I watched a rental movie yesterday about Timothy Treadwell; real name Timothy Dexter.You may have heard of him as the Grizzly Man who spent 13 summers living with the grizzlies in a remote part of Alaska.At the end of the 13th summer (2001)the bears ate him and his girl friend.I recommend the movie because I believe it provides important insight into the mind of an animal rights fanatic.There are many more like Treadwell who have lost touch with reality and risk losing everything. It is possible that part of the proceeds from this movie go to the organization Earth People; an organization co-founded by Treadwell.I could not find anything to confirm or deny that possibility.Still,I think the movie has value to us as hunters.After all "Know your enemy".

my wife read me a story on that tree hugen hippy, if you are going to be dum enough to hang out with grizzly then youed better be ready to be lunch after all they are WILD animals.

Weep?I laughed my [beeep] off!

I find the whole mess disgusting!!!

Here is a fool (Treadwell) who thought he was god's gift to bears.

He takes his girlfriend into that situation. From what I understand, she had her share of reservations, now did he back off? Oh hell NO!!! "Sit a little closer to MR. BEAR, SWEETIE"!!!

Now, with the bears killing him he changes his mind. Wants help, tries to enlist her to do something. She starts sobbing and wailing and guess what .......

The bears now think she's the main cuizine.

Now, what really torques me off is that others in the "hugger community" are going to schools and preaching the virtues of Treadwell!!!!

Initiate Gag Reflex!!!!

Three 44s

Oh, you heard "that one" too????

Three 44s

Don't know if it "was" the same young guy[hippy-nature boy], I've seen on TV or not. Pushing his luck, with Grizzley's .

Anyway, I thought then. He won't be around to long. No more "Grizz-Whisperer", eh.

There was a similar show on the Discovery Channel today, only he lived with Wolves in Idaho, he would sit with them and they would lick his face, He brought his Girl friend into the picture and they accepted her as well, Seemed very fishy to me. it was not fishy it was ludicris

Alaskan author Nick Jans wrote the book "The Grizzly Maze" which explains the entire Treadwell fiasco. It's a good read and explains a great deal about bear behavior (both black bear and grizzly/brown). My connections in Alaska all agree that Treadwell was at fault. Too bad he allowed his girlfriend to be killed as well.

Treadwell's girlfriend, Amie Huguenard, was a bunny hugger from right here in Boulder, CO. Everyone in Boulder talked about the "tragedy" of the "accident". I didn't read once in the local papers anything about the "stupidity" of this "fiasco".

Around 15yrs ago. The wife, myself & our 85lb Belgian Malinois/German Shepherd X, name of[Summit]. Were nightime catfishing along the Iowa. We had a Coleman Lantern for light. It cast light in a 30 diameter, around us.

Our dog, was on a 16' chain, anchored to a tree, off the trail by us. Were fishing...Suddenly, Summit goes on alert. Then he lunges up onto his hind legs. Chomping the air, visiously. I whip out my Fillet knife, as well.

Then out of the darkness, came the local town freak. Known as the "elf-man". This nut-job, actually thinks he can "talk" to the animals....[one with nature] ...yah, OK.

I confronted him, told him to go away. He insisted! on standing a ft away from our dog's snapping jaws[summit, wanted to eat, this idiot]. He told us, "It's a FREE Country", & that he can "Communicate" with Summit.

He wouldn't listen. I said, "Fine, if he slips his collar, your on your own. I won't pull him off!"

He finally turned back into the darkness, towards town.

........ ah, the night, 'ole Summit ate Dummit!!!!!!

Three 44s

Yup!

Good one Kirby, the guy probably was raise on peyote buttons and paint chips.

I was in Alaska on a Brown Bear hunt when that happened. The people of Alaska didn't have much sympathy for them either. I just can't understand that much stupidity. I know there was a recording of their deaths cause they played it over and over in Anchorage, but does anybody know if there is a video recording of the incident? kyray

If Summit would've broke free. He would've been fighting his own little 85lb Grizz, for sure. This nut-elf, stood right there in our little camp et cursed me.
As well as, informed me of his Constitutional Rights!

I was fit to [elfitize] him myself. Wife calmed me down, or I woulda dropped him.

Another time, I was fishing at the local dam. "Elf/animal whisperer", decides he wanted to dive/swim, right by where my lines went into the water,GRRRRrr. I said, "Find somewhere else to swim", you have the whole river".

