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#3300202 - 06/15/22 11:34 AM What's wrong with people today?
pyscodog Offline
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Registered: 12/04/06
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Got up this morning and like every morning, turned on the TV to the news and weather and three more shootings in Tulsa last night and a guy arrested at an AT&T store carrying an AR and a cowboy pistol and wearing body armor. I used to think a lot was political related but I have doubts that these people could tell you what day it was let alone who is POTUS. None were "mass" shootings, just the same thing it seems like we hear about every day. I'm sure, well maybe that's a wrong choice of words, maybe I think, that some of these are drug related, but its every day. Makes you wonder if its even safe to leave the house these days.
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#3300204 - 06/15/22 12:03 PM Re: What's wrong with people today? [Re: pyscodog]
AdamT Offline
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Registered: 01/04/15
Posts: 2870
Loc: Southwest Virginia, USA
Society has drifted away from faith and religious beliefs.
People arenít teaching morals and respect to the youth.
Everyone gets a participation trophy as a child.
Thereís no recourse for laziness and no appreciation or acknowledgment of hard work.
Harder economic times than most have ever experienced.

My wife is a teacher in our local public school system. They were told to do away with recognizing first and second honor roll for the kids making good grades, and other things like attendance, etc. Teachers arenít allowed to give grades below a 60, because the system doesnít want kids to fail. Our former Governor did away with advanced classes as an option for the kids to take in high school grades.

These are just a few things that come to mind with whatís contributing to why we are where we are as a society.
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#3300208 - 06/15/22 02:33 PM Re: What's wrong with people today? [Re: pyscodog]
pyscodog Offline
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Growing up in a small rural town we didn't have a lot to do but fight each other. Usually after the fight was over, we would go get drunk together. Happened several times I remember. Never ever did I ever feel the need to kill someone. Can't say some people wouldn't be better off but not by my hands. Ya, I'd been mad enough but not stupid enough. I always had the thought that they weren't worth spending my life behind bars and worrying about some big inmate named Bubba wanting to poke fun at me. Does this never cross the mind of a shooter thinking about the afterwards? Maybe this is where the "Mental" issues come to play. They live for the moment and not concern themselves about what happens later....if they live. Maybe Capitol Punishment should be mandatory. At least life sentences with no exceptions and no parole.
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#3300218 - 06/15/22 09:25 PM Re: What's wrong with people today? [Re: pyscodog]
SlickerThanSnot Offline
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adamt touched on a bunch of it.
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#3300231 - 06/16/22 11:52 AM Re: What's wrong with people today? [Re: AdamT]
Plant.One Offline
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Registered: 02/12/15
Posts: 4861
Loc: Oakland County, MI
Originally Posted By: AdamT
Society has drifted away from faith and religious beliefs.
People arenít teaching morals and respect to the youth.
Everyone gets a participation trophy as a child.
Thereís no recourse for laziness and no appreciation or acknowledgment of hard work.

Harder economic times than most have ever experienced.

My wife is a teacher in our local public school system. They were told to do away with recognizing first and second honor roll for the kids making good grades, and other things like attendance, etc. Teachers arenít allowed to give grades below a 60, because the system doesnít want kids to fail. Our former Governor did away with advanced classes as an option for the kids to take in high school grades.

These are just a few things that come to mind with whatís contributing to why we are where we are as a society.



i think this is one of the biggest issues we have right now.

everyone's precious little crotch-fruit can do no wrong and everyone wins just for showing up.

we've completely stopped teaching coping mechanisms for what happens when you get to the real world. nobody knows how to lose with grace and look at those events as a learning opportunity. they're taught to be perpetual victims. theres no longer a 'go back and get em next time by improving yourself' mindset. its always someone elses's fault.

theyre only taught entitlement and that they're supposed to be treated like everyone else when they fail, or that they always fail due to someone else holding them back - and the real world doesnt work that way.

throw in the fact that kids arent ALLOWED to fight back against their bullies anymore (thank you zero tolerance fighting rules BS), add in the social media they cant get away from it outside of school factor and you've got a recipe for a lot of the mental health issues that are seemingly everyday common now - or way more so than they were 20+ years ago - anxiety, depression, etc

so these kids find out that everything they've been taught is a lie (you dont get ahead for being an outcast loser with no work ethic, you cant fight back on those picking on you, etc), turn then loose on the real world, add in a bunch of media hysteria keeping the stress turned up to 11 all the time, and then they glorify these shooters for WEEKS on end every time one of these events happen....

of course some kid who's stressed out, anxiety ridden on their future, depressed because they get made fun of, has no support system at home and looking for attention is gonna go there. they dont know that bad press = not good. all they care about is someone finally acknowledging their existence.

do i think this is the end-all-be-all reasons?

not at all.

but they're sure a few big ticket items at the upper end of the list thats for [beeep] sure.
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#3300236 - 06/16/22 04:21 PM Re: What's wrong with people today? [Re: pyscodog]
tnshootist Offline
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Registered: 11/26/10
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Loc: East Tn
Plant you hit on some good points.

I think the reason for some of the points is that teachers consciously or unconsciously are teaching socialism.

Kids are being taught that socialism/communism levels the field for all and all are equal.

And that is right. Everyone is equal. Nobody has got anything. Everyone is poverty level.
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#3300305 - 06/18/22 06:55 PM Re: What's wrong with people today? [Re: pyscodog]
1oldcoyote Offline
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Registered: 03/18/22
Posts: 91
Loc: Central plains
Originally Posted By: pyscodog
Got up this morning and like every morning, turned on the TV to the news and weather and three more shootings in Tulsa last night and a guy arrested at an AT&T store carrying an AR and a cowboy pistol and wearing body armor. I used to think a lot was political related but I have doubts that these people could tell you what day it was let alone who is POTUS. None were "mass" shootings, just the same thing it seems like we hear about every day. I'm sure, well maybe that's a wrong choice of words, maybe I think, that some of these are drug related, but its every day. Makes you wonder if its even safe to leave the house these days.


I believe a certain percentage of people where born EVIL. Children have murdered other children. Why is that? I beleive others may develop an EVIL soul over time. "Open the door to EVIL, EVIL will step in". Take bullies for example. Why are they bullies? Nature vs Nurture? Who knows?

I'm an easy going guy. However when painted into a corner by an aggressor. I'm not beyond EVIL violence. As I'm NO willing victim, ever.
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