Know Thy Enemy

Frankie B.

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This an article from the Patriot Post. It exemplifies the lack of knowledge on the part of most politicians.
These lackluster morons are running our country????
Frankie B.

Know thy enemy
In a sit-down interview with Congressional Quarterly earlier this week, Rep. Silvestre Reyes, the five-term Texas Democrat and incoming chair of the House Intelligence Committee, flunked a pretty simple quiz.

When asked whether al-Qa’ida was Sunni or Shi’ite, Reyes answered, “They are probably both.” He then compounded his ignorance: “You’re talking about predominantly? Predominantly—probably Shi’ite.”

Wrong. Very wrong. In fact, al-Qa’ida’s raison d’etre is the purification of Sunni Islam, which Osama bin Laden considers tainted by the Saudi royal family’s personal corruption and alliance with the United States. Shi’ite Muslims, on the other hand, are heretics deserving of death for their perversion of the “one true religion.”

Then Reyes, who also sits on the House Armed Service Committee, was asked the same question with regard to Hizballah.

“Hizballah. Uh, Hizballah...” Laughing nervously and shifting in his seat, Reyes evaded. “Why do you ask me these questions at five o’clock? Can I answer in Spanish? Do you speak Spanish?”

In the end, Reyes confessed that he didn’t know the answer, despite the fact that Hizballah has existed as a terrorist arm of Iran for more than two decades, from the 1983 bombing of the Marine barracks in Beirut that killed 241 of our servicemen, to the political assassinations, the attacks on Israel and the attempts to bring Lebanon under Hizballah control today. It’s equally worth noting that Hizballah, which means “Party of God,” is now helping train Iraqi Shi’ites to kill Iraqi Sunnis in that country’s internecine conflict.

“Know thy enemy” is perhaps the oldest maxim of warfare, yet Rep. Reyes’ ignorance appears to be the rule rather than the exception.

Last summer, the same sort of question was posed by CQ to Republicans Terry Everett and Jo Ann Davis. Rep. Everett, a seven-term Congressman from Alabama, is outgoing vice chairman of the House intelligence subcommittee on technical and tactical intelligence. Rep. Davis, of Virginia, is outgoing head of the House intelligence subcommittee that oversees the CIA’s recruitment of Muslims to infiltrate Islamist organizations and its analysis of the information these agents provide.

“Do you know the difference between a Sunni and a Shi’ite?” CQ’s national security editor, Jeff Stein, asked Everett. “One’s in one location, another’s in another location,” Everett asserted. “No, to be honest with you, I don’t know. I thought it was differences in their religion, different families or something.” After Stein briefly explained the differences, Rep. Everett replied, “Now that you’ve explained it to me, what occurs to me is that it makes what we’re doing over there extremely difficult, not only in Iraq but that whole area.”

You don’t say.

Davis didn’t fare any better when asked the same question. “Do I?” she replied. “You know, I should. It’s a difference in their fundamental religious beliefs. The Sunni are more radical than the Shi’a. Or vice versa. But I think it’s the Sunnis who’re more radical than the Shi’a.”

“And what is al-Qa’ida,” Stein asked? “Al-Qa’ida is the one that’s most radical, so I think they’re Sunni,” Davis decided. “I may be wrong, but I think that’s right.” Davis then summarized the importance of knowing the difference: “al-Qa’ida’s whole reason for being is based on their beliefs, and you’ve got to understand, and to know your enemy.”

Some might say that congressmen have oversight responsibilities, and that they’re not the ones directly responsible for counterterrorism efforts; that it’s the officials engaged in security and intelligence that know better. Yet, when asked, a number of high-ranking counterterrorism officials had no idea what the 1,400-year-old schism in Islam that defines the battle lines in Iraq and across the Middle East is all about.

Willie Hulon, chief of the FBI’s national security arm, was all but clueless. “The basics goes [sic] back to their beliefs and who they were following.” Asked which one Iran and Hizballah are, Hulon took his chances: “Sunni.” Wrong. Al-Qa’ida? “Sunni.” Right. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Then there was the interview with Dale Watson, until recently the FBI’s head of counterterrorism. The interviewer asked, “Do you know who Osama bin Laden’s spiritual leader was?” “Can’t recall.” “Do you know the differences in the religion between Shi’a and Sunni Muslims?” “Not technically, no.”

It gets worse. Last year another top FBI counterterrorism official, John Lewis, was asked, “Was there any relationship between the first World Trade Center bombing and the 9/11 attacks?”

