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#1716896 - 11/13/10 08:36 PM Re: Stock and trigger mods for a Savage Edge [Re: super4me2000]
EasternYote Offline
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Registered: 11/08/10
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Loc: NB, Canada
Super4me2000, you sure you don't work for Timney???

Well, I thought of replacing the trigger, but Timney rep wasn't sure if it would fit the new Edge, so he suggested waiting abit in case they do somemore rifle setups and call back to see if these will drop-in.

I looke dat Riflebasix as well, more economical but I am leaning toward the Timney. Might try my own mod on the factory one first...if it don't work or I screw up, I can always buy that replacement then.
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#1717050 - 11/14/10 01:50 AM Re: Stock and trigger mods for a Savage Edge [Re: EasternYote]
dmpowder Offline
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Registered: 12/24/09
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Originally Posted By: EasternYote

That's great news and all for a buck huh? I LIKE!
This tension pin??? what is it and why did you need it? How did you assemble this set-up?
Of course if I found time to disassemble my rifle I'd probably know the answer by now. Sorry!


Yeah the spring was .40 and same with the tension pin. The reason you need the pin is to keep the spring in place. To be honest I'm not even sure if it's for sure needed and the new spring sat in there pretty snug but I just didn't want it popping out during a hunt.

The tension pin is nice because there is no altering the factory trigger. So as long as you keep your stock spring all you have to do is pull the pin out and replace your factory spring. I don't recall the exact size of the pin as I just took my trigger with me and got the size that would just sit in the hole. You will have to tap it into the hole or use channel locks like I did and squeeze it into place. Then I just cut the pin down some. I can take pics of it in the morning and post them up. The best thing is you can keep cutting the spring until you find what you like the best and if you cut too much just go buy another spring and start over. As I have read before Savage does not list a part number for the spring so if you cut too much you might not be able to get a new one.

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#1717051 - 11/14/10 01:58 AM Re: Stock and trigger mods for a Savage Edge [Re: dmpowder]
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This is just a quick edit I did to the RB trigger. I just erased the screws that are not there on the stock trigger. Once you open yours up you will see how its done. I will still post pics of mine in the morning. If you want pm me your address and I will mail you a pin already cut or if you want you can cut it yourself. I can get them from work for free so I can save you .40 cents. thumbup

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#1717240 - 11/14/10 12:04 PM Re: Stock and trigger mods for a Savage Edge [Re: dmpowder]
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Hope this helps anyone looking to help the pull on the Edge. Again all that is needed to put it back to stock is just pull the tension pin out with a pair of pliers and put your factory spring back in. All the other mods I have heard of use JB weld or threading in a set screw. This way only cost $1.00 and does not alter the stock trigger in anyway. You can buy a couple of springs and clip them to adjust your pull just make sure you check the drop test before you call it good.


This is the factory spring you can see how they made a tighter coil so the spring would stay in the hole and keep the spring where it needs to be.


Here is the under side of the trigger with the tension pin installed. I just used chanl locks to press the pin in flush with the bottom of the trigger.


Then I just cut the tension pin down with a hack saw. Just make sure you cut it shorter then the safety screw. Again the only reason you use the pin is so the spring won't pop/fall out.


This is what it will look like with the new spring.


And this is what it looks like all back together.



Please be careful and check for safety and make sure it functions correctly after wards by doing the drop test. Then cock the rifle unloaded of course and try and fire the trigger with all the force you can with the safety on.


Edited by dmpowder (11/14/10 12:19 PM)
Edit Reason: Safety stuff

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#1717298 - 11/14/10 01:00 PM Re: Stock and trigger mods for a Savage Edge [Re: dmpowder]
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Thanks DM, that really clears up some things!
Doesn't look too difficult. And it's in my price range,,LOL!

Thanks Again
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#1717940 - 11/15/10 02:24 AM Re: Stock and trigger mods for a Savage Edge [Re: EasternYote]
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I'm not really grasping the mod above. So I'll throw some 'it seems to be' type things out there. I haven't pulled my trigger apart so no first hand knowledge.

But, if all you're doing is 1. removing the screw and 2. replacing the screw with a pin couldn't you

1. Leave the screw in place and use it to locate the spring instead of replacing it with a pin? Or is what I'm seeing as a screw in the trigger actually your pin and there's just a hole there with the factory trigger?
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#1718220 - 11/15/10 01:19 PM Re: Stock and trigger mods for a Savage Edge [Re: NdIndy]
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Your seeing the pin. There is just a hole there and that is why they wound the stock spring tighter at the bottom so it will stay centered. The only screw on the factory trigger is the safety screw. If it did have a second screw then all we would have to do is switch to a weaker spring. Once you tear yours apart you will see and you may come up with a different way to make yours work.

The reason I came up with this is
1. I had to be able to convert it back to stock if needed.
2. Cheap cost me under $1.00 with taxes.
3. I didn't want alter the factory trigger ie tapping or jb weld.
4. I did not want to cut the factory spring mostly because reason 1 and I had a to make sure it was ready for the next morning hunt. As we all know you can't put it back on once you cut it off.

