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#709762 - 06/12/07 08:19 AM WV bounty on coyotes
plumbob Offline
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Registered: 01/17/05
Posts: 762
Loc: Dixon, MO
Here is a article from my hometown newspaper

CHARLESTON — Paying bounties to hunters is not an effective method of lowering the burgeoning coyote population in West Virginia, a Division of Natural Resources game expert says.

At the same time, Paul Johansen says he applauds the efforts of Smokie Coyote Hunt Club to encourage predator hunting.

For several months, club founder Doug Prichard has stumped the state in so far unsuccessful efforts to corral public funds to defray the $25 paid for each coyote brought in.

To date, Prichard has formed 20 chapters of his club, named after a prize coonhound victimized by a pack of coyotes in a hunt several years ago.

“Evidence is overwhelming and crystal clear — bounties simply do not work as an appropriate control mechanism,” says Johansen, assistant chief of game management for the DNR.

“Literally hundreds of millions of dollars were spent in North America, much of it in western states for years and years on paying for coyote bounties. They didn’t work. The population has not been controlled.”

Moreover, Johansen says, the bounty system is saddled with a number of setbacks.

“One of the biggest ones is fraud,” he said, “such as people claiming they killed a coyote when they picked it up in a road kill.”

What’s more, he says, coyotes are extremely adaptable, capable of adjusting to hunting pressure, whether that is executed in a trap or at the point of a rifle.

“They respond to mortality, adjust to reproductive potentials and are extremely capable of surviving in a habitat appropriate to that species,” Johansen says.

“There’s no question that coyotes are here to stay. They’re part of the natural eco-system here in West Virginia.”

Johansen also disputes Prichard’s belief that coyotes are making serious inroads into the deer and turkey populations in this state, threatening a multimillion-dollar hunting industry.

In fact, he said, the number of deer victimized by coyotes to sustain their diet is “probably rather insignificant.”

“There is clear evidence that in some regions of the country, coyote degradation can have an impact on deer population,” he said.

But this is in the northern latitude where severe winters usher in huge and long-lasting snowfalls, and deer tend to “yard,” or cluster, to preserve energy.

“In severe winter months, they tend to cluster under cover to get out of the elements and to conserve nutritional needs,” the DNR official said.

“That’s usually associated with areas in the East, in New England. Yarding is a behavior pattern we don’t see in West Virginia.”

That isn’t to say a coyote wouldn’t chow down on a fawn if the opportunity arose, he said.

“Do coyotes eat deer?” Johansen asked rhetorically.

“You bet they do. If they can get something in their mouths and chew it, they’re going to eat it. But when you talk about population dynamics and the significance of that impact, the impact on the deer population is rather significant.”

Prichard referred to statistics showing that 70 percent of fawns this will year will be wiped out by coyotes. He also said the turkey population in some parts has fallen by 50 percent or greater — another point that Johansen disputed.

“There’s absolutely no evidence to indicate that,” he said of turkeys.

The fact is, he said, ample research has shown that only one turkey has been victimized by a coyote and even that kill is only suspected, not proven, Johansen said.

While Prichard paints a grim picture of coyotes massing to the point they have wiped out 300 cats in his Oceana hometown, Johansen cited the work of a retired federal agent who estimated their numbers at between 20,000 and 40,000.

“There is no definitive way to say what the population is,” he said.

“I would certainly characterize the coyote population as statewide. They’re in every county. They’re extremely healthy and have certainly expanded into all 55 counties.”

West Virginians may hunt coyotes year-long in daylight hours, but night hunts are limited from Jan. 1 to July 31. The abbreviated nocturnal hunting is explained by the concern that landowners might confuse gunfire with poachers hunting deer at night out of season, Johansen said.

Johansen says farmers and other livestock owners can get help in ridding their land of troublesome coyotes in a government program that targets those attacking domestic animals.

“That’s a learned behavior,” he said. “Not every coyote engages in it.”

As for homeowners worried about pets, Johansen offers a simple suggestion — don’t leave cat and dog food in dishes at night, when coyotes go foraging.

Based on experiences elsewhere, Johansen says he doubts a bounty system is ever going to make any inroads into thinning the ranks of coyotes.

