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#3292648 - 01/28/22 02:01 PM Re: 22-250, 204 or something else? [Re: Coyotejunki]
Austin Laughlin Offline
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Registered: 02/08/20
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Yes sir, he sure is. He was talking a couple years ago about getting out of it. But he’s still going.
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#3292655 - 01/28/22 02:22 PM Re: 22-250, 204 or something else? [Re: Austin Laughlin]
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Originally Posted By: Austin Laughlin
Your sarcasm is definitely unnecessary. I never once said anyone was wrong, or never claimed that I know more than anyone.

Try again hot shot.

I can slow it down for you if you’d like?


Yep please type slower... I don't read real fast. lol
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#3292656 - 01/28/22 02:23 PM Re: 22-250, 204 or something else? [Re: Tim Neitzke]
Austin Laughlin Offline
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Y-e-a-h , I N-o-t-i-c-e-d
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#3292657 - 01/28/22 02:28 PM Re: 22-250, 204 or something else? [Re: Austin Laughlin]
Tim Neitzke Offline
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Originally Posted By: Austin Laughlin
Your sarcasm is definitely unnecessary. I never once said anyone was wrong, or never claimed that I know more than anyone.

Try again hot shot.

I can slow it down for you if you’d like?


What I'm getting at is...

All the reading I've done that last few years from guys that shoot and shoot a lot. Heavy bullets with good BC will trump lighter faster bullets at longer range.


Is this incorrect ?
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#3292659 - 01/28/22 02:34 PM Re: 22-250, 204 or something else? [Re: Austin Laughlin]
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Originally Posted By: Austin Laughlin
Bobby Love out of Jefferson City MO




Thank you.
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#3292660 - 01/28/22 02:38 PM Re: 22-250, 204 or something else? [Re: Tim Neitzke]
Austin Laughlin Offline
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I never said it was. Not once.

All I said, was mathematically, yes. That’s correct.

By physics, and real world shooting, my own and a ton of others experience isn’t that way.

It doesn’t matter if it’s caliber to caliber, or different calibers.

A 130gr out of a 7mm Mag is obviously lighter, and faster than my 300 win mag with a 150gr… 7mm drifts way less.

My 243 AI, with 69gr Nosler is faster and lighter than my 90-100gr loads… 69gr drifts less.

I had a target at 408 yards. My 204 AI with 40gr and my Uncles 20BR with 32gr….

We had a 10-11pm cross wind coming out of the west, blowing straight left to right. The rock I picked out on the left side of the target was where I held and was slapping the target. His 20BR, just on the edge of the target was his hold. Lighter bullet, little more velocity, less drift.

So you tell me.
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#3292666 - 01/28/22 03:32 PM Re: 22-250, 204 or something else? [Re: Austin Laughlin]
alf Offline
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Registered: 03/25/07
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Cartridge or caliber don't mean squat, it's all about the bullet.....

Compare any two bullets of any caliber, with identical BC's, at identical velocities, will drop & drift the same amount.

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#3292669 - 01/28/22 03:43 PM Re: 22-250, 204 or something else? [Re: alf]
Austin Laughlin Offline
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So you think if a 26cal and a 28cal has the same bullet weight and type, and same speed, they’d drop and drift the same huh..


Edited by Austin Laughlin (01/28/22 03:44 PM)
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#3292672 - 01/28/22 03:49 PM Re: 22-250, 204 or something else? [Re: Austin Laughlin]
alf Offline
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Registered: 03/25/07
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Originally Posted By: Austin Laughlin
So you think if a 26cal and a 28cal has the same bullet weight and type, and same speed, they’d drop and drift the same huh..

Re-read what I wrote......

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#3292673 - 01/28/22 03:49 PM Re: 22-250, 204 or something else? [Re: Rex Nutria]
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No, he's saying if they had the same bullet BC and speed, they'd drop/drift the same. He said nothing about weight.
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#3292675 - 01/28/22 04:01 PM Re: 22-250, 204 or something else? [Re: Rex Nutria]
Austin Laughlin Offline
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Loc: Missouri
Ok…

So if a 22cal and a 20cal, had the same bullet type and BC, loaded at the same velocity, they’d drop and drift the same… That’s what you’re saying

Any caliber, any cartridge, doesn’t matter. Right?


Edited by Austin Laughlin (01/28/22 04:01 PM)
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#3292678 - 01/28/22 04:05 PM Re: 22-250, 204 or something else? [Re: Rex Nutria]
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#3292679 - 01/28/22 04:12 PM Re: 22-250, 204 or something else? [Re: alf]
Austin Laughlin Offline
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Registered: 02/08/20
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Loc: Missouri
Oh boy lol
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M77 - 220 Swift
Rem700 - 204 AI
CZ527 - 17 rem
Rem700 - 243AI

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#3292681 - 01/28/22 04:14 PM Re: 22-250, 204 or something else? [Re: Austin Laughlin]
B23 Offline
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Registered: 12/07/11
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Originally Posted By: Austin Laughlin
I guess I see what you’re saying, to an extent. But I do know for an absolute fact, without a doubt, that my 204 drifts less than my 223 AI, and my 220 Swift, at 400.


Part of the problem with your argument is you can't make broad sweeping claims like the above without giving specifics.

In an earlier post you said "I'm science and I'm reality" well the physics of your claim/s are only supported when you are comparing apples and oranges. I used your .20 cal 40gr 4000fps VS .22 Cal 80gr 3500fps example and the physics doesn't support your claim, actually, it wasn't even close and beyond 400 yards the 3500fps 80gr left the 4000 40gr in the dust.

Also, maybe it's just how I'm reading some of these posts but drop and drift are two entirely different things.

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#3292684 - 01/28/22 04:27 PM Re: 22-250, 204 or something else? [Re: B23]
Austin Laughlin Offline
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Registered: 02/08/20
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Loc: Missouri
My uncles first load he made up for that 20BR, was a 39gr Sierra. 43 or 4400fps.

It drifted less that 5” at 500 yards.

You’re saying an 80gr at 3500, does less.

And I’m telling you without a doubt, that’s not the case. At all. I’ve seen it. So have tons of others. It’s like “how in the heck does it do that”. But it does it.

I feel like I’m talking to a wall.

What I’m saying is this..

If he takes his 20BR and holds dead center of a target with a 5-10pm cross wind at 400. You take a 80gr at 3500 and do the same, and you’ll see that I’m right lol

Y’all can have your opinions. That’s great. I’m not saying at all that it’s “dumb” or any of that. Whatsoever. I’ll agree to disagree because this is going nowhere lol
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M77 - 220 Swift
Rem700 - 204 AI
CZ527 - 17 rem
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