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#3254921 - 10/17/20 10:32 AM I am in love with Blue Dot powder
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Went to the range with a couple friends yesterday. More of a play day than a get serious day. My favorite kind. Anyway, I brought along my .17 Remington and my .204 Ruger both loaded with Blue Dot powder. 10 grains for the former and 12 for the latter. I had a variety of bullets loaded in both. For the .17 I had Vmax, Nosler, Calhoon and Barnes. My very first group with the .17 gave me all 5 touching at 100 yards. That's hard to do when your bullets are only .172"! Then I swapped to the .204 with that was loaded with 26, 32, 34,and 40 grain bullets and not one group was over a half inch. And what was neat was never did I have to wait for the barrel to cool between strings. It never got hot. Excuse the pun, but how cool is that?

Our Idaho ground squirrels are small and easy to kill. So come next spring I'm going to dispatch a few of them with these reduced loads. And if I keep using them I may never have to buy another barrel! Yippee!
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#3254922 - 10/17/20 10:42 AM Re: I am in love with Blue Dot powder [Re: