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Originally Posted By: pyscodogSo you really think its all a hoax. There's a awful lot of dead people on both sides that wish they could argue with you. Sadly they aren't around any longer to help change your mind. Hopefully they weren't your kin.

Your comment appears to be a 'red herring' intended to mislead readers. No one is saying that the virus does not exist. But, there is increasing evidence that the Covid-19 statistics are greatly exaggerated and in many cases they appear to be exaggerated for political gain in blue democrat controlled cities and states. So if you would like to argue those points feel free to do so but do not try to mislead the readers.
 
Thanks.

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The good news is that three drug makers are entering into phase III testing of Covid-19 vaccine trials,the final stage for approval. Experts are hopeful that a viable vaccine will be available in the near future putting an end to the China virus nightmare. Moderna is beginning their phase III trials today.
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The Socialist Democrats and their lap-dog media are most definitely using the virus....and anything else they can conjur up..... to try to sway the election.

The virus is also real. Have a nurse friend who comes home from hospital crying every day due to all the fatalities....most unknown to her, but some associates and other health care workers, too.

Neighbor 3 doors down passed yesterday and another across the street had to close his office due to 3 of his workers coming down w/covid.

Both hospitals and funeral homes ordering refrigerated trailers due to backlog.

Are the numbers exagerated? Probably, due to the testing issues/false positives, political misadventures, etc. but you can't ignore the bodies.

Regards,
hm
 
How many people died annually in 2010-2018 from corona viruses?

Corona viruses have been around for as long as we know, just like influenza and common cold, so how many people die in a normal year from a corona virus???
 
Excellent point Rock. Caronavirus strains have been killing people around the world since the 1960's, and possibly since before the 1960's. There is no way to know for sure when they came on the scene.

 
I don't understand the quoting of flu death numbers as if that off sets the deaths from covid.

I don't understand how some people still think the virus is a hoax.

I do think it's not of much use to be afraid. Life must go on as best as possible. Nothing wrong with using common sense.
 
Originally Posted By: tnshootistI don't understand how some people still think the virus is a hoax.




i never understood how people think sandy hook was a hoax either. but some do.
 
Originally Posted By: ADKOriginally Posted By: pyscodogSo you really think its all a hoax. There's a awful lot of dead people on both sides that wish they could argue with you. Sadly they aren't around any longer to help change your mind. Hopefully they weren't your kin.

Your comment appears to be a 'red herring' intended to mislead readers. No one is saying that the virus does not exist. But, there is increasing evidence that the Covid-19 statistics are greatly exaggerated and in many cases they appear to be exaggerated for political gain in blue democrat controlled cities and states. So if you would like to argue those points feel free to do so but do not try to mislead the readers.
 
Originally Posted By: ADKOriginally Posted By: ADKOriginally Posted By: pyscodogSo you really think its all a hoax. There's a awful lot of dead people on both sides that wish they could argue with you. Sadly they aren't around any longer to help change your mind. Hopefully they weren't your kin.

Your comment appears to be a 'red herring' intended to mislead readers. No one is saying that the virus does not exist. But, there is increasing evidence that the Covid-19 statistics are greatly exaggerated and in many cases they appear to be exaggerated for political gain in blue democrat controlled cities and states. So if you would like to argue those points feel free to do so but do not try to mislead the readers.
 
Yes, you can find it on Wikipedia:



2020 G4 EA H1N1 publication

G4 EA H1N1, also known as the G4 swine flu virus (G4) is a swine influenza virus strain discovered in China.[64] The virus is a variant genotype 4 (G4) Eurasian avian-like (EA) H1N1 virus that mainly affects pigs, but there is some evidence of it infecting people.[64] A 2020 peer-reviewed paper from the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (PNAS) stated that "G4 EA H1N1 viruses possess all the essential hallmarks of being highly adapted to infect humans ... Controlling the prevailing G4 EA H1N1 viruses in pigs and close monitoring of swine working populations should be promptly implemented."[65]

Michael Ryan, executive director of the World Health Organization (WHO) Health Emergencies Program, stated in July 2020 that this strain of influenza virus was not new and had been under surveillance since 2011.[66] The Chinese CDC said it had implemented an influenza surveillance program in 2010, analyzing more than 400,000 tests annually, to facilitate early identification of influenza.[67] Of those, 13 A(H1N1) cases were detected, of which three were of the G4 variant.[67]

