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#601784 - 01/15/07 05:12 PM help new reloaders
varmentwacker Offline
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Registered: 06/29/06
Posts: 2036
Loc: TYLER TX
i have notice there seems to be a lot of new guys that have started reloading.i think we should let these guys know a few things to keep them safe.here are a few things that i have come up with. 1. always wear eye protection. 2.for you guys that are loading thier on pills right now during the cold months beware with some powders these loads are fine during the winter and cold months but during the hot months they can blow up in your face.i have seen this happen at our local gun range.thank the lord nobody got hurt.i mean there was chunks of the gun missing that could not be found.if you are pushing max loads during the winter do not shoot these during the summer.work some more loads up and pay close attention to the pressure signs.my self if i am using powders that are not extream powders (BL-C2) i try to find a load in the middle so i can use it year round.even at that you will not believe how these loads can change during the summer months.i work up most of my loads during the cold months because it dosent take long for barrell to cool.i am sure there will be a lot added to this but this is a good start.one of my fav sayings.a young man that rolls his own bullets wont be rolling nothing else.i have raised 3 boys and one nephew that proves this right.


Edited by varmentwacker (01/15/07 07:33 PM)
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#601785 - 01/15/07 05:22 PM Re: new reloaders [Re: varmentwacker]
Wingman26 Offline
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Registered: 12/10/06
Posts: 802
Loc: Shawnee Oklahoma
A lot of new reloaders tend to ignore the advice in the reloading books, you see their posts on various message boards where they have just started loading and went right to the maximum loads listed in the reloading books.

Reloading books list their loads in different ways, some only give the maximum loads and advise to start at 10% lower, and some others list a starting load and a max load, if there is a starting load, use it!

If there is only one load listed, start at 10% LESS, and as mentioned, don't go to max loads in cold weather, it might cause a problem when the weather gets hot.

One of the major things, get a good reloading book and read it!

Here's a good one and it's a new edition, so it's up to date: http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=438424
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#601786 - 01/15/07 05:30 PM Re: new reloaders [Re: varmentwacker]
Nic_58 Offline
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Registered: 12/23/04
Posts: 475
Loc: Mizzou
One piece of advice that I think is very important when reloading is to stay focused on the task at hand and not get distracted by the kids, pets, wife, TV, etc.

You need your reloading bench in a place where you can get away from it all so you can keep your attention directed on what you are doing so as not to double charge a case or try to prime a case that's already primed and so on.

Reloading is fun and rewarding but it can be dangerous if you don't pay attention!

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#601787 - 01/15/07 06:14 PM Re: new reloaders [Re: Nic_58]
varmentwacker Offline
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Registered: 06/29/06
Posts: 2036
Loc: TYLER TX
this is good stuff lets keep it going.i changed the title so maybe it will get more input.there is a lot of guys that can add to this one.


Edited by varmentwacker (01/15/07 07:39 PM)
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#601788 - 01/15/07 08:38 PM Re: new reloaders [Re: varmentwacker]
Pickaway Mick Offline
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Registered: 11/06/02
Posts: 203
Loc: Pickaway County,Ohio
Safety is everything.Velocity isn`t.

Besides....working up loads in small increments is good practice.Uniformity is a must.

Starting loads with just small increments in overall length with firefomed,neck sized brass has proven pretty effective,and easy on the rifle...... and bullet.

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#601789 - 01/15/07 08:48 PM Re: new reloaders [Re: Pickaway Mick]
Totch94 Offline
Die Hard Member II

Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 1796
Loc: Central Mississippi
I like it!

I'm a new reloader and I am trying to learn everything I can to get started. Please keep it coming, I'm going to print this out and put it in my reloading books.

Interested in any mistakes you may have made when getting started. Hopefully I can learn from them and not make them myself.
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#601790 - 01/15/07 08:59 PM Re: new reloaders [Re: Pickaway Mick]
broknaero Offline
Die Hard Member II

Registered: 02/18/06
Posts: 1405
Loc: Pennsylvania
You guys put in some good stuff. I was going to say what Wingman26 said. Get a good reloading book and read it! not just the loads, but all of it! the steps ,the safety, and how to recognise excessive pressure. A book I reccomend is the ABC's of reloading. Outlines everything you need, and dont need and how to safely use it to get started.