He said, "It's a FREE COUNTRY" I'll SWIM WHERE I WANT TO!"

Which then...caused me to snap on a large DareDevil lure w/Treble hook. Then go snagging for "elf-Salmon". He moved down stream, shorty .

"I know there was a recording of their deaths cause they played it over and over in Anchorage, but does anybody know if there is a video recording of the incident? kyray"

Kyray,the camcorder was running at the time of the attack but the lense cover was still on.Good audio,no video.Too bad, it would have played well on America's Funniest Vid......well never mind.

WEEP? I'm with NONYA, I thought it was funny . You know the old saying, "fool with a bull, you'll get the horn" . I have bees, I like them, do I get into their hives with no protection? No way, it only takes once and you are in deep trouble. So, really, what makes me wear protection? Good old fashioned fear and common sense . Both those qualities seem to be lacking these days. Those two "bear huggers" must have been lacking both, I don't miss 'em a bit. There are a few million more who ought to go up there and take their place soon. I will help pay for their one-way air fare .

I'm new to this forum and I wanted to comment on what all you guys are saying! It sure is nice to see other people think just like I do.

Welcome to the forum Bart.You're going to find alot of folks here with good old fashioned common sense.

My thoughts are he was playing with his life, for pictures.
SAD he had to take someone with him.....when he left this earth!

Don't be stubid humans do not not live with bears.

I say....Don't feed the bears, unless of course, it's some whackjob like that, then, make'em fat dumb and happy

that was a waste time that i will never get back, watching that stupid video, listening to the guy saying sometimes i wish i were gay? that wasnt a good video for hunters or outdoorsmen, it was an anti-hunting symbol. and yes indeed that guy got what he deserved

It just goes to prove those PETA type of people have no clue about animals. They watch to much Disney & think all that crap is true. I know I did as kid. Thank God I grew up in a farm & learned the truth.
They are the only species on earth that I can think off that cares more for another species than they do their own.

BTW Did Disney ever make a movie w/o construing the story?

Three 44's, the night Summit ate Dummit,

Ha I almost swalloed my snuice very good.

coming from a true alaskan, i wish more bunny huggers would come to Alaska to live with the Bears we have plenty of them to feed .(maybe the moose poulation would start to rise a little)more moose and less bunny huggers , i think i like that

Just saw an add for the grizzly guy show on the discovery channel,this friday at 8 pm.

i got my remote control pre-programmed to change the channel at 8pm Friday to discovery.
I been waiting to see this bloomin hugger and wife take their medicine. EH!
locator

Treadwell was a junkie.....No one deserves a death like that......but he was asking for it......

Hey Greg223.......You are right about common sense.....its not too common these days !!!!!!!

i've only just heard about this in the last few weeks so excuse my ignorance. when i first heard about this whole thing it struck me as a Blair Witch Project. one big HOAX. is this for real or is this idiot still alive running around the woods of alaska naked with his girlfriend. why couldn't the lens cap be off? do we have any kill-site photos. did they find the bears? was one of the bears wearing this chach's bandana? the bear prolly puked his greasy a$$ up.
"come here little griz i don't want to hurt you. come here let me tickle your ear. who's the little grizzly? oh, there you go. isn't that nice? AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH! STOP EATING ME! I'M ONE OF GOD'S CREATURE'S! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! if there is a god. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!"
i need absolute proof that this idiot was eaten! i want scat! I want DNA samples! i want autopsy photos! i need to speak to the detective on this case, NOW!

Oh he is plenty dead, I remember that in alb, the local leftwing paper did a whole article on him.

plenty dead? as opposed to sort of dead or a tad dead?

Those Grizzlies were just cleaning up the gene pool for us. Now those two won't breed more idiot children. I say good ridence the stupidity of these type of people is beyond belief..Walt

Grizzly Bait is on Discovery right now. There's supposed to be an encore tomorrow some time. Raised in NY and transplanted to SoCal. Seems his real name was not Treadwell after all, it was Dexter. That was his "stage name". He was a wanna-be actor who couldn't make the grade. He decided to acquire a fake Australian accent and the personna of Steve Corwin, Crocodile Hunter, and reinvented himself as a wildlife expert. He was a con man, drug addict, engaged in homosexual encounters, was taking anti-depressants for paranoia, and slept with a teddy bear. On camera he crys when he finds a dead bee. The National Park Service must be laughing their a$$ off every time this program shows.

I watched the first 15 minutes,enough for me...all I can say is 1 less.