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#1718336 - 11/15/10 03:38 PM Re: Stock and trigger mods for a Savage Edge [Re: dmpowder]
JTrottaNY Offline
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Registered: 10/17/07
Posts: 186
Loc: New York - 4L
Has anyone here acctually "polished" a Savage trigger? I have heard from a few different sources that doing so will cut through the hard surface and into the softer metal below acctually making the problem worse... ???

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#1762948 - 12/23/10 06:08 PM Re: Stock and trigger mods for a Savage Edge [Re: JTrottaNY]
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It would depend on what you consider to be 'polishing'. To some that means abrasives/sandpaper/stones and trying to hit the fine line before you get through the hardening. To others it means actual 'posish'. I've done a few case hardened parts using nothing more than cloth and buffing compound. Ended up with a nice smooth surface even with the factory gouges, didn't cut and so far no worries.

If compound by itself cuts through into the soft metal, that part wasn't long for this world anyway.
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#1763478 - 12/24/10 12:05 AM Re: Stock and trigger mods for a Savage Edge [Re: NdIndy]
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Registered: 11/28/02
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Excellent post DM--i'll have to try it on a SS 200--assuming the trigger's the same, and it's a problem when my buddy gets his 200...that is.

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#1767758 - 12/27/10 09:01 PM Re: Stock and trigger mods for a Savage Edge [Re: EasternYote]
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Originally Posted By: EasternYote
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Well if glueing the trigger gaurd shut has no effect on removing the triggered actin, then why design it to drop away as they did? Does it have something to do with the magazine seating, that if that point wears, then you can replace the trigger guard housing??? Always something to think about huh??
Got any pictures to share?
Thank You!
Eastern'


The edge is a pretty cool concept in saving $$$ for a budget rifle. One of the ways they saved money was using the same receiver and stock for long and short actions. So even short action calibers have a long bolt pull.

The ONLY thing that makes the short/long difference is the magazine well, and the ONLY thing that's different from the long/short magazine well is the trigger guard which defines the well itself. They have 2 different sized trigger guards and drop in the appropriate one for the caliber.


Brought this up as I'm working my trigger in the next day or so and hit the thread for a summary, saw the ? hadn't been answered yet smile
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#1771393 - 12/30/10 01:53 PM Re: Stock and trigger mods for a Savage Edge [Re: NdIndy]
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I followed Dm's instructions for the trigger, worked well. I did some dremel/buffing compound polishing at the same time just so I'd feel like I did something. Total time is about 10 minutes if I had the parts in front of me. I actually spent 2 days along with about $10 total. Most of that was just picking up different springs until I found one I was happy with. I picked up 3 or 4 pins and 3 or 4 springs on the 1st day before I actually pulled it apart and then went back for weaker springs day 2.

But in the actual rifle, very quick and about $1.60 going from 6lbs to 3.5lbs according to my fish scale.
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#1854140 - 02/22/11 02:38 PM Re: Stock and trigger mods for a Savage Edge [Re: NdIndy]
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Registered: 02/17/11
Posts: 136
Loc: Indiana
The trigger spring on mine went into a threaded hole.
Checks out at 10-24 UNC.

Used a setscrew at first, threaded smaller spring onto a couple of prjecting threads and clipped coils to fair trigger pull (this an aftermarket spring of same coil diameter for full length).

Hated the overtravel so yanked that and went with larger dia. spring yet, that slides over a 10-24 screw freely.

Messed with adjusting a longer screw, got all overtravel out, but then the sear would drag farther up the trigger, when you'd push the cocking indicator to remove the bolt. Could have clearanced the trigger pc as it's not important back there, but decided to try a button head screw of stock length....that looked roughly to be as long as the test screw suggested.

It was just a shade shorter smile

Overtravel is just a smidge now. Usable.

Here's a blow up:

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#1877222 - 03/14/11 02:29 AM Re: Stock and trigger mods for a Savage Edge [Re: nuketheyote243]
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Registered: 03/12/11
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Thank you all for this thread. It made it easy, and made me feel confident to lesson the trigger pull on my .270 Edge to about 3.5 pounds. Now I will probably do the same on my .223 as well.
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#1893195 - 04/01/11 07:56 PM Re: Stock and trigger mods for a Savage Edge [Re: dmpowder]
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Registered: 04/01/11
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Hi DM...I just wanted to thank you for posting this article. It is a beautiful and simple mod. I tried out my new Savage AXIS for the first time today. At first I thought I could live with the heavy trigger because it was very crisp, until I got it on a benchrest...then I knew I had to do this mod...I used a #8 spring from Ace hardware. Mounted the roll pin per your instructions, and it looks like a factory installation. The safety works perfectly, and the Savage Accutrigger couldn't produce a sweeter pull. I am guessing that I have about 2.75 lbs. now, and beautifully crisp. Savage has managed to keep the best parts of the 110 in the AXIS, and with your mod, the AXIS may have the best of both worlds...

Thanks again

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