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#3291600 - 01/19/22 04:24 PM Never the right rings
pyscodog Offline
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Registered: 12/04/06
Posts: 15452
Loc: okla
Anyone else go through this? I got a drawer full of rings, rimfire, one inch, 30mm. Tall ones, short ones and everything in between.I'd be willing to bet I have at least 30 sets if rings in a fishing lure box and several more sets that won't go in the box. But when I go to mount a scope or change one out, I don't seem to have the right set. LOL, I should just buy something when I get a new scope and save the hassle.
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#3291666 - 01/20/22 12:32 AM Re: Never the right rings [Re: pyscodog]
irright Offline
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Registered: 08/16/09
Posts: 147
Loc: kansas
Yep. Exactly the same situation here. Search through the pile of rings for a half-hour, then go order some more.

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#3291707 - 01/20/22 10:40 AM Re: Never the right rings [Re: pyscodog]
B23 Offline
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Registered: 12/07/11
Posts: 2594
Loc: Pacific NW
Really? My rule of thumb is if it's a 42mm Obj. or smaller use the lowest possible rings you can get. Majority of my scopes are 50's and with a picatinny rail .885 or low rings comes out perfect. I have a couple scopes with 56's and with a pic rail and those 56's I use 1.0 or medium rings. Just mounted a 42mm on a Tikka and used Mountain Tactical Low Raptor mount and even with the low comb height on the plastic Tikka stocks it came out perfect.

If you have a rifle with a low comb height stock, which the vast majority of factory stocks have, use the lowest possible setup you can get that will just barely clear the barrel. More often then not people use way taller ring/mount setups than they need to.

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#3291739 - 01/20/22 03:55 PM Re: Never the right rings [Re: pyscodog]
pyscodog Offline
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Registered: 12/04/06
Posts: 15452
Loc: okla
Last rifle was a Sako L461 with a heavy barrel. Scope was a 50MM. I bought Highs and the scope still touched the barrel. I then shimmed it and got it to clear, but I don't like shimming so I ordered super highs. Now it clears but not by a lot. Sightron scope and Leupold dovetail rings.
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#3291743 - 01/20/22 06:20 PM Re: Never the right rings [Re: pyscodog]
B23 Offline
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Registered: 12/07/11
Posts: 2594
Loc: Pacific NW
Originally Posted By: pyscodog
Last rifle was a Sako L461 with a heavy barrel. Scope was a 50MM. I bought Highs and the scope still touched the barrel. I then shimmed it and got it to clear, but I don't like shimming so I ordered super highs. Now it clears but not by a lot. Sightron scope and Leupold dovetail rings.


That sounds odd. What, specifically, was the mount and ring combo used??

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#3291753 - 01/20/22 08:17 PM Re: Never the right rings [Re: pyscodog]
pyscodog Offline
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Registered: 12/04/06
Posts: 15452
Loc: okla
Its a dove tail mount. Ring and base is one unit. No holes in the action for a conventional type mount. Its the same on my Sako Finnbear. Weaver makes a base that fits on the Sako dove tails but it looks cheezy. They work OK I guess but I hated they way they look. The rear mount looked like the scope was about to fall off the base. Leupold mounts and Sako mounts look so much better. Just kinda pricey.
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#3291762 - 01/20/22 09:10 PM Re: Never the right rings [Re: pyscodog]
B23 Offline
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Registered: 12/07/11
Posts: 2594
Loc: Pacific NW
Leupold #51037 is the matte in a high not sure what the part number is for gloss but height would be the same.

That's a tall azz set of rings for it not to clear a 50 regardless of the barrel.

https://www.opticsplanet.com/v/51037-leupold-sako-ring-mounts-30mm.html

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#3291769 - 01/20/22 11:47 PM Re: Never the right rings [Re: pyscodog]
pyscodog Offline
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Registered: 12/04/06
Posts: 15452
Loc: okla
Well I thought so to but they didn't. With the super highs the scope is only about 3/16" off the barrel. The ring/base mounts directly to the action. If there was a separate base to the action, then the rings, it might have been high enough. I wish I could figure out pictures and I'd post some. I give up on that long ago.
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#3293944 - 02/10/22 09:27 PM Re: Never the right rings [Re: pyscodog]
Tgunz64 Offline
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Registered: 02/20/15
Posts: 174
Loc: MN
I donít have 30 sets but my ring collection seems to grow a little every year also. Never have the perfect set so itís ordering another set lol

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#3294320 - 02/16/22 08:36 AM Re: Never the right rings [Re: pyscodog]
fishballer06 Offline
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Registered: 02/03/20
Posts: 76
Loc: PA
The majority of my rifles are 700's or 700 based actions. That makes rings much easier for me to deal with.

I hate whenever rifles use a proprietary mount system, although I do still own a few (ahem, Ruger and Browning X-Bolts).

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#3294334 - 02/16/22 12:06 PM Re: Never the right rings [Re: pyscodog]
pyscodog Offline
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Registered: 12/04/06
Posts: 15452
Loc: okla
I have four Sako's and a Tikka T3x. Three of the four Sako's use a dove tail style mount. The other Sako is an A7 and uses a conventional style base as well as the T3x. One of the Sako's has a full bull barrel and that's the one that gave me fits. With the 50mm bell and high mounts the scope was still touching. I added two shims in the front ring and one in the back. I could slide a sheet of paper under the front bell but just barely. I hate shimming scopes in the rings. I've shimmed under bases before but don't like that either. The extra high rings raised the scope off the barrel but only about 1/8"-3/16", but its off the barrel now. Trust me, at $86 a set for Sako/Leupold rings, I wasn't thrilled but you have to do what you have to do to make it work and work correctly. LOL, I hate "Southern Engineering".
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