The study stated that almost 30,000 swine had been monitored via nasal swabs between 2011 and 2018.[65] While other variants of the virus have appeared and diminished, the study claimed the G4 variant had sharply increased since 2016 to become the predominant strain.[65][68] The Chinese Ministry of Agriculture and Rural Affairs rebutted the study, saying that the number of pigs sampled was too small to demonstrate G4 had become the dominant strain and that the media had interpreted the study "in an exaggerated and nonfactual way".[69] They also said the infected workers "did not show flu symptoms and the test sample is not representative of the pig population in China".[67]

According to the study, between 2016 and 2018, 338 swine production workers in China were tested for antibodies of the virus, and 35 (10.4%) had tested positive. Of those workers between the ages of 18 and 35, 20.5% had tested positive.[65][70] Among another 230 people screened who did not work in the swine industry, 10 (4.4%) tested positive for antibodies, indicating prior infection.[64][65] Three cases of infection caused by the G4 virus had been documented as of July 2020, with no confirmed cases of human-to-human transmission.[64]

The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said the study suggested that human infection by the G4 virus is more common than it was thought to be.[64] Both the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control (ECDC)[71] and the US CDC[64] stated that, like all flu viruses with pandemic potential, the variant is a concern that will be monitored.[71] The WHO assesses the risk of influenza viruses with the Tool for Influenza Pandemic Risk Assessment,[71] and the US CDC uses the Influenza Risk Assessment Tool.[64] The ECDC stated that "the most important intervention in preparing for the pandemic potential of influenza viruses is the development and use of human vaccines ...".[71] The US CDC announced in July 2020 that it would request a sample of the virus from China and create a new vaccine if needed.[64] Health officials (including Anthony Fauci) have said that the virus should be monitored, particularly among those in close contact with pigs, but it is not an immediate threat.[72][73] While there have been no reported cases or evidence of the virus outside of China as of July 2020,[73] Smithsonian magazine reported in July 2020 that scientists agree that the virus should be closely monitored, but because it "so far cannot jump from person to person", it should not be a cause for alarm.[74]
 
Wonder why the Chinese have so many cases of catching stuff from animals.

I guess they have a lot of people in close proximity. It looks like they would be able to do better but I know very little about how they live there.Never was much interested.
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The story I read said one case has been found in the US. A man had recently traveled to Wuhan and back.
If it was up to me anyone who wanted to go to China could go. Couldn't come back though.
 
Obviously, Covid is affecting different parts of the country differently. Population density seems to be a major factor in its spread.

Just got an email from my nurse friend, who works in one of the medium sized hospitals in the area. "Covid is in our hospital. We usually have 3 code blues/week; now 3+/day".

As stated earlier, area hospitals are full, one reporting on local news double occupancy in covid rooms intended for isolation (single occupancy). It was reported that they were packed in so tight "you can't get a crash cart in where needed".

Hopefully, a good sign yesterday as new cases reported dropped slightly. Perhaps a sign of better days ahead??

Regards,
hm
 
"Just got an email from my nurse friend, who works in one of the medium sized hospitals in the area. "Covid is in our hospital. We usually have 3 code blues/week; now 3+/day"."

Is that medium sized hospital in a city controlled by Democrats hm?
 
It is interesting what is going on with this covid thing. Our local Colo. news keeps reporting sky rocketing cases, by the day. Also telling us that testing is reaching new highs. So it makes since, more tests equals more positive cases found.
What they usually fail to tell us on the news is that the number of patients in the hospital is not following the upward trend of cases, and that the death rate has remained very VERY low and the positivity rate remains below 5%.

Why is it that the news only want to tell us part of the story, you know, the BAD part? A guy has to go online to the .gov site to see the whole picture of what is actually happening around here.
 
Originally Posted By: ADKThe liberal fake news agenda at work again.

Just asking, has anyone heard that the common cold virus will register a positive on a covid-19 test?
 
According to the CDC, yes it is happening. Imagine the opportunities for fraud that this presents.

From the CDC website:

If you test positive

A positive test result shows you may have antibodies from an infection with the virus that causes COVID-19. However, there is a chance a positive result means that you have antibodies from an infection with a virus from the same family of viruses (called coronaviruses), such as the one that causes the common cold.


https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/testing/serology-overview.html
 
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