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#3284867 - 11/05/21 07:30 PM Re: vaccinations... [Re: SlickerThanSnot]
tnshootist Offline
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Registered: 11/26/10
Posts: 7672
Loc: East Tn
It's about several things. Involving several players.
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#3284873 - 11/05/21 08:40 PM Re: vaccinations... [Re: SlickerThanSnot]
Sgt_Mike Offline
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Registered: 06/05/21
Posts: 96
Loc: Arkansas
Thus Far I have seen / survived:
Seventh cholera pandemic
London flu
Smallpox
Polio
1977 Russian flu
HIV/AIDS pandemic
1991 Latin America cholera epidemic
Anthrax
2002–2004 SARS outbreak
2009 swine flu pandemic
2012 Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus outbreak
2013–2014 chikungunya outbreak
2015–2016 Zika virus epidemic
I have even have been exposed to several differant military chemical agents through the years.

then now comes the COVID-19 pandemic this is THE FIRST TIME that our leaders Have ever tried to mandated 100% Vaccines. Dont think it not about power, the pharmacitical really dont care if they harm you or not, if they can get protection by law (which they do under the EUA aka The Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness Act), also WHY WHY did the FDA NOT remove the EUA when they approved Pfisher??? either its approved or under emergency use. My thought is so they can't be sued over side effects.

To everyone you have every right to choose to or not take the shot.
Make your own choice. That is the great thing abut our Country it's YOUR Choice noone else's

I dont have a medical degree so I can't and will not say or beg you to take or not take the shot.

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#3284878 - 11/05/21 09:41 PM Re: vaccinations... [Re: Sgt_Mike]
spotstalkshoot Offline
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Registered: 12/22/13
Posts: 2320
Loc: so.mn
And Fauci continues to lie about NIH and Eco Alliance roll in directing U.S. taxpayers money to the Wuhan Lab of Virology. Millions during the Obama presidency for the study of combining viruses to see if they could infect humans. There is a genome in the COVID19 virus that is not normal. Fauci, responsible for 5 million deaths, no wonder he is lying in front of congress. And you believe his mask/vaccine advice? This the nature of the democrat party being overtaken by marxist and socialists.

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#3284881 - 11/05/21 09:50 PM Re: vaccinations... [Re: SlickerThanSnot]
Sgt_Mike Offline
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Registered: 06/05/21
Posts: 96
Loc: Arkansas
look here at this law firms post:

https://www.findlaw.com/litigation/filing-a-lawsuit/can-i-sue-a-vaccine-manufacturer-.html


that will support my statements above.


before we discuss Fauci I need to take 6 weeks of blood pressure meds at one time lol.

I find it something to note when a Senator whom is a M.D. nailing Fauci in front of the Senate. I have never seen M.D's go after each other (except the Nuremburg Trials) .... speaks volume

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#3285001 - 11/07/21 08:37 PM Re: vaccinations... [Re: BrianID]
BAYSTATE YOTE Offline
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Registered: 01/06/10
Posts: 3276
Loc: Big Foots Back Yard
So you think that we who don't want this experimental drug in our bodies, are refusing because Biden is President? I want to remind people on here that the main causes of death in this country are Cancer, Heart disease, Medical mistakes and Over prescribing of pharmaceuticals, I would have to say that number four directly contributes to the first two.
My mentor George, was a WW2 vet, when he died the doctors had he and his wife on no less than twelve pharma drugs, how can we expect an 85 year old to live with all that poison in his system?
Our blood stream evolved to carry oxygen, nutrients, distribute pathogens killing anti bodies and so on.. Not to be a sewer filled with unnatural chemicals that work against nature.
All of our medical schools, FDA, NHIH, NIHD and so on are controlled by Big Pharma, Big Agriculture, Big Insurance, and Lobbyist in Washington, they don't care about your health, in fact the sicker you get the richer they get...
Your doctor doesn't care about you, because he cant, he has to many patients and not enough time and money to do so..The whole system is a racket, that we all pay thru the nose for.
Hippocrates, has many quotes about the human medical condition, you should go look at some of them, but some in particular are as relevant today as they were in his time.