Ironically, it is brought to us in part by TGIFridays. I guess the bears got a two course meal.

and after all that he got the poor, old, hungry bear killed!

There was one thing about him that could be considered prophetic. Throughout the documentary he repeats over and over, "I'll die for these bears". At least he got that one right.

nasa, i don't believe that being on anti-depressants is a reason to belittle the guy. "real" mental illness is not something to be made light of. you are in tom cruise space people territory.
you could tell when he was ranting or crying one second and then "just fine" the next, that he needed those pills. i think a lot of the crying was just an act. i also don't know where you got the "homo encounters" idea. he said it'd be easier for him if he were gay. not having to deal with the emotional side of women. after watching the show i got the sense that he was lost and looking to be somebody and this was his way. a stupid way no doubt! we derive our pleasure from whacking these animals and he got his by "protecting" them. as if they needed protecting. he was an idiot, but he did have passion. ill-placed in our hunters eye, but if he had that same passion for killing bears we'd all be praising him. he went to school's to brainwash a bunch of kids into loving the cuddly bears, but in the end those kids found out the truth! there's no love lost between myself and anti-hunters but sometimes a little objectivity would suffice.
i wanted to hear them being eaten though. he knew his days were numbered. #141 is the one that got him. the scenes with the fox were cool. amazing how tame they were. i'm sure they thought about eating him a time or two as well. if only i could get one of those pelts to come in so easy. just my opinion. no barbs. just thoughts.

when you list anti-depressants and paranoia among a bunch of other things like conman, homosexual encounters and the like it comes off as belittling him for it. it is a little personal. i am on anti-depressants for panic disorder. you just lumped it in there like it was a bad thing he was seeking treatment.

Not to me.
These are just facts.
And not necessarily a bad thing. Just some insight to what may have been one of the contributing factors to his bizarre lifestyle. He had quit taking his meds many years before, so he was running around without all his wires hooked up.

point taken. you're right he was really nuts, and i'm a little nuts but i ain't messin with any grizzlies without some firepower.

LOL, you don't sound so "nutz" to me.

He actually was diagnosed with a mental disorder, but said he didn't want the drugs. He "needed" to be high and low to be normal. He just couldn't be the same all of the time.

Also, his friends said he dabbled in homosexuality.

because unlike bearbait i take my medication! he said he needed the highs and lows so it seems to me he was manic depressive. totally different ballgame from what i have. how can you dabble? that's funny. to me you're in or out no dabbling allowed!

Hey, Les is an in and out knda guy, but I am one of those guys that likes to say in something till the job is over.

More insight....I found this from a story "Blood Brothers" in Outside magazine,(tree hugger)....We couldn't help but like this guy who punched out as he'd wanted to, who'd told people he would be honored to "end up in bear scat," though we agreed that he'd camped in terrible places and gotten way too close to bears....So you could say, he ended honored, huh ?

I watched the whole program and just wanted to say that you guys are not being sensative to the issue..... psych!!! I thought it was hillarious when the red fox stole his cap, and he wanted to kill it. But in all seriousness, DID YOU SEE THE SIZE OF THAT BEAR, what type of nutcase thinks that he is " the only defender and kind warrior that these gentle creatures have"

in the other thread on this topic someone wrote that he had never stayed that late in the year and the bears that he spent his time protecting were somewhat tame and used to humans. as shown by the idiots on the boat chuckin' rocks at them. they were used to the "traffic". while this may be true they are still bears.
people in yellowstone don't go out of their way to pal around with the bears. i was watching travel channel last weekend a show about yellow stone and they said that more people were injured by bison than bears. probably because the people know not to pet the bears. THEY HAVE BIG TEETH!
maybe he watched too much GRIZZLY ADAMS when he was young and thought "big ben never ate grizzly adams so, what the heck."
the bear that ate him ,they said, was probably from the interior regions and they weren't used to humans. so all this guy and his girl were to this bear was an easy meal.

Dabbling....sounds to me like being a "Little Bit" pregnant.....sorry boys....in Arkansas, that dog won't hunt Dabbling....LOL!! Hahahahha.....the "friends" you spoke of may have "dabbled" too...that may be a new PC term for 'em....dabblers Hhahahaha....dabblers....

Joe

arky! i chuckled a bit at what j holly wrote. i woke the wife and kids with laughter reading your post! i believe "dabbling" is illegal in my state. if not, it should be. no dabbling in anything. it's full throttle or idle. no middle ground on that one.

