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#54034 - 02/08/02 08:59 AM Re: Jaguar Photographed In Southern Arizona
yote buster Offline
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Registered: 01/29/02
Posts: 3
Loc: Hokinson, Wa, USA
Just as a note of interest. As a boy I was
hunting with my uncle (Kenneth Kiggins) who was a govt trapper and hound man. We treed
Jaguars two different times in the Nogales area. We took 8mm film and let the cats go. I know on other occasions he saw them as well.
This took place back in the late 60s.

I live in Wa but my heart is still in Az.

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#54035 - 02/08/02 09:52 AM Re: Jaguar Photographed In Southern Arizona
Michael J. McCasland Offline
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Registered: 04/24/01
Posts: 9470
Loc: Tucson,Az
Bob - You are correct. Warner took his picture almost at the same time that Jack got his video. It is believed that those were different cats. This caused renewed interest in studying the Jaguar. Two almost simultaneous sightings are very rare.

Michael

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#54036 - 02/08/02 10:48 AM Re: Jaguar Photographed In Southern Arizona
Bob Mc Offline
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Registered: 04/24/01
Posts: 597
Loc: Fort Jones, California, USA
I just received a new book; so new that I haven't taken the wrapping off it yet, much less had time to read it. Title "Borderland Jaguars" by David E. Brown. Mr. Brown is apparently a wildlife biologist involved in the study of the jaguars along the Arizona/Mexico border. It is available from Amazon.com.

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#54037 - 02/11/02 04:40 PM Re: Jaguar Photographed In Southern Arizona
Rob Meyers Offline
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Registered: 04/20/01
Posts: 357
Loc: SW MT
AZ Game&Fish Department's Jaguar Page http://www.gf.state.az.us/frames/fishwild/jaguar.htm

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#54038 - 02/15/02 02:30 PM Re: Jaguar Photographed In Southern Arizona
Anonymous
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This is an interesting thread, for a couple reasons. First, as anyone who is on the Orvis mailing list would know, because it has been featured for a long time, Warner Glenn did get photos of a Jaguar, butas I understand, it was way down in the New Mexico boot, probably in the pass, I think it's caled San Louis, but judging by the rock formations in the picture, it could be anywhere around Animas, Columbus, Rodeo, area. I used to hunt that area once in a while, and it is a long way from the site of the trip camera photo by Arizona Game and Fish. Anyway, I always got the distinct impression that the Warner Glenn event occured in New Mexico.

Regarding the more recent news, undisclosed area south, and probably a little east (?) of Tucson, that is so obvious that I could guess within a mile, and be very close to correct. I've been in that area also, and that would be a shame to close it off on the pretext that it is now a jaguar site. Just because you have a lost jaguar wander across the border at the rate of once every six years, this is a poor reason to put a fence up and close it off.

I'd love to call one, but then what?

Good hunting. LB

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#54039 - 03/07/02 12:36 PM Re: Jaguar Photographed In Southern Arizona
bullwidgeon Offline
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Registered: 07/27/01
Posts: 17
Loc: mesa az
The photos in 96 came from the Peloncillo Mountains on the on the Arizona/New mexico line and the Barbaquivari Mountains South and a little West of Tucson. I have seen big cat tracks in the Barbaquivaris before but the area is known for a large lion population.
Bret

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#54040 - 03/07/02 02:47 PM Re: Jaguar Photographed In Southern Arizona
VC Offline
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Registered: 03/05/02
Posts: 13
Bulls' right, I know this only because I live in Warners neighborhood, and am familiar with the photo in question. Although, once again, Big Len is certainly in the right area the Peloncillos are just a stones throw away from the bootheel country.Leonard is also correct, we certainly don't need anyone thinking there is, or ever was abreeding population of jag's roaming around southern Arizona. This is just the mana that the greenies drool over to close off prime hunting locals.Lots of locals in these parts whispered in private, that it would have been best if Warner would have just shot the damned thing and said nothing about it.
Vic

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#54041 - 03/12/02 06:18 AM Re: Jaguar Photographed In Southern Arizona
Encore Offline
Die Hard Member II

Registered: 11/02/01
Posts: 1441
Loc: VooDoo, DooDoo
From Arizona Wildlife Views:





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#54042 - 03/12/02 11:29 AM Re: Jaguar Photographed In Southern Arizona
Michael J. McCasland Offline
Retired PM Staff

Registered: 04/24/01
Posts: 9470
Loc: Tucson,Az
Here's an interseting side.

This Thursday night Jack Childs (the fella that runs the camera's that took these pictures) is going to speak at the Thursday night (03/14/2002) meeting of the Southern Arizona Wildlife Callers, inc. Jack will have one of his film's on the Jaguar (not for sale). Jack will also talk and answer any questions that you might have. The meeting is open to the public and you are all welcome to attend.

Date: 03/14/3-2002
Time: 7:00 PM
Where: F.O.P. Lodge
3445 N. Dodge Blvd.
Tucson Arizona

Jack has hunted Lions and Bears with hounds for almost 40 years. He's a true outdoors man and conservationist. I've known Jack for 17 years and I can assure you that he will be giving an excellent talk.

Michael

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#54043 - 03/14/02 02:22 PM Re: Jaguar Photographed In Southern Arizona
Locohead Offline
Seasoned Member

Registered: 11/14/02
Posts: 312
Thanks Encore,

The only thing missing from this thread was a picture. For a month or so, I have been thinking about requesting a picture for this story. Good Research Bro'!

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#54044 - 03/14/02 02:30 PM Re: Jaguar Photographed In Southern Arizona
Encore Offline
Die Hard Member II

Registered: 11/02/01
Posts: 1441
Loc: VooDoo, DooDoo
Nah, fell into my mailbox, literally.


Err, i mean, SOMEone's mailbox, just in case the copyright police are listening in.

That photo and article came from Arizona Wildlife Views, available thru the Arizona Game & Fish Website. www.azgfd.com

Very reasonable subscription rates: i think it's 8bux for a year (which is 6 issues).

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