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#3292443 - 01/26/22 07:07 PM Re: ONE BAD .20cal! [Re: Austin Laughlin]
DAA Offline
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Registered: 04/23/01
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Slick feeding without any fuss or mods was one of my reasons for settling on the .20-250.

You can get the BR cases to feed, but it's money and hassle.

For just plain screaming, my .20 Dasher is one. But it's a long, heavy barrel, single shot, colony varmint rig. It screams like crazy though.

Mongrel Dasher Build

That whole project started with Blaine Eddy calling me one morning. Your old man ought to get a kick out of that.

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#3292450 - 01/26/22 08:38 PM Re: ONE BAD .20cal! [Re: Austin Laughlin]
B23 Offline
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Registered: 12/07/11
Posts: 2600
Loc: Pacific NW
Originally Posted By: Austin Laughlin
Unless yíall say thereís a better route to go out of this donor rifle. Iím pretty set on the 20-250, no doubt. But if thereís another screamer .20 out there that Iím missing, Iím all ears.


The only other one I'd consider would be a 20x47 Lapua. In theory, I think the 6.5x47 Lapua is a little better case design than the 22-250 and the 47 Lapua may have a tiny bit more case capacity but it'll require more work with regard to brass prep and depending on the reamer you may need to neck turn but if I went with a 20-47 Lapua build I'd make sure and get/use a no turn reamer so it had enough neck clearance and you wouldn't have to neck turn. I think they call the 20x47's a 20 Satan so they have a catchier name too. smile

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#3292707 - 01/28/22 07:29 PM Re: ONE BAD .20cal! [Re: DAA]
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Registered: 02/08/20
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Exactly. Iíd go the BR route in a hurry, but I want one that feeds easily.

If you had to do it over again DAA, would you still go the 20-250 route? Or is there any other route youíd take these days?

What I would GIVE to get my hands on that 14 Pred or that 17 Athena he had. Iíve still got a dummy round of each that he gave me.


Edited by Austin Laughlin (01/28/22 07:33 PM)
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#3292708 - 01/28/22 07:31 PM Re: ONE BAD .20cal! [Re: B23]
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WhoaaaaaÖ Youíre onto something. Iím intrigued. I never even thought about the 20x47. I owned the 6 for awhile and I loved that round.

You know anybody or have you yourself dealt with it? Thatís got my attention big time.
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#3292714 - 01/28/22 07:46 PM Re: ONE BAD .20cal! [Re: Austin Laughlin]
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Originally Posted By: Austin Laughlin
WhoaaaaaÖ Youíre onto something. Iím intrigued. I never even thought about the 20x47. I owned the 6 for awhile and I loved that round.

You know anybody or have you yourself dealt with it? Thatís got my attention big time.


Sorry, I have no hands on with one all I know about it is what I've read. In theory I think it's a better case design and the only downside that I could see would be making sure I got the appropriate reamer for neck clearance or possibly having to neck turn. Neck turning isn't the worst thing I've ever done and I'd bet 200 pcs of 6.5x47 Lapua brass would easily outlast the barrel, heck, with the way Lapua brass holds up 100pcs would last the life of a barrel.

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#3292717 - 01/28/22 07:58 PM Re: ONE BAD .20cal! [Re: Austin Laughlin]
alf Offline
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Registered: 03/25/07
Posts: 1585
Loc: SW Wisconsin

Start with 6x47 Peterson brass will get you there faster & easier.....

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#3292756 - 01/29/22 06:48 AM Re: ONE BAD .20cal! [Re: B23]
Austin Laughlin Offline
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Loc: Missouri
Alright, I did some digging and youíre 200% right about the better case design. I didnít realize how much better it was till I really read on it.

Iím kicking myself in the rear end hard for selling all my 6x47 stuff. I sold my brass, dies, all of it.

Youíre really onto something here.
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#3292757 - 01/29/22 06:49 AM Re: ONE BAD .20cal! [Re: alf]
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Can I ask why? I can hold my own when it comes to reloading. But Iíve only been doing it about 3 years. Iím still learning about little stuff.
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#3292758 - 01/29/22 06:55 AM Re: ONE BAD .20cal! [Re: Austin Laughlin]
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Originally Posted By: Austin Laughlin

If you had to do it over again DAA, would you still go the 20-250 route? Or is there any other route youíd take these days?


