NASA, I don't remember that, But then again I didn't go to all the state meetings. As I think you know I live in the Mojave ( Apple Valley) and had my picture in COLOR on the FRONT PAGE of the local paper LOL( East Mojave hunter speakes out) it didn't work but I tried. What chapter were you in? By the way, one of the founding fathers of the California Varmint Callers Asso. WAS the director of the DFG. I won't say his whole name but you can check it out, Don C. great guy but was not a Liberal LOL, Good Hunting.