I would aslo add... Be careful of someones "Favorite " loads you get online. Every rifle likes something different. Thats why manuals have a Min. and a Max. load. Stay whithin these lines, they are there for a reason. Also know that too low of a charge can be as dangerous as too hot of a load.

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#601791 - 01/15/07 09:21 PM Re: new reloaders [Re: broknaero]
Nic_58 Offline
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Registered: 12/23/04
Posts: 475
Loc: Mizzou
Here's a good link for someone who is just getting started into reloading. Back before the days of the internet, I sent into RCBS and they mailed me out a copy of the Step-By-Step Reloading Guide. It helped me out immensely as I was on my own back then. Here is a link to it online at RCBS's website.....

RCBS Step-By-Step Reloading Guide

You can click on the box in the middle of the page to print it out or just view it step by step by clicking on the links in the left hand column.

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#601792 - 01/15/07 09:27 PM Re: new reloaders [Re: Nic_58]
Sam243 Offline
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Registered: 12/21/05
Posts: 38
Loc: Pennsylvania
I second the caution regarding "favorite" loads. When I first started I tended to want to test the max loads in the manual. I usually find better accuracy from loads that are dialed down slightly.

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#601793 - 01/15/07 09:36 PM Re: new reloaders [Re: Sam243]
broknaero Offline
Die Hard Member II

Registered: 02/18/06
Posts: 1405
Loc: Pennsylvania
Your right Sam! Alot of times people sacrafice a little accuracy for a little more speed. The max load isnt always the most accurate. A coyote getting hit with my .17Rem doesnt know the difference between 3700fps or 4000fps.

Some loads Ive been offered online are well above or below anything I've ever found posted. The lower, or reduced loads are usualy found when searching for that "fur friendly" load. Especialy with something as fast as a .17Rem Ive looked for a fur friendly load for fox. Ive been given some down right dangerous loads. This is advice you are getting from complete strangers who may or may not know anything about reloading, and may not care about your safety.
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#601794 - 01/15/07 09:39 PM Re: new reloaders [Re: Sam243]
Jack Roberts Offline
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Registered: 05/10/01
Posts: 15854
Loc: Elko, NV formerly MD
The loads listed in a manual may not be safe in your rifle. Depending on lots of things but mostly weather your chamber is larger or smaller than average, max loads may be seriously overpressure. That's why you always have to work up loads.

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#601795 - 01/16/07 02:33 AM Re: new reloaders [Re: Jack Roberts]
varmentwacker Offline
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Registered: 06/29/06
Posts: 2036
Loc: TYLER TX
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#601796 - 01/16/07 02:48 AM Re: help new reloaders [Re: varmentwacker]
backy33 Offline
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Registered: 01/24/06
Posts: 623
Loc: South Dakota
Can you give me some examples of extreme powders. I know what I need to know to be a safe reloader but I'm no expert on powders and do like to load close to the max load to get a little extra speed for a moving shot if it's needed. What powders are on the safe side and what are hotter burning??? This is something I've always wanted answered but thought this would be a good post to do it. I do understand there are many many powders out there but some examples would be good to open some people's eyes to this important part of reloading.

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#601797 - 01/16/07 03:30 AM Re: help new reloaders [Re: backy33]
varmentwacker Offline
Die Hard Member III

Registered: 06/29/06
Posts: 2036
Loc: TYLER TX


Edited by varmentwacker (01/16/07 03:32 AM)
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#601798 - 01/16/07 05:56 AM Re: help new reloaders [Re: varmentwacker]
Varmonter Offline
Die Hard Member

Registered: 08/15/06
Posts: 539
Loc: varmont
hodgdons line of extreme powders are not suppose to be effected as much with temp estremes . Remember. As your barrel
heats up depending on how long the new round sits in the chamber it can also get hot.
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