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#3235245 - 02/23/20 01:11 AM Nickel plated shot in sub gauges
Frankm Offline
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Registered: 10/25/19
Posts: 146
Loc: Idaho
Anyone with much experience with nickel plated lead shot in sub gauges? 20-28 s ...

Pro s, cons. I hear it patterns better and penetrates better due to being slicker and not pulling as many feathers into game.

Just wondering for upland bird hunting, no clay targets, if the add l cost is justified.

Thx for any good bout.

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#3235253 - 02/23/20 01:36 AM Re: Nickel plated shot in sub gauges [Re: Frankm]
Frankm Offline
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Registered: 10/25/19
Posts: 146
Loc: Idaho
To expand ... mostly interested in 6 shot size wise.
Thx

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#3235353 - 02/23/20 01:40 PM Re: Nickel plated shot in sub gauges [Re: Frankm]
AWS Offline
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Registered: 02/01/03
Posts: 5991
Loc: NM
I've used it in my 20ga in 2 3/4" loads and 12ga 1 oz 2 1/2" loads for wild pheasants, it worked very well for me. I also load NP BB's in my 12 and 16ga coyote loads.
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After the first shot the rest are just noise.

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#3235679 - 02/24/20 11:21 PM Re: Nickel plated shot in sub gauges [Re: Frankm]
Frankm Offline
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Registered: 10/25/19
Posts: 146
Loc: Idaho
AWS,
Do you believe it to outperform magnum lead shot?? (5-6% antimony)
Thx

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#3235830 - 02/25/20 09:21 PM Re: Nickel plated shot in sub gauges [Re: Frankm]
AWS Offline
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Registered: 02/01/03
Posts: 5991
Loc: NM
I can't say as I've never dealt with magnum/hard lead shot other than in trap loads. I did shoot a bunch of NP 7's overseas shooting international trap and they worked well but again that was all I shot there so no comparison.

That said a lot of data/reports say that NP is as about as good as it gets.
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After the first shot the rest are just noise.

Make mine a Minaska.

Heaven has rules and walls, He-l has open borders

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#3235938 - 02/26/20 03:08 PM Re: Nickel plated shot in sub gauges [Re: Frankm]
ackleyman Offline
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Registered: 01/08/03
Posts: 8846
Loc: Hickville
I shot a lot of Ni on crows, 12ga. I also buffered the loads, killed well to 70 yards. I shot Ni and copper plated 5's, buffered.

Sub gauges, I would shoot Cu or Ni unless you are hunting quail or doves, then no, magnum shot only. Your choke choice and time spent on the pattern board will be critical.

do a search on Golden Pheasant shot shells, 28,20,16, and 12 ga

I shot their 12ga 1 3/8oz #5 on pigeons.

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#3235977 - 02/26/20 08:08 PM Re: Nickel plated shot in sub gauges [Re: Frankm]
Frankm Offline
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Registered: 10/25/19
Posts: 146
Loc: Idaho
Ackleyman, I ve shot a box of Fiocchi GP 7/8 oz #6 28 gauge shells on pheasants and worked as well as 1 oz Super X #6. Couldn't see any real difference. Wish I d of checked birds for feather pull comparison. Also a could patterns would of been good.

Guess I should just buy 10# s of 6 shot NP as I reload and do some testing/comparisons. The cheapskate in me just hates paying 2 1/2 times more for the shot!

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#3238396 - 03/16/20 09:21 PM Re: Nickel plated shot in sub gauges [Re: Frankm]
Frankm Offline
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Registered: 10/25/19
Posts: 146
Loc: Idaho
I broke down and bought 10 lbs. will try on pattern board and update once I do. As far as bird performance got a ways to go now.

Maybe I should try nickel vs std magnum on some grd squeaks !! lol

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#3239979 - 03/29/20 03:39 PM Re: Nickel plated shot in sub gauges [Re: Frankm]
Frankm Offline
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Registered: 10/25/19
Posts: 146
Loc: Idaho
Well due to the Covid19 issue and our order to stay home except for essential issues pretty much put my patterning test plan 'on hold'. Still hope to do it but may be a few months.

Bored and all my reloading is fully done... what to do?? lol

Stay safe.

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#3240426 - 04/02/20 11:18 AM Re: Nickel plated shot in sub gauges [Re: Frankm]
ackleyman Offline
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Registered: 01/08/03
Posts: 8846
Loc: Hickville
I used to shoot a lot of pigeons.

Ballistic's Products original Buffer does improve patterns with 6's.

Playing with pattern board, gun fit, chokes will trump all other efforts until you go to heavy shot.

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#3276793 - 05/05/21 08:58 PM Re: Nickel plated shot in sub gauges [Re: Frankm]
Dultimatpredator Offline
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Registered: 07/06/07
Posts: 2717
Loc: Wisconsin
Not a sub gauge but a 2 7/8Ē 10 gauge. I loaded up 1 5/8Ēoz of BPI nickel plated #6ís with 100 grains of DuPont Fg in a RST hull. I had 40 hits in my turkey head target at 25 yards, 17 hits at 40 yards, and 7 hits at 50 yards. The factory ( non nickel plated shot) 1 1/4oz RTS ammo in #6ís wouldnít put more than 4 or 5 hits on my target at 25 yards out of the same left side barrel. So IMO nickel plated helped hold a tighter group. It also knocked the stuffing out of my double bearded gobbler last week at 25 yards. When I pulled the skin off the neck to inspect was nothing but red jelly and nickel plated shot buried everywhere. Itís been years since Iíve used #6 on turkeys. From what I remember most of my copper plated #6ís didnít break the skin like the nickel plated did at the same distance. With 100 grains of Fg it kicks more like a 20 gauge or a light 12 gauge load. I havenít shot my load through a chrony yet but was told by the guy who recommended the load itís around 900 FPS. So I would say itís SUB gauge equivalent velocities. Once the smoke cleared I saw my bird on the ground DRT!


I posted my targets with the load here...

http://parkerguns.org/forums/showthread.php?t=32852




I bought the 1873í Charles Daly 10 gauge Damascus SxS at a garage sale for $45 back in the early 90ís. It was rusted shut and missing a hammer. I finally got around to restoring it this winter. First animal taken with it. Coyotes are next! I worked up the same load with lead #2 but Iím not impressed with the 25 yard pattern. Iíll have to keep working on the load. The left barrel is choked tighter than the right.



Edited by Dultimatpredator (05/07/21 07:33 AM)

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#3288901 - 12/24/21 04:54 PM Re: Nickel plated shot in sub gauges [Re: Frankm]
Frankm Offline
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Registered: 10/25/19
Posts: 146
Loc: Idaho
Good info on patterning. Nice job on that Tom !

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#3289649 - 01/01/22 11:44 PM Re: Nickel plated shot in sub gauges [Re: Frankm]
Dultimatpredator Offline
Die Hard Member III

Registered: 07/06/07
Posts: 2717
Loc: Wisconsin
Thanks. Would like to trade for some BPI #5 nickel plated shot to try this year.

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