Supreme Court and the SCOTUS is left with 4 liberals and 4 conservative justices. The next person to join the court will decide who the majority will be. This will have an effect on the law for many years to come.

Now Obama is going to appoint someone and the GOP Majority in the US Senate has vowed to block his appointment. So the court will be without it's full membership for some time to come.

There are and will be some very important cases coming though the court system and things will need to be decided once and for all for the entire country not just a certain part of the country.

If the Supreme court takes a gun case and ties 4 to 4 the decision on the case will go back to the appellate court to decide what to do. But that decision won't effect the entire country or so I've been led to believe. It will only effect the area covered by that appellate court. So this decision will have to later be taken up again when the Supreme Court has all 9 members on the court. This is going to create a big mess IMHO.

What if Hillary were to win the Presidency and appoint the next supreme court justice? Just think how that would affect our current and future gun laws. She is anti gun IMHO and I don't like that about her. She is talking about letting people sue the gun manufactures if she was put in control. I don't think that is a good idea at all. In fact that is a very bad idea and a slippery slope at best.

Many hunters/gun guys wear LEVIS---they are as anti 2A as they get. No Levis/Dockers for me. Also no BEN & JERRYS ice cream as they subsidize anti 2A quite heavily....

The way they do it is UNIONS. The union says we can get xx DOLLARS more for you at the next contract. The (D)s are thus in.