New Reloading Bench!

Originally Posted By: orkanOriginally Posted By: Plant.One
but of course this is coming from - as mentioned above - someone who doesnt have to worry about these kinds of issues at this point
Keep the attitude you have. Why sacrifice the things you love for some unappreciative broad? I have no idea what is wrong with so-called "men" today that let their women run(ruin) their lives. Guy's are so worried about having some hole around that they forget how to be men.

I can get up, and spend the entire day, doing whatever I want. If I'm at home in my reloading room... my wife periodically brings me something to drink and eat. She loves how passionate I am about what I do, and would never dream of trying to stop me from doing it. I don't go shopping, not even for groceries. I haven't cooked a meal, washed laundry, or cleaned the house in 8 years. We have two children, 4yrs and 6yrs. I haven't changed more than 20-30 diapers in all that time, and that was just because the wife was sick or something.

If my wife came to me and said "you really need to help clean the house," I'd tell her that she really needs to start looking for a different man. The lack of resolve men have when dealing with women astonishes me.

If most men had a clue how to actually be men, society's cute depiction of the dumb enslaved man and the insanely controlling women would stay where it belongs: On TV.


You ever let her out of the house without a veil on? Sounds like how Muslims treat a woman.
 
See... the mere suggestion that men "man up" is met with blank stares.
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Hey, as long as everyone still gets to use "clearing it with the boss" as an excuse for being indecisive or not partaking in the things they claim to love... everyone can maintain their illusions.
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Me... I'll be shooting and doing things shooting-related.

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Originally Posted By: skinnyminnyYou ever let her out of the house without a veil on? Sounds like how Muslims treat a woman. ... right, because god forbid we have a traditional household where we actually raise our children. Obviously she must be abused... right?

We live on a farm, she's a stay-at-home-mom. Loves it. She has all kinds of critters to have fun with. Goats, chickens, rabbits, cats, etc. I love her, because she isn't like 99% of women I have met. She doesn't need a $60,000 SUV to be happy. Nor does she need 600 pairs of shoes. She needs security, food, health, and a tight family. All of which I provide. In exchange, she ensures I'm fed and cared for. Prior to very recent history... THAT is how it was done. This new thing where the divorce rate is through the roof, and women are being paid to have children, and men lose half their income to ex's... well I have no idea what that crap is about. You can have it.
 
I'll agree I hate that when guys say I have to run it by the boss or the war dept. but hey whatever works for y'all. There are a lot of fairy men and manly women. Roles are getting reversed. At least she brings you food while reloading. I may never come out if I had it like that.
 
I think the loading bench looks nice. As time goes along it grows with us and develops its own personality. Mine is pleasantly cluttered.

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Quote:If most men had a clue how to actually be men, society's cute depiction of the dumb enslaved man and the insanely controlling women would stay where it belongs: On TV......Let's hope your wife never comes our of her apparent stupor and sets out for revenge...

Marriage is a partnership with ground rules and sharing of effort and responsibility....My wife and I each have our own separate incomes and our own areas of hobbies/pleasure activities...We pool our household expenses and split them evenly, any money left over belongs to each to do as we wish...We split any house work that needs to be done with one exception, she refuses to let me do laundry after I colored some whites Pink with an old red sweatshirt...

When we moved to FL, (no basement) I installed a 12'x30' storage building for a 12'x18' space for my reloading, gun maintenance, tool use...It's heated, air conditioned and dehumidified...
and I installed the take outs of our old kitchen cabinets for storage and bench use..

 
Originally Posted By: OldTurtleLet's hope your wife never comes our of her apparent stupor and sets out for revenge... My wife knows exactly what she wants, likes, and needs. I do not appreciate you insinuating that she is "in a stupor." How dare you. She'll be along shortly, but I'm not going to tolerate you slandering her.

... a moderator?
 
Originally Posted By: midwestpredatorWhat material are the shell holder and comparator trays made out of? Plastic.
 
Orkan,

You have made some statements in this thread that paint with a pretty broad brush. There are all kinds of people in this country and all kinds of situations that they are in and everyone has to do what they can to try to make things work for them and their situation or family. I don't know your situation and you don't know mine or likely anyone else's on this board.

You are the one that started throwing out the insults but when you feel insulted you call for the mods to step in.

One thing I am sure of in this situation is that Primal Rights will not be seeing any of my business.
 
I see it as he shared his opinion. which last i checked was his prerogative.

He is right. It wasn't that long ago that was the very norm of family.

I also don't see anything wrong with it as that is what they worked out, and OT has his own deal. Marriage is a partnership and each partnership is different.

