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Oilfieldtrash, I'm a Fair Chase hunter...doe's that make me a HSUS? I've always said that hunters need to police themselves. Sadly, some types of 'hunting' ain't cool...and the internet/videos perpetuate this
I agree but I also think using HSUS to outlaw any type of hunting is a BIG in the wrong direction and then lies about it. This Roger Kaseman is the chairman of thie petition.
ND Fair Chase, What Have You Done?
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North Dakota Fair Chase, What Have You Done?
Posted by Tom Remington on April 7, 2008
Some of the arch enemies of hunting and fishing are groups such as the Humane Society of the United States, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals and a entire host of other off the wall animal rights groups whose priorities are quite skewed, to be polite about it. To stay abreast of what the whackos are doing, I subscribe to alerts from some of these groups. Also on occasion I visit the sites and see what projects or movements they might be supporting at any given time.
This all takes me back the North Dakota Hunters for Fair Chase group who are trying to put a stop to high-fence hunting in their state. They have drafted a referendum they hope to put on the ballot in November of 2008 and are in the process of collecting some 13,000 legitimate registered North Dakota voter’s signatures. Am I to assume they are having a difficult time in accomplishing that?
On April 4, 2008, President and CEO of the Humane Society of the United States sent out a newsletter seeking help to stop canned hunting in North Dakota.
Dear Friend,
North Dakota voters have the opportunity to stop the trophy shooting of captive animals trapped behind fences — an inhumane and unsportsmanlike practice opposed by hunters and non-hunters alike — but only with your help. These “canned hunting” operations offer wealthy customers the opportunity to kill tame, captive animals for guaranteed trophies. Get involved today in stopping this unethical practice.
Both hunters and non-hunters condemn canned hunting, but it has not yet been outlawed in North Dakota. Be part of the team that puts this critical issue on the November statewide ballot! The campaign must collect 12,844 valid signatures by the end of July, and we need your help.
If you have volunteered to gather signatures already, thank you! If not, please sign up today. Email Karen at
rthunsh@srt.com or call 701-839-6210.
Just a little of your time will help give North Dakotans the chance to vote to stop canned hunting this fall.
Sincerely,
Wayne Pacelle
President & CEO
The Humane Society of the United States
Ooops!! This is not good for this elitist group, especially after having made these statements at the Bismark Tribune’s forums on February 26, 2008. Roger Kaseman heads up the North Dakota Hunters for Fair Chase and in this thread, he was spelling out what he referred to as the truth behind his efforts.
Here are the facts:
I am a lifelong hunter. I have been hunting for 47 years.
I am not, nor is the Fair Chase Hunters organization an anti-hunting group.
I am not, nor are any members of the organization anti-land owner right. A majority of the members are either hunters, or landowners, or both.
We have not and do not intend to seek the endorsement of any anti-hunting group.
Contrary to Show Me’s accusation, we are not in bed with HSUS, nor will we be.
I am sure anti-hunting organizations will offer financial support for the campaign when we qualify the intuitive for the ballot. The committee is unanimous; we will turn down that support.
What HSUS places on their web site is beyond my control.
Who HSUS or any other organization endorses is beyond my control and beyond the control of any member of the Fair Chase Committee.
If the NDHFFC will turn down the support of any anti-hunting group, then all of us are anxiously awaiting the public refusal of help from HSUS. Kaseman makes a good point when he says that he has no control over what organizations endorse his group or what they might put on their website but this might go a little bit beyond that.
According to what I have been able to dig up so far and what I found also at the Bismark Tribune’s forums, it appears that someone called the “Karen” listed at the phone number on the HSUS newsletter. According to the poster at the Tribune’s forums, Karen said she was working for Roger Kaseman and had been contacted by him seeking assistance.
From: Ron and Karen (rthunsh@srt.com)
Sent: Sat 4/05/08 3:54 PM
To: dewey curren (dcurren77@hotmail.com)
Cc: Roger Kaseman (lsrkbek@bektel.com)
Dear Mr Curren.
Enjoyed talking to you. As I stated when we talked I am a private North Dakota resident just trying to help get the fair chase initiative up to the voters. The Humane Society is just trying to help ensure that all residents…including non hunters get a chance to express their view on this issue. But it is a program solely of the Fair Chase Committee. Thank you so much for your inquiry on this important issue.
Therefore any donation you wish to give to support the right to vote on this unethical practice should go to:
Roger Kaseman, Fair Chase Committee
8120 17th Avenue S. E.
Linton, North Dakota 58552
701-245-4875
So, Karen is a private North Dakota resident just trying to the initiative up for the residents of North Dakota to vote on. Is it common practice to use HSUS resources for “private” citizens to “help get the fair chase initiative up to the voters”? She further directs Mr. Curren to send his donation to Roger Kaseman. Not HSUS mind you but directly to Roger Kaseman of the North Dakota Hunters for Fair Chase Committee.
Anyone who has an ounce of respect for the hunting and fishing industry and everyone who supports and subscribes to it, would publicly deny any support of any kind from this group or any other like them. Kaseman is correct. He can’t control what HSUS puts on their site but he sure as heck can stand up in a public forum a denounce any kind of support from the likes of these people. Will it happen?
If Kaseman and the rest of the “unanimous” committee who said, “we will turn down that support”, were truthful and have not changed their minds, we can look forward to a public refusal of HSUS’ help. Any short of a complete disassociation from HSUS or any other animal rights groups will certainly tell the voters of North Dakota who is really behind this movement.
This link will take you to more articles on the North Dakota initiative and other fair chase issues.
Tom Remington