“I’m aware of no immediate relationship, other than it all emanates, you know, out of the Middle East, al-Qa’ida linkage, I believe,” Lewis contrived. “Not something I’ve studied recently that I’m conversant with.” (Like the others, he didn’t know the difference between a Sunni and a Shi’ite, either.)

Gary Bald, the FBI’s most recent counterterrorism and counterintelligence chief (the sixth since 9/11), waved off the question entirely. “You don’t need subject matter expertise,” Bald scoffed. “The subject matter expertise is helpful, but it isn’t a prerequisite. It is certainly not what I look for in selecting an official for a position in the counterterrorism [program].”

This, of course, begs the following question: Does knowing the basic differences between the two major branches of Islam really constitute “subject matter expertise”?

Apparently it does in the FBI, where five years after 9/11, only 33 of the Bureau’s 12,000 agents have even minimal knowledge of Arabic, and until recently new agents received only two hours in Arab-culture training. Nor is the FBI alone. Courtesy of the State Department, only six people at the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad are fluent in Arabic. The CIA has struggled to recruit and retain analysts and operatives with these skills. Rare, too, is the Army unit that can communicate directly with the Iraqis they encounter, or assess captured enemy documents on the spot. From top to bottom, knowledge of Islam and the Middle East is all but absent.

Yet this knowledge matters—immensely. Only this week, Saudi Arabia announced its intention to support Iraqi Sunnis should the U.S. withdraw its troops. Iran and Hizballah are, already, supporting Iraqi Shi’ites. Meanwhile, Iraq’s Shi’ite-dominated army announced a plan to begin taking over security responsibilities from U.S. forces in Baghdad, in essence making the country’s Shi’ite-Sunni conflict its own. In Afghanistan, Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, leader of the Taliban-allied Hezb-e-Islami guerillas, defiantly proclaimed Republican election losses as a victory for the mujahedeen—proving he definitely knows more about us than we know about him.

Further, Iranian elections for city councils and the Assembly of Experts are slated for today, and the outcome could significantly affect President Mahmud Ahmadi-Nejad’s hold on power. Also, as Iran continues to pursue nuclear weapons, this week the Saudis and their Sunni neighbors all but announced their intent to follow suit, cooperating in matters of nuclear-energy development. If that’s not enough, the FBI warns that a “medical emergency” experienced by imprisoned al-Qa’ida spiritual leader Omar Abdel-Rahman, the infamous “Blind Sheikh” who inspired the first World Trade Center attack, could prompt al-Qa’ida retaliation against the U.S.

And that’s just the news this week, all undergirded by the Sunni-Shi’ite cleavage. With the likes of Iran and al-Qa’ida fueling violence in the region, and our troops’ lives on the line, maybe—just maybe—these are enemies worth getting to know.
 
I have to wonder why the "mainsteam" media has never pointed out this type of shortcoming in our leaders.... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif

Good Post /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif
 
Heck, even the local media keep quiet about the 1.6 to 2 billion dollar deficit with the state budget. Now it comes out after this idiot governor has bought enough votes to get back in office.
I guess I"m just too stupid and don't know what's best for me /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif
 
Our mainstream media are too stupid or lazy to even realize how stupid the politicians are (or too hostile to care). Even that article just barely skims the surface.

Iran is Shi'ite, but has supported al Qaeda and (in one way or another) almost every Islamic terror attack in the world since the eighties, whether Shi'a or Sunni sponsored.

Al Qaeda is (nominally) Sunni, but their main stated goal is to topple the (Sunni) Saudi government.

Much of the "Sunni" insurrection in Iraq isn't religious at all, it's Saddam leftovers from the Bath political party (also in Syria).

Much of the Shi'ite insurrection in Iraq is likewise non-religious. The "Mahdi Army" is a bunch of followers (tribesman) of a Sheik who has been roundly condemned by virtually all of the Muslim clerics. Their "war" is a raw power and money grab (and revenge) against the Sunnis nearby.

The justification for joining a "jihad" or an insurrection, or a terrorist group, may be religion, but the REAL reason is that the Sheik tells the father, who then tells the son, that it's the thing he should do. A son who rebels against his father's wishes is not only an outcast to his family, he's an outcast to everyone, ultimately to all Muslims. He may or may not be a "true believer" at heart, but he will do as his father wishes.

Middle eastern (not just Arab) culture is extremely patrimonial and extremely tribal. The British understood that, and held fathers responsible for the actions of the sons, and Sheiks responsible for the actions of their tribesman, because they really are responsible.

