Ditto, my thoughts on the juvenile lion vocals as well, probably poor calling strategy. Although, some like Curt have had success with the "In-Heat” type vocals.
I'm more of the evolving philosophy, success in hunting lions is in direct relationship to 5 key components. If you are short in one of these key areas, your success is all but guaranteed to be zero. EDIT ADDED - That said, a heavy dose of #5 can overcome shortfalls in 1 thru 4.
1. Lion density
2. Prey density
3. Remote terrain
4. Caller technique, persistence, and field craft
5. Dose of luck
I have a 2 1/2 day hunt planned for the Kiabab on September 12, 13, and 14th just after the archery deer hunt ends... Should have the woods to myself. I’m going to shoot for an average of 15 stands per day (45 - 50 stands total).
I’m going to do the deer, goat, jackrabbit routine and skip the lion vocals. Even if it’s 50 “dead stands” over 3 days, it will be great to get back out in the woods again.
As I have began to more and more target and hunt areas, terrains, and elevations where the potential for coyotes is significantly reduced and lions is increased, I’ve noticed my excitement factor on the stands is increased. Targeting a lion for me has really turned into an obsession, kind of strange hearing that out of a dyed in the wool Arizona coyote hunter, especially when it’s just the opposite of calling coyotes in terms of success. Not allot of people stay interested in something that may require hundreds or even thousands of stands over a period of years before success comes, if it comes at all. Guess, there comes a point when some look for another challenge in this predator calling sport we love so dear. I dare say, a lion presents good one.
AP
edit - cleaned up a couple typos