“However, I applaud the group (Smokie Club) for its efforts to encourage the recreational pursuit of coyotes, either through trapping or predator hunting,” he said.

“I think that’s probably a good thing.”
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#709763 - 06/12/07 08:30 AM Re: WV bounty on coyotes [Re: plumbob]
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I think a few of us should make a trip to WV and get together with some of those Ol' Boys.... We might be able to pay for the gas and other expenses.
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#709764 - 06/12/07 08:36 AM Re: WV bounty on coyotes [Re: OldTurtle]
plumbob Offline
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Registered: 01/17/05
Posts: 762
Loc: Dixon, MO
I'm going homeo n leave next month. I might see if I can take my dad out one day. When I joined the military 11 yrs ago, I never heard of any coyotes around, now they are everywhere there.
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#709765 - 06/12/07 09:23 AM Re: WV bounty on coyotes [Re: plumbob]
GC Offline
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Registered: 04/21/01
Posts: 12831
Loc: Missouri
Some of the counties I hunt in Missouri used to pay a $15.00 bounty on coyotes. You had to haul them to the county courthouse and get a clerk to come outside and inspect the animal. The clerk had to witness you clip an ear off to prevent you bringing the animal back in a second time. They would then pay the bounty. I got to know a couple of the young lady clerks fairly well. They did not like looking at the dead coyotes, and, didn't want to come out of their warm office on those frigid cold snowy days. After several trips and getting to know them a little, they'd just pay me the bounty without the inspection. I never ripped them off. That was back when hides brought a few dollars and between the bounty and a decent price on the fur a guy could pay for gas, handloading supplies, and a few odds and ends. I was struggling through college back then and every penny counted!
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#709766 - 06/12/07 10:18 AM Re: WV bounty on coyotes [Re: GC]
OldTurtle Online
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Loc: East Central FL
Plumbob, Good luck on your trip back home... Enjoy the time with your dad.. It will mean a lot to him.
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#709767 - 06/14/07 07:09 AM Re: WV bounty on coyotes [Re: OldTurtle]
WLONG Offline
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Registered: 02/06/07
Posts: 154
Loc: West Virginia
Plumbob,
Where is home? I am in Martinsburg, but am originally from Michigan.

My mom and dad lived in Lebanon, Mo for a few years. Small world.

Bill

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#709768 - 06/14/07 10:57 AM Re: WV bounty on coyotes [Re: WLONG]
plumbob Offline
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Registered: 01/17/05
Posts: 762
Loc: Dixon, MO
I'm from right around Beckley, about 15 minutes south.
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#709769 - 06/14/07 08:28 PM Re: WV bounty on coyotes [Re: plumbob]
vahunter Offline
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Registered: 01/20/07
Posts: 1110
Loc: Virginia
Here in Virginia the county I live in has a $50.00 bounty. The next county over has a $75.00 one.

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#709770 - 06/15/07 10:48 AM Re: WV bounty on coyotes [Re: vahunter]
GC Offline
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Registered: 04/21/01
Posts: 12831
Loc: Missouri
I'll bet that if many people were collecting bounties at those rates, the county would drop that pretty quick! If a bounty is going on the head of what they consider destructive animals, they should include skunks, coons, and possums. Wouldn't hurt to thin out the hawk population a little either! I know that is federal and out state or county control, but the raptors have had protection for a long time and their populations are booming, plus some.
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#709771 - 06/15/07 07:33 PM Re: WV bounty on coyotes [Re: GC]
vahunter Offline
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Registered: 01/20/07
Posts: 1110
Loc: Virginia
That's just it GC, there isn't that many coyotes here and with the bounty the ones that are here are pretty well educated.

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#709772 - 06/15/07 08:45 PM Re: WV bounty on coyotes [Re: vahunter]
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Registered: 04/23/01
Posts: 183
Loc: Elkhorn, NE USA
You're right, GC. Hawks are some of the most efficient predators on our game birds. Used to be that they were all called "chicken hawks" and everyone shot them on sight. Now they all have names and are all protected. In the fall, you see them sitting on every other telephone pole here in Nebraska, just waiting for a pheasant to make a move in the ditch or fenceline.
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