If you guys think Holly is funny in his posts, you should meet him in person. He's a total crack-up.

i'd like to meet a lot of the guys on here in person some day. all of you are a great bunch of guys. all with a good sense of humor and down to earth. most with the good sense of where to draw the line when it comes to common sense and decency.

I saw the show on him and although sad what happend to him and his girlfriend not at all unexpected.You can not think for one moment that you can safely live with wild grizz without protection....The man was lost in my opinion.How long can you dangle a worm in front of a fish before it eats it.......Think d.f.is all I have to say...

Smithers, that is precisely the focus of the annual Globe Hunt and now the LBL Hunt. A chance to meet the guys we shuck 'n jive with in the Forums here.

White Eagle, d.f. certainly sums it up, doesn't it?

Well, you guys hooked me into watch "Grizzly XXXXXX".

I use XXXXXX because I don't want to denegrate the word man.

Grizzly Flake would be acceptable.

....... and after one hour, I turned to my wife and saw she had had enough as well.

I am still looking for something to help to initiate the "gag reflex" and get some relief!

I am with the Native (at the museum) that chastised Treadwell for habituating grizzlies and thus harming them.

Treadwell made two points with me. He was a lucky idiot for too long and he cost the world a "perfectly" fine bear contrary to saving anything.

His total childishness was revealed when he flipped out over the fox taking his hat. A stupid hat and this grown flake looses it.

How do we say ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT????

Three 44s

What channel, and when is it going to be on again?

I'm gonna have to disagree with you guys on this one. It wasn't a total waste of time watching that show. After I got tired of Treadwell's voice and IMHO effeminate "conversations" with the camera and bears, I muted the TV, put on a CD, and started cleaning one of my rifles. The footage of the bears was interesting to me and I even unmuted it during the fight scene but quickly remuted when he started ranting over the "poop" the one boar dropped. Good Lord, what a fanatic. All in all, it wasn't bad to watch.....that is if you had something else to listen to and something else to do during the unwatchable parts.

My final analysis....Treadwell = IDIOT. And he got what he deserved.

Okay, rant on here. Why did he continually say "I Love these animals, or I Love you"? After the 500th time, it really started getting to me. Also, what let this guy "study" these bears? Has anyone seen any of these studys? I don't think he was qualified to be there, much less under the guise of studying.

I know he was up there on his own agenda and should have had this happen to him in the first year he was there. I think the bears finally had enough of him.

kray,

It was on the Discovery Channel. Don't know when, just watch for "Grizzly ......XXXXXXXXX"

Grizzly XXXXXXXxxxxx well you know ends in MAN. I hate denetrating our gender by using Tredfool and MAN in the same sentence!

Three 44s

Also, his friends said he dabbled in homosexuality.

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Let me expound on this subject. Women can dabble in homosexuality. With men(pun intended), it's a one way street(pun intended), exit only or you are gay.

Getting that close on a regular basis to a wild carnivore, well the odds aren't that good. I believe that he got what he had coming to him. He must have been a few fries short of a happy meal.

saying that we should weep for that dead bear guy, is like saying that we should wipe before we go to the bathroom...

Treadwell.... I wonder if he's accomplishing what he set out to though? Bringing all this attention on himself and the bears even in death. There's surely as many people if not more, that feel his death was a real tragedy and are trying to further his cause. I just about didn't buy the movie but did (probably adding $'s to his cause, God, I really hope not!) I let my elderly parents watch it also, and you know what, we need to be stronger as we've all been preached to and speak up against this type of B.S. Many Americans feel as we do on this post about such a redicoulous act, we just need to be heard louder!!
Question-- are we doing are part with supporting the people doing the leg work for us? I hope so.
Weep???I don't think so!

He was lucky he lasted as long as he did. People are stupid. It is like sleeping with a rattle snake sooner or later you will make a wrong move and your dead. He is better off where he is now- He had a movie showing his stupid actions and how it cost him his life. Just too bad they had to kill the bear.

I just can not believe people thought he was OK and going to live for more than 13 years which he did and was luckily.

If he wanted to impress me and others he should have lived in the winter Months of "Fruits and Nuts"" in Alaska.

Survival of the fittest- 1,200lb Bear Vs 150 Tree Hugger???

PA teeny

Too bad it cost him the life of his girl friend also......can we say STUPID!

Body parts at camp site....with tent......stupid!