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#2768394 - 12/31/14 08:15 AM Re: help new reloaders [Re: varmentwacker]
scoremaster Offline
Seasoned Member

Registered: 02/17/06
Posts: 204
Loc: western MD ( garrett county)
that's why I set my reloading bench up in the garage most time the kids and the wife don't come in there and I can keep focused on what im doing . just to touch on the subject of books I use sierra book for load working as they kinda get you started in the right direction with a accuracy load but that comes with a grain of salt as like said before that comes with their barrel and action and controlled conditions not ral world outside stuff. but I feel they have the best info for me .
and then on the other end of the spectrum I also like the nosler book as it touches on case capacity and this was mentioned before about underloading or light loads . the slower the powder the fuller the case and the fuller the case the better the burn . now this also takes some careful watching as not all is equal in the world as we know it . so yes to all that was said about take your time read study and then make your plans . keep your area clean and clear and only do one thing at a time no powder till it's time to put it in no primers on the table while your cleaning cases and so forth and get a plan and stick with it do everything in order the same everytime all the time that way there are no missed steps . there is a lot of great advice here . these are just some of mine . right now I can figure about 50 -60 dollors to load 100 300 weatherby shells ,but this don't figure in the cases dies and press priming tool and other little things that one may need so if just shooting a few rounds a year reloading may not be economical but if you want to learn something new by all means give it a go .

and don't forget to clean primer pockets . my father in law don't and it drives me crazy lol.

Scott
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#2774344 - 01/08/15 11:18 AM Re: help new reloaders [Re: varmentwacker]
johnnyjr Offline
Predator Master

Registered: 01/04/15
Posts: 72
Loc: new york
my advice is,never listen to what others tell you unless your sure that they know what they are talking about..a lot of false information is out there..

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#2793186 - 02/06/15 06:36 AM Re: help new reloaders [Re: varmentwacker]
Silver Belly62 Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 01/29/15
Posts: 43
Loc: NJ
Just getting into reloading myself, a lot of good info posted in this thread


Edited by Silver Belly62 (02/06/15 06:37 AM)

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#2798155 - 02/15/15 06:58 AM Re: help new reloaders [Re: varmentwacker]
gamestalkertwo Offline
New Member

Registered: 02/05/15
Posts: 21
Loc: Arizona
Although temperature sensitivity is real, of course, it's not something that is going to KB a modern action, especially a typical varmint barrel. I've been loading with powders that are considered as very temperature sensitive for better than 30 yrs., and I'm not one to run my loads on the light side either, not by any stretch. For many years I've worked max charges up at cold temps, and at hot temps, then used them in reverse conditions, never had anything more than some obvious higher than usual pressures present, but nothing that screams danger!

In short, anyone that KB's a modern action is doing something critically wrong, and it isn't temperature causing it. They're either using the wrong powder, using a fast burning powder with the wrong data, or a heavier bullet than what the data was supposed to be for. Bottom line, it's not a temperature issue.

It boils down making sure all aspects of the components and data correlate. this is why I log my loads before I load them. That way when i finish a batch I can go back and verify that everything is what it's supposed to be. And that if I experience any high pressure signs, I can identify the cause with absolute certainty.

GS2

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#2812596 - 03/14/15 04:42 PM Re: help new reloaders [Re: varmentwacker]
edward5759 Offline
New Member

Registered: 03/06/15
Posts: 3
Loc: Arizona
I started reloading in early 1950s when it was still considered a hazardous hobby. We did not have printed loading data or any real books on the subject. I bought several hundred pounds of the 4895 that Hodgdon was selling in the brown paper bags at the time for about .10 cents per pound it seems cheap but I was making .8 cents an hour pushing shopping carts at the time.
Since then I have owned two reloading shops making custom reloads for people in the 1960s and 1970s when the liability was not too much issue. I won a lot of bench rest matches. that was my advertising. Kept all my customers and load info on 3x5 cards.
Before we reloaded we would sweep the area then with a little dish soap hose the floor down, the dish soap would reduce static electricity on the floor area. Then with a large pan each of the reloading equipment would be washed in dish soap as well to remove static. every thing was steel and pot metal and would collect static. it was not for fear of a boom but a problem to keep dishes and scales steady. Some plastics do the same today.
we would load all lots on one day to keep humidity and loading temperature the same. we did not know how it would affect the load. Smoking was a no. I didn't like it, and never tried it!
We would make a lot of our own reamers for the dies. Many reloaders would request the reamer that the barrel maker would use for chambering for making reloading dies. Thing have changed a lot since then. Then a neighbor came over and asked for help. In his reloading room he had a TV with a football game on the TV several times I would ask a question and he was watching the TV then after a minute he would say "what" I found his distraction annoying. I left
after 15 minutes he realized I was gone. I told him that the only way I would help him if he got rid of the TV, Radio, Dog, from the reloading room first. He didn't come back for a while, till... one day he said he blew his rifle up!
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#2812887 - 03/15/15 11:06 AM Re: help new reloaders [Re: varmentwacker]
CountryWildcat Offline
Seasoned Member

Registered: 03/14/15
Posts: 348
Loc: KS
Thanks guys. I am considering getting into reloading even though I don't shoot many rounds per year. I would just like to be more accurate. As much reading as I do there aren't a lot of places that actually list step by step process and all the equipment necessary. This site and thread have been very informative.