“Natural forces within us are the true healers of disease.”
Hippocrates

“All disease begins in the gut.”
Hippocrates

“Let food be thy medicine and medicine be thy food.”
Hippocrates

If you are not your own doctor, you are a fool.
Hippocrates

Foolish the doctor who despises the knowledge acquired by the ancients.
Hippocrates

Physicians are many in title but very few in reality.
Hippocrates

Now back to the so called Vaccine, or mRNA injections, we all can pretty much agree that last November when the powers that be installed basement Joe as President elect there were approximately 275K to 300K Americans who had supposedly died of COVID, that was under Trump, with no vaccines,now we are at a death toll of 770K or so, and yet we started Vaxing last December after the election, we to date have what say 70 percent vaxed? So why more deaths in the last year?
And what if you all who are vaxed, and shedding the spike proteins that you body is manufacturing, are the reason for the so called Delta variant?
And why is it that any doctor that asks these questions, or has an alternative to treating this virus that does not involve hospitalization, and a respirator, threatened with loss of their license to practice? And why are hospitals being paid more if a patient dies than if they save them? And why are we now going to start vaxing kids when they are not getting sick and hospitalized or spreading the disease, in fact more are dyeing of suicide than from COVID, and why aren't more of you on here asking these questions?
Well some doctors, are pointing out the obvious, thank the Lord..

https://youtu.be/OvM5meOXk9o?t=10









Edited by BAYSTATE YOTE (11/07/21 08:44 PM)
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#3285234 - 11/11/21 08:18 AM Re: vaccinations... [Re: SlickerThanSnot]
tnshootist Offline
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Registered: 11/26/10
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Loc: East Tn
My granddaughter had the virus. I reckon she is ok. Still has a cough.
40 kids in this county are positive for the virus this week.

I don't know if kids should have the vaccine or not but kids do get the virus.

Some get pretty sick. My granddaughter was pretty sick. I hope she does not have damage to her lungs.
It's a virus. I will not ridicule others decision.
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#3285246 - 11/11/21 01:05 PM Re: vaccinations... [Re: SlickerThanSnot]
Plant.One Offline
Die Hard Member with a vengeance

Registered: 02/12/15
Posts: 4827
Loc: Oakland County, MI
i'm not here to tell anyone what to do to their kids... just that if you're gonna vax them you need to look at the risks they face and make a decision based on those facts.



the local fear mongering news outlet that loves to toe the administration line with the virus the whole time just released an article about how bad cases are amongst school aged kids.


they were kind enough to point out that of 1.5 million kids in school in michigan that 34 ended up in the hospital to date.

which equates to a 0.0022% hospitalization rate so far amongst school aged kids. total. throughout the whole virus.

they also rank an "outbreak" as two or more cases and discusssed the roughly 500 outbreaks in the state...

there was also another recent article about national death statistics for kids, again trying to fearmonger parents into getting their kids the shot.

less than 700 kids total have died from covid out of the approx 5 million who have tested positive. i cant find the exact statistic i saw a week or so ago but it boiled down to somewhere around 0.0459% fatality rate from confirmed cases. like stupid low... a fraction of a fraction of a percent.



its gotten so silly here with the quarantine on exposure rules that entire school districts are abandoning the policy.

my cousins oldest daughter was sent home twice inside of 10 days because of "possible exposure" last month. she got sent home for the first one, went back to school the following week and a few days later got sent home again. She's already had covid, she's got antibodies - her risk of getting covid again are a lower than that of even a fully vaccinated person - and she got sent home to quarantine TWICE as a healthy young adult with no symptoms at all. the school board had so many complaints about kids missing valuable days of school over the nonsense they had no choice but to drop the policy.

it was causing more harm than good.


we need to go back to basing decisions on facts and data and stop all the hype, fearmongering and general politicization of this virus. its out of hand and needs to end.
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#3285260 - 11/11/21 02:38 PM Re: vaccinations... [Re: SlickerThanSnot]
tnshootist Offline
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Registered: 11/26/10
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Loc: East Tn
I am not sure which numbers to go by as I have no faith in any of them.
All the number people have an agenda.

The only people who might have facts are the people who made the virus and they ain't talking.

I might suggest people base their decision on what they see themselves in their part of the country.
Numbers from somewhere else might not mean much.

I believe hand washing and keeping fingers out of mouths works. Other than that I don't know.