Insulting one mans marriage and partnership because it's not your deal, isn't something i agree with.
 
Originally Posted By: obaroOrkan,

You have made some statements in this thread that paint with a pretty broad brush. There are all kinds of people in this country and all kinds of situations that they are in and everyone has to do what they can to try to make things work for them and their situation or family. I don't know your situation and you don't know mine or likely anyone else's on this board.

You are the one that started throwing out the insults but when you feel insulted you call for the mods to step in.

One thing I am sure of in this situation is that Primal Rights will not be seeing any of my business. Good. Chances are you'd just "have to check with the boss" after taking an hour of my time on the phone anyway.
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... and there is a difference between making an observation about someone disparaging his own wife by saying she's the reason for his inability to do or not do a thing, and insulting his wife whom is not here to defend herself. Guy says his wife is the problem, I tell him to get a new wife. I didn't say his wife was stupid. I kindly and in a round about pleasant way told him HE was, for allowing such a situation to exist. If you can't see the difference, then I'm happy that you're happy not doing business with us. If you can't understand something so simple as that, I certainly don't want to be beholden to you by money in exchange for trying to meet your expectations.

All I know is that I don't run around in public using my wife as an excuse for what I do or don't do.
 
Howdy gentlemen,

I'm Gash, Orkan's wife. I'm going to preface this by saying this isn't a "run to Orkan's defense" type post but rather a response to the same responses over and over and over again, anytime Orkan ever brags about our relationship or dare mention anything of it. I don't regularly post on forums but I do frequently watch/read them. All these things y'all are saying have been brought up so many times over the years it's really tiring. I haven't been brainwashed in any capacity to where he needs be worried that one day I'm going to wake up and set out for revenge. I chose this life I live and I love every moment of it. If for some reason I woke up one day and didn't like it well I know where the door is. When we got together we both wanted a very traditional family...husband works, provides for the family, mom stays home takes care of home stuff and kids. Take a look back before the 1960's and look at those households. Normal house was the husband was gone all day, typically long hours providing for his family, while his wife stayed home, cooked, cleaned, took care of the kids and so on. She still had a very social life and fulfilling life. She saw friends and family, it's just her focus was ON HER FAMILY not other things like a professional career, status, money and so on. It took me a bit to break free of the typical woman behaviors of today, needing a career, my own status and so on, and I'm so very thankful I did break free of it, with the help of Orkan of course. I can say with 100% this is the life I dreamed of, [beeep] I even wrote about it in grade-school, and I 100% chose this for myself. My life has never been more full and satisfying being a stay at home mom, homemaker, homesteader, home-schooler, and so on. I have more meaning in my life taking care of my family than I did chasing up the BS corporate ladder. Things I do now actually have a long lasting affect that will be seen for decades vs the temporary junk in the job world.

I absolutely love to cook and it brings me great pleasure to feed Orkan and our kids homemade meals from scratch. No I don't mean a Betty Crocker boxed cake from scratch, I mean flour, sugar, eggs, baking powder, and so on from scratch. I don't mind spending a good part of my day in the kitchen preparing meals that may have taken an hour or more to cook, only to be devoured in minutes by my family members. I love knowing my family is eating quality food, my kids have a mom who knows how to cook and enjoys it. Cleaning isn't my favorite thing to do, but it is one of my responsibilities that I must do to maintain harmony in my family. It doesn't take long to do, when done right and why any stay at home mom would ever need help from her working husband just floors me. Taking both my kids grocery shopping happens all the time. Rarely do I ask Orkan to watch one of the kids so I can go grocery shopping. Rarely do I ask him to watch them period. Fact is I can't imagine my life without my kids, it feels very strange on the rare occasions I don't have them in tow. Helping make our lives easier brings me great satisfaction. If it means I slip in and out of the gun-room as Orkan works, bringing him food, beverages and check in on him if there's anything else he needs, I'll do it. If the kids and I need to leave him alone in the gun-room and act like he isn't home, then so be it. We'll do that. He works long hours at the office to provide what we have and if he's home but holed up in the gun-room, no problem. What counts is he's home, his presence is felt, he's available if the need arises, instead of being 15 miles away. It's nice having him home, the kids love having daddy around even if he isn't directly involved in what we're doing and I love having him around. Orkan's gun stuff isn't just a hobby it's a way of life, it's a way he brings revenue into our home and well before he was making money off it, it was his way of life. I wouldn't dare dream of trying to change that. Changing that would be changing the man I fell in love with.