I would at least consider/investigate the X47 case, or even the Creedmoor case.

For myself though, having all the dies and components already, I'd probably end up doing the '250 again.

- DAA

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#3292785 - 01/29/22 11:14 AM Re: ONE BAD .20cal! [Re: Austin Laughlin]
alf Offline
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Registered: 03/25/07
Posts: 1585
Loc: SW Wisconsin
Originally Posted By: Austin Laughlin
Can I ask why? I can hold my own when it comes to reloading. But Iíve only been doing it about 3 years. Iím still learning about little stuff.

No point in starting at 6.5 when the Peterson brass is already at 6mm, and is the equal to Lapua in quality.

22x47 - 6x47 - 6.5x47






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#3292789 - 01/29/22 11:39 AM Re: ONE BAD .20cal! [Re: Austin Laughlin]
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Registered: 12/07/11
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Loc: Pacific NW
Even though I think the 47 Lapua is a better case design, already having a 20-250 that shoots the Berger 55's extremely well, if I had all to do over again I would probably have a hard time switching to a 20x47.

Since you plan on only shooting lighter bullets the 20-250 is already a lot overbore and going to an even larger case, more overbore, can sometimes be to much of a good thing. If you were wanting to sling the 55's then I'd probably be more compelled to go 20x47 Lapua.

It's a shame Nosler has never developed their 20 Nosler in to production because a 20 cal that had a little more case capacity than a 20BR but on a small bolt face and would feed slick would have been a really fun little cartridge to have, especially for slinging the 40 grainers. But Nosler isn't known for having the greatest brass so we probably would have been left with disappointment anyway.

So! Since there are quit a few of us on here with 20-250's and nobody seems to have a 20x47 I vote Austin Laughlin has a 20x47 built. If for no other reason, just because. There, now it's settled and if for any reason it doesn't work out you can blame me. smile

I know you love those lighter bullets but FWIW, a 20x47 using RL26 out of a 26in tube should hit 3800 with the Berger 55's and if you look at the BC of those 55's they are like a long range ballistic missile. They're about the sleekest sexiest looking bullet you've ever seen. The dam things look like they are going mach 5 just sitting there. Oh, and you'll want at least a 9tw barrel.


Edited by B23 (01/29/22 11:41 AM)

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#3292790 - 01/29/22 11:44 AM Re: ONE BAD .20cal! [Re: alf]
B23 Offline
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Registered: 12/07/11
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To many reports from guys I know that have a love hate relationship with Peterson brass. Never heard anyone complain about Lapua brass and 6.5x47 always seems to be available so for me I'll take the extra necking down to stick with Lapua.

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#3292802 - 01/29/22 01:50 PM Re: ONE BAD .20cal! [Re: Austin Laughlin]
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Registered: 11/28/15
Posts: 798
Loc: Illinois
I would go with a 1 in 12 24" and shoot 40 grain Bergers
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#3292816 - 01/29/22 03:49 PM Re: ONE BAD .20cal! [Re: B23]
Austin Laughlin Offline
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Registered: 02/08/20
Posts: 127
Loc: Missouri
Alright, Iím convinced. I just called my smith and told him Iíd be doing a 20x47 instead. I was so set on the 250 that itís hard to get away from it, but Iíve been doing some serious reading since you mentioned it. And Iím in. All in.

Same barrel twist before I order one? 1:10? Iíd like to shoot the 40s for sure, but if I can get a barrel thatíll shoot the 45-55 range, thatíd be pretty slick in my mind, considering my 204 is built to shoot lighter. Makes sense to be anyway?
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M77 - 220 Swift
Rem700 - 204 AI
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#3292833 - 01/29/22 05:45 PM Re: ONE BAD .20cal! [Re: Austin Laughlin]
B23 Offline
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Registered: 12/07/11
Posts: 2600
Loc: Pacific NW
If you ever want to shoot the 55's you'll want a 9tw.

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