By now I have known several people who were said to have it. Some died. Some are still having trouble with it. Some shook it off like a cold.

It's a virus. No telling how many versions it has mutated into. It will be around for ever.
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#3285268 - 11/11/21 05:29 PM Re: vaccinations... [Re: tnshootist]
BAYSTATE YOTE Offline
Die Hard Member III

Registered: 01/06/10
Posts: 3276
Loc: Big Foots Back Yard
I will not judge anyone who takes the vaccine, only you know your health situation, I am just saying there is a lot more to what we are experiencing than meets the eye..
Does this look like what We have been living through in the last 1 1/2 years?

https://truth11.com/2021/10/23/mike-yead...021-march-2022/
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#3285275 - 11/11/21 07:17 PM Re: vaccinations... [Re: SlickerThanSnot]
tnshootist Offline
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Registered: 11/26/10
Posts: 7672
Loc: East Tn
Yes it sounds familiar.
I have been saying this stuff for several years. Been told to get a foil hat several times.
A lot of people involved in this virus thing are on the level and are doing the best they can.

Many are not. Experience tells me that there is no way to know what is truth and what is lies.

Most times "follow the money" is the best guess at truth.
In this case follow the money I think is a side business. Power is the goal. Those who think they are gaining power will be surprised when they have served their purpose.
I think China will come out before long with some information for the world. Probably starting with Taiwan.

I am concerned that we have not seen the real virus yet.
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#3285321 - 11/12/21 11:49 AM Re: vaccinations... [Re: tnshootist]
Plant.One Offline
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Registered: 02/12/15
Posts: 4827
Loc: Oakland County, MI
Originally Posted By: tnshootist


I am concerned that we have not seen the real virus yet.


they were messing with another virus in the same lab that had a 50-80% fatality rate - the Nipah Virus

they found all kinds of samples in the same WUhan lab that they were working on back in Dec 2019 and they were supposedly about 2 years ahead of covid in their research of it.


so yea.. there's some sh!t to be worried about for sure.
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#3285338 - 11/12/21 02:42 PM Re: vaccinations... [Re: Plant.One]
spotstalkshoot Offline
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Registered: 12/22/13
Posts: 2320
Loc: so.mn
That's what communist countries do, research how to make biological weapons. Free countries figure out how to fight or prevent biological casualties. Unfortunately under a democrat president taxpayer money(provided by NIH,under Fauci) was used/appears to be used by a communist country to research gain of function of a corona virus(A). Than during the re-election year of a popular opposition president, a form of the researched virus "escapes" from the lab and is transported out of the country by it's citizens. Some would say criminal, others act of war, odd that the democrats would say "accident".

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#3285346 - 11/12/21 04:48 PM Re: vaccinations... [Re: spotstalkshoot]
BAYSTATE YOTE Offline
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Registered: 01/06/10
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Loc: Big Foots Back Yard
"That's what Communist Countries do"
Really? Have you ever heard of Fort Detrick in Maryland? Ever heard of "Operation Paperclip" when we grabbed the Japanese and Germans chemical and biological weapons experts after WW2 (all were war criminals) and gave them cart blanche to keep going with weapons development..
Our government has been doing some really nasty things for years, weather communist or capitalist, Men with unlimited power tend to become monsters..
Eight days from now will be the 58 year anniversary of our National Security state murdering a President, then we all watched as the politicians, law enforcement, and the main stream news outlets banded together to cover it up... In 63' they used bullets, in 2020 they used a virus to remove a President..
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#3285377 - 11/13/21 06:07 AM Re: vaccinations... [Re: SlickerThanSnot]
243kimber Offline
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Registered: 08/14/09
Posts: 858
Loc: madison county illinois
PM members here have restored my faith in humanity. Great posts about seeing through the media, the politicians, and big Pharma's lies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRCzZp1J0v0

Joe rogan interviews Bret Weinstein. This is a short video. The entire interview can be seen/heard on Spotify.
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#3289091 - 12/27/21 11:42 PM Re: vaccinations... [Re: SlickerThanSnot]
viper Offline
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Registered: 05/03/07
Posts: 1276
Loc: Tucson, Arizona
I wonder if the 800,000 dead Americans would take it if given the chance to have that shot?

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