We have many luxuries in our lives. Ours don't include a 10,000sqf home or a brand new SUV or shopping sprees every other weekend or fancy vacations. Our luxuries are simple: a small country home on some acreage, running water, power, heat, a bunch of farm animals which provide great joy and they also provide food for us. We have nice clothes but they're not name brand trendy stuff. I don't have a giant diamond on my finger or any jewelry for that matter either. I hate jewelry. I bought a cheap ring years ago to see if i could get use to it because the thought of wearing a wedding ring sounded nice, reality is they get in the way of everything you do and if you fall just right the thing will rip your finger off. Our kids aren't spoiled rotten, they have what they need, they have great toys to stimulate their minds and they have plenty of green grass to run on, bikes to ride, animals to play with and stuff to play on outside. I'm not one of those gals who needs anything fancy. I have always been practical when it comes to the things I buy. A brand new SUV isn't my thing. Trust me I know this for a fact because last year we test drove a lot of vehicles before replacing my old Buick Regal. I chose a minivan over everything because it was the most practical thing for me and my family. It was more room than the SUVs, more versatility than the SUVs, the ease of getting things in and out of it are fantastic and for the money you cannot beat it. I always swore I'd never drive one, but the practical side of me got the best of me
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Oh and yes, I do take care of all my critters too. Hauling bags of food in and out of the barn, cleaning pens, and so on I do all of it. I also slaughter the chickens from time to time, clean them up and butcher them, I will be breeding my rabbits to provide meat and will process them in their entirety and so on. With that said,if you haven't caught on at this point...No I am not like the 99.5% of the other women out there...period. Women like me do exist, rare in deed, but we are out there.

Instead of continuing my rambling on and on about myself so you have an inkling of who I am and what I stand for and how Orkan and I could have the relationship we have and neither of us be brainwashed *cough* mainly me. Let me say this. I will never understand the split finances, I truly don't get the need for two separate incomes and have the wife out of the house while someone else raises your kids. I don't understand why husbands feel the need to air their dirty laundry about how their wives step all over them and by not letting them bring their toys/guns into the house, let them have one room to be their own for reloading and all their stuff, or how they have to clear everything with her before purchasing stuff, or say their wife would kill them if they had this many guns or in fact this many of anything. I don't understand why everyone settles to being tossed out where ever the wife deems you need to go. To me that seems like she doesn't respect you and you don't have enough respect for yourself to stand up for yourself. Orkan and I respect each other, we trust one another, we are comfortable in our own skins and in our relationship to allow the other person to be themselves and not feel the need to control one another or manipulate each other. Sure it may seem on the surface that I'm in a "stupor", as someone put it, because my role isn't the normal role these days. However as I stated before what I do is very fulfilling and furthermore it is my duty to my family to do what I do. Woman wearing the pants and being head of the home is just a bunch of hogwash and not how nature intended our lives to be. Instead of slinging insults at the wife who isn't on the forum or thinking the man who has all that Orkan does, can't be telling the truth, try a simple congratulation.

All this griping about spouses sure does leave one to wonder why the heck you all married her in the first place. I 100% believe gripes shouldn't be made public, that is a private matter between husband and wife. Supporting one another 100% doesn't including badmouthing one another to anyone. I know it's become the norm these days to gripe about anything and everything, a wonderful little secret is if you stop griping about it and actually put forth some effort to solve it you'll have a blissful life.
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Perhaps there'd be less divorces these days, perhaps there wouldn't be so many dysfunctional families and kids, if this kind of stuff ceased.

On topic...that is a mighty fine reloading bench and gun-room and I'm so thankful he finally has a very comfortable place to do all of this in.

On a lighter note...I also love to shoot. Shooting rats and other small vermin in the head is a favorite past-time of mine, hehe. Gotta love the trusty .22lr. I'm also known to be out along the shore of a body of water casting a way for fish from time to time, then coming home to clean my catch and cook it up for our supper.
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There you have it. Direct from the source.
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I don't know how society ever switched things around so that stay-at-home mom's are considered to be not doing it right, but as you can see, we don't agree with that at ALL!

It's easier for women to run off to a job and let someone else raise their kids than it is to take care of their family. Then they wonder why their kids end up destroying their lives. lol

This is a new thing. Never used to be this way. So, take responsibility for yourselves. Don't blame your wife for what you do or don't do. It isn't funny. It is harmful to you and harmful to your wives.
 
Orkan it sounds like you have a great wife. I wish more children were raised that way. Might help the country from the slow collapse it doing now. Nice bench too!
 
Originally Posted By: skinnyminnyI wish more children were raised that way. Might help the country from the slow collapse it doing now. We agree completely. If parents would raise their kids, instead of letting TV, day care, and schools do it, I think we'd be a lot better off.
 
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