Fortunately we do have people in the intelligence organizations themselves that are pretty well clued in, but the fact that members of a congressional intelligence committee are so ignorant is scary.

Scarier still is the Pelosi plan to give intelligence info to the even more ignorant publicity hounds on the appropriations committee, who will surely spill what they think they know to the ignorant (or hostile) media.

Some days I despair for our future.
 
The person that coined the phrase "We have found the enemey and he is amongst us", I think, would definitely say it applys here!!!!!

Redhound80
 
Have you ever come to the conclusion that these wackos need a iron fist dictator to keep them in line. We need to watch our borders a little better.
 
Hey tcusparky,

You have got to be kidding me. Wisconsin has around a 2 billion dollar deficit? What a coinsidence. Well guess what, we here in Minnesota just found out that we have about a 2 billion dollar surplus. That's right, we just found out that our state government has been stealing from us /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif. Problem is nobbody knows where to spend it. Nevermind the fact that the tax payers are already on the hook to foot the bill for two new sport stadiums. One is for a left wing political orginization (the University of Minnesota) and the other is for the multi billionaire Twins owner(Carl Pollad). The general consensus is that we should just give it all away to government programs. Afterall, the Minneapolis airport needs some new meditation rooms for sensitive muslims. How about this for a radical idea, lets give it to Wisconsin! Then we will be back to even and you guys will be too. No need to thank us, just have the packers go easy on us this week. Afterall, the poor Vikings are still waiting for thier corporate welfare check for a new stadium.
 
Hi all you guys.
If you have not done so, please read my post "Ungratefulness" It says it all.
Frankie B. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif
 
Song Dog,
How about you call your gov and I'll call mine and we'll do lunch next week and get this thing straightened out /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
Don't know who the enemy is? Our Govt. calls them FTO's (Foreign Terrorist Organizations). Here are some of the names they go by.


al Qaeda is Sunni.
They sponsor Sunni Islamic extremist groups, such as Egyptian Islamic Jihad, some members of al-Gama'at al-Islamiyya, the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan, and the Harakat ul-Mujahidin.

Armed Islamic Group (GIA).
They are sponsored by Algerian expatriates and members of the Salafi Group for Call and Combat (GSPC)

HAMAS (Islamic Resistance Movement)
Pro-Palestinian. Receives funding from Palestinian expatriates, Iran, and private benefactors in Saudi Arabia.

The Palestine Islamic Jihad (PIJ)
Pro-Palestinian. They receive financial support from Iran and Syria.

The Hezbollah (Party of God) are Shiite (a.k.a. Islamic Jihad, Revolutionary Justice Organization, Organization of the Oppressed on Earth, and Islamic Jihad for the Liberation of Palestine).
They receive financial support from Iran and Syria.

The Al-Jihad (a.k.a. Egyptian Islamic Jihad, Jihad Group, Islamic Jihad) are Sunni's.
Close partner of al Qaeda. They receive financial support from Iran.

Al-Gama'a al-Islamiyya (Islamic Group, IG) are Sunni's.
Iran, bin Laden, and Afghan militant groups provide financial support to the organization.

Al-Ummah
Radical Muslim group located in Southern India.

Abu Nidal organization (ANO) (a.k.a. Fatah Revolutionary Council, Arab Revolutionary Brigades, Black September, and Revolutionary Organization of Socialist Muslims).
Pro-Palestinian.

Mujahedin-e Khalq Organization (MEK or MKO) (a.k.a. The National Liberation Army of Iran (NLA, the militant wing of the MEK), the People's Mujahidin of Iran (PMOI), National Council of Resistance (NCR), Muslim Iranian Student's Society (front organization used to garner financial support)).

Palestine Liberation Front (PLF)
They receive financial support from Iran and Syria.

Asbat al-Ansar (The Partisans’ League) are Sunni's.
These Palestinians are financed by al Qaeda.


Jaish-e-Mohammed (JEM) (Army of Mohammed)
The JEM has close ties to, and gets funding from, Afghan Arabs, the Taliban, and Osama Bin Laden.

Abu Sayyaf Group (ASG)
Receives support from Islamic extremists in the Middle East and the Mujahidin in Afghanistan.

Jamaat ul-Fuqra
Members have purchased isolated rural compounds in North America to live communally, practice their faith, and plot assassinations and fire-bombings across the United States .
 
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Want to fix things in Iraq?? Lett Saddam free, put him in power. When he was in power he KNEW how to control things.

Frankie B.




I think Frankie B. hit the terrorist (nail) on the head. George SR. knew what stability in the middle east ment. These overeducated youngens had something to learn.
 
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