Jan 6

tnshootist

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Over and over again the leftist press repeats the same mantra.

There was an attack on the Capitol Jan 6 that was the biggest threat to democratic institutions in 100 years.

Jan6 was a riot.
Jan 6 was an insurrection.
All caused by Trumps baseless claim of election fraud.
Now they are adding to the mix-GOP complicity.
They are threatening to go after any Republican who does not play along with their "investigation"

I think I remember Jan 6 and I don't remember it this way.

All summer I remember looting, burning, killings and beatings.
Sustained attacks on Police. Snipers shooting Police.
This was done by mostly peaceful protesters.

Jan 6 was an insurrection.

Peaceful protest vs insurrection.

This is going to go down in history this way. This is what they will be teaching our kids.
 
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Trying to justify the actions of one group of buttholes by the actions of another group of buttholes only proves both groups were buttholes. Neither group was "right", both groups broke laws. Over 650 have been charged, out of those over a 100 have pled guilty.
 
The Feds lock people up in solitary for a year. Many are locked up without charges. The Feds are destroying lives over charges like trespassing.
So stating that some number of people have accepted deals and plead guilty is meaningless. It is guilty until proven innocent and I would guess that most of the people pleading guilty are doing so to be able to move on in life. NOT because they are guilty of anything other than being at the stupid "protest". The government can and will destroy your life, if you refuse to "cooperate" and plead guilty, they will see to it that IF you ever get to the end of the legal process, that you will be broke and your life ruined.
 
Originally Posted By: 6724The Feds lock people up in solitary for a year. Many are locked up without charges. The Feds are destroying lives over charges like trespassing.
So stating that some number of people have accepted deals and plead guilty is meaningless. It is guilty until proven innocent and I would guess that most of the people pleading guilty are doing so to be able to move on in life. NOT because they are guilty of anything other than being at the stupid "protest". The government can and will destroy your life, if you refuse to "cooperate" and plead guilty, they will see to it that IF you ever get to the end of the legal process, that you will be broke and your life ruined.

the process IS the punishment.

uncle sam has an unlimited budget to prosecute you. they can spend all the money they want to drag the case out.

so when you've got a choice to spend 10's of thousands of dollars on legal fees to see a case like this thru, or take a plea, its often advised by the defendants lawyer to take a simple guilty plea, and save yourself a couple years of court and thousands and thousands of dollars.



especailly for the small charges like trespassing that plea down to misdemeanors with no jail time and something like a year or so of probation and maybe some community service.

its not right that this is what happens. its what the left does. its what they've done for years -think environmental activists groups, animal rights groups, etc - and all the various lawsuits they've used to stop/stall projects they didnt agree with.
 
Originally Posted By: Plant.OneOriginally Posted By: 6724The Feds lock people up in solitary for a year. Many are locked up without charges. The Feds are destroying lives over charges like trespassing.
So stating that some number of people have accepted deals and plead guilty is meaningless. It is guilty until proven innocent and I would guess that most of the people pleading guilty are doing so to be able to move on in life. NOT because they are guilty of anything other than being at the stupid "protest". The government can and will destroy your life, if you refuse to "cooperate" and plead guilty, they will see to it that IF you ever get to the end of the legal process, that you will be broke and your life ruined.


the process IS the punishment.

uncle sam has an unlimited budget to prosecute you. they can spend all the money they want to drag the case out.

so when you've got a choice to spend 10's of thousands of dollars on legal fees to see a case like this thru, or take a plea, its often advised by the defendants lawyer to take a simple guilty plea, and save yourself a couple years of court and thousands and thousands of dollars.



especailly for the small charges like trespassing that plea down to misdemeanors with no jail time and something like a year or so of probation and maybe some community service.

its not right that this is what happens. its what the left does. its what they've done for years -think environmental activists groups, animal rights groups, etc - and all the various lawsuits they've used to stop/stall projects they didnt agree with.

That is exactly correct.

The left invited this protest because they knew there was no downside for them, but potentially massive upside. They have the media in their pocket and will have them repeat the [beeep] narrative over and over until they think everyone believes it as true.

The protest at the capitol had some dipshit people on our side ready to be vandals and such, probably very few of them. There were normal good people on our side that were not going to, and didn't do stupid stuff like vandalize, there were many of those. There was however another group, a group of people POSING as conservative right wing people, with one purpose, to do as much damage and vandalism as possible so that it could be blamed on the conservative protest, and get otherwise well meaning conservatives into a position they wouldn't otherwise put themselves in. There are plenty of videos of people doing illegal stuff, but many of those people were never caught up in the legal process. Why???
The protesters were set up, and they allowed themselves to be shown as idiots. The left did everything they could to set the stage for this to happen, and then stand back as act as though they are shocked and scared. They had people there to make sure it would do down as it did.

Nancy Pelosi made sure there was no national guard or other security that was not under her thumb.
 
The biggest crime of Jan 6, ANY citizens charged with trespassing the halls of congress,those halls and offices are the people's property. The democrats(especially the marxist part of the party) have forgotten they are only working there temporarily and at the will of the people. But than that is what they(dems) are trying change, our constitutional election requirements.
 
Honest Americans capable of critical thinking know that claims by the socialist Dems. and Marxists of an "insurrection" are bogus claims. The fake news just keeps repeating the lie.
 
Originally Posted By: ADKHonest Americans capable of critical thinking know that claims by the socialist Dems. and Marxists of an "insurrection" are bogus claims. The fake news just keeps repeating the lie.

 
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