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#990225 - 06/15/08 11:11 PM Re: Misting [Re: Rich in AZ]
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Somebody (Redfrog) needs to follow me through this thread as I edit my comments. I feel a mood swing coming on!


Edited by Weasel-UT (06/17/08 01:14 PM)

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#990226 - 06/15/08 11:24 PM Re: Misting [Re: Weasel-UT]
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Quote:

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Weasel, misting just isn't necessary in open country with coyotes that are killed at the first opportunity. Not worth the hassle to anyone then.





and I didn't say otherwise. Did I or did I not ask you the exact formula that you used so I could give it another go? Didn't you advise me on the specific sprayer to use? These keyboard experts need to wise up and know what they are talking about before spouting off.



In what terrain and cover did you use mist, weasel?
What technique did you use?
To what end-purpose did you expect of the mist?
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#990227 - 06/15/08 11:27 PM Re: Misting [Re: Weasel-UT]
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Rich, wasn't misting invented as an aid to predator contest hunters? My understanding was they needed to extract every possible coyote from each stand, as time was of the "essence". (sorry)

Seriously, contest hunters couldn't afford wasting a chance at a downwind dispatch, so they needed something to stall the coyote for one last shot. Is my understanding correct?
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#990228 - 06/15/08 11:56 PM Re: Misting [Re: Rich in AZ]
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Edited by Weasel-UT (06/17/08 01:25 PM)

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#990229 - 06/16/08 12:12 AM Re: Misting [Re: NASA]
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#990230 - 06/16/08 12:23 AM Re: Misting [Re: Weasel-UT]
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Tom, you are correct. When I was researching the origins of misting for the Predator Xtreme article I traced it back to Rick Orelli and his partner Gary Thomas in 1963. I spoke to Rick again at the Calif. Predator Expo last July and he re-affirmed those facts. Incidentally, Rick has turned in proof of kill on more than 3000 coyotes to his chapters of CSVCA.
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#990231 - 06/16/08 12:26 AM Re: Misting [Re: Rob Meyers]
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Weasel- I believe what I have in my bottle works. This is probably not what Rich uses (honestly I don't know all his ingredients and don't bother asking). I have combined gray fox, bobcat, coyote, and rabbit urine. I mist my call area, and where I stand/sit. I mist probably once every 3 minutes unless I have a coyote heading to my downwind, then I mist as often as I can.

The drawback is the awful stench that gets on my fingers some and my garage stinks something terrible.
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#990232 - 06/16/08 12:42 AM Re: Misting [Re: Hyperwrx]
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Edited by Weasel-UT (06/17/08 01:27 PM)

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#990233 - 06/16/08 01:38 AM Re: Misting [Re: Weasel-UT]
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Rich knows this subject matter 100 times more than I do. I do what I do on account of seeing him do what he does and getting results. I would hope my opinion does nothing but compliment his on these forums.

I prefer to shotgun a coyote when possible. Because of that I tend to gravitate to stands where it is thick. In these situations the coyote can be quite close to me without presenting itself for a shot so misting is essential. For all I know the coyote has worked itself downwind of me. Coating everything in my downwind with a layer of confusion can only help me.

Camera work is the same. Whatever I can do to tip the odds in my favor and get that coyote within 20 feet of me will most oftentimes produce a few quality pictures. I make lot of mistakes and have to do something to keep the coyotes around.
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#990234 - 06/16/08 10:49 AM Re: Misting [Re: Hyperwrx]
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"Thanks for the info, Scott. Too bad not everybody can contribute useful information."
Weasel that is precisely the info I gave you over the phone and info I have posted on this board numerous times in the past.
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#990235 - 06/16/08 01:58 PM Re: Misting [Re: Rich in AZ]
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Edited by Weasel-UT (06/17/08 01:28 PM)

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#990236 - 06/16/08 02:04 PM Re: Misting [Re: Weasel-UT]
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uh. no.
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#990237 - 06/16/08 02:13 PM Re: Misting [Re: Hyperwrx]
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Edited by Weasel-UT (06/17/08 01:29 PM)

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#990238 - 06/16/08 02:48 PM Re: Misting [Re: Weasel-UT]
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If no one "locally" has used it, maybe someone should give it a try. Who knows, if it works they could be the next Rock Star of the commercial predator hunting circuit.

Just picture the fame. Your own line of camo wear, pheromone scented after shave, your own groupies and leg-humpers, energy bars with your logo on them, even apres-hunt lounge booties! Here's your chance. Get famous, everybody's doing it.


Edited by NASA (06/16/08 03:00 PM)
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#990239 - 06/16/08 03:48 PM Re: Misting [Re: NASA]
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Guys that are reading this post should remember that if it were not for some kind of stinky smell, that no trapper would ever catch a coyote, etc in a trap......Hummmmmm.....with the exception of a snare set where they go underneath a mesh fence.

this stuff is really simple.

As a matter of fact, I'm going to get a live trap and catch the dogs that are crapping all over my yard at night and early morning....then I'll take them to the pound.

I have been saving hoof trimmings, I mean toe nails for boiling and using as an attractant. What do you think that they are worth? I really don't have the nerve let my wife see me cooking them in the house, and I don't want to ruin my fish fryer.


Edited by ackleyman (06/16/08 04:09 PM)

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