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#2817085 - 03/26/15 12:06 PM Re: help new reloaders [Re: varmentwacker]
sandy hicks Offline
Die Hard Member III

Registered: 03/19/15
Posts: 3171
Loc: southeast texas
My absolutely dont even think about trying it rules to live by
1 pistol primers are stored in different containers than rifle primers
2 pistol and rifle powder are stored in different containers
3 ONLY ONE POWDER ON THE BENCH AT A TIME. ABSOLUTELY NO EXCEPTIONS
4 WEIGH EVERY THIRD ROUND OUT OF THE MEASURE
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#2833917 - 05/24/15 01:24 PM Re: help new reloaders [Re: varmentwacker]
rudymontana Offline
Die Hard Member II

Registered: 11/25/14
Posts: 1035
Loc: Montana,USA
Get your routine down and do it the same each and every time. Don't get distracted! Follow the guidelines and check each shell casing with a light to make sure it has powder and that the primer is seated correctly and flush! This also lets you know how full your cases are with different powder and that nothing went wrong while loading cases. I have only found one in 35 yrs. but, I'm glad I did. I weigh each load on the scale, I don't drop powder directly from drop charger. I'm just anal that way I want to know each load is exactly what it calls for. Enjoy reloading! Millions of people do. Rudy

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#2834543 - 05/27/15 08:54 AM Re: help new reloaders [Re: sandy hicks]
shotgun1919 Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 02/25/15
Posts: 34
Loc: Ashland, Va
When I'm loading precision/hunting rifle rounds I weigh every powder charge
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#2866302 - 09/30/15 02:36 PM Re: help new reloaders [Re: varmentwacker]
Handgunr Offline
Die Hard Member

Registered: 11/03/05
Posts: 571
Loc: Wyoming Co., NY
I'm a lot like Furhunter.....still have a mess of old targets as references.....some of old guns long gone.

I've been doing this since I was very young.....preteen come to think of it. I'm now 58 and have lived though the likes of reading Elmer Keith, Bill Jordan and Skeeter Skelton stuff over the years (couldn't get enough of it either).
I've accumulated a ton of reloading equipment & components, and I've built a special shop just to house it all. The one thing I still do after all these years, regardless of the high production reloading stuff, is still handload all my rifle rounds on a single stage press......taking every step or precaution to make sure they are the best I can do.

Like it has been mentioned here by several........learn the basics, and consider them to be your foundation going forward. Too many nowadays want to skip to the front and just start cranking and loading max. So much is missed out on as well as being dangerous. When I was a younger toad, I couldn't read enough on the subject and I'm so glad I started out that way.....

Bob

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#2866303 - 09/30/15 02:37 PM Re: help new reloaders [Re: varmentwacker]
Handgunr Offline
Die Hard Member

Registered: 11/03/05
Posts: 571
Loc: Wyoming Co., NY
I'm a lot like Furhunter.....still have a mess of old targets as references.....some of old guns long gone.

I've been doing this since I was very young.....preteen come to think of it. I'm now 58 and have lived though the likes of reading Elmer Keith, Bill Jordan and Skeeter Skelton stuff over the years (couldn't get enough of it either).
I've accumulated a ton of reloading equipment & components, and I've built a special shop just to house it all. The one thing I still do after all these years, regardless of the high production reloading stuff, is still handload all my rifle rounds on a single stage press......taking every step or precaution to make sure they are the best I can do.

Like it has been mentioned here by several........learn the basics, and consider them to be your foundation going forward. Too many nowadays want to skip to the front and just start cranking and loading max. So much is missed out on as well as being dangerous. When I was a younger toad, I couldn't read enough on the subject and I'm so glad I started out that way.....

Bob

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#2866304 - 09/30/15 02:38 PM Re: help new reloaders [Re: varmentwacker]
Handgunr Offline
Die Hard Member

Registered: 11/03/05
Posts: 571
Loc: Wyoming Co., NY
I'm a lot like Furhunter.....still have a mess of old targets as references.....some of old guns long gone.

I've been doing this since I was very young.....preteen come to think of it. I'm now 58 and have lived though the likes of reading Elmer Keith, Bill Jordan and Skeeter Skelton stuff over the years (couldn't get enough of it either).
I've accumulated a ton of reloading equipment & components, and I've built a special shop just to house it all. The one thing I still do after all these years, regardless of the high production reloading stuff, is still handload all my rifle rounds on a single stage press......taking every step or precaution to make sure they are the best I can do.

Like it has been mentioned here by several........learn the basics, and consider them to be your foundation going forward. Too many nowadays want to skip to the front and just start cranking and loading max. So much is missed out on as well as being dangerous. When I was a younger toad, I couldn't read enough on the subject and I'm so glad I started out that way.....

Bob

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#2866305 - 09/30/15 02:42 PM Re: help new reloaders [Re: varmentwacker]
Handgunr Offline
Die Hard Member

Registered: 11/03/05
Posts: 571
Loc: Wyoming Co., NY
.......sorry gang, browsers been acting up

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#2882307 - 11/13/15 05:10 AM Re: help new reloaders [Re: varmentwacker]
Aiden12 Offline
New Member

Registered: 11/12/15
Posts: 3
Loc: punjab,india
I second the caution regarding "favorite" loads. When I first started I tended to want to test the max loads in the manual. I usually find better accuracy from loads that are dialed down slightly.

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#2895844 - 12/13/15 03:34 PM Re: help new reloaders [Re: varmentwacker]
COYOTEKILLERMILLER Offline
Seasoned Member

Registered: 11/16/02
Posts: 218
Loc: FLINT HILLS OF KANSAS
Never ever ,..ever never Drink while reloading.
I personally don't ,.. But have a few select friends that do,.. It always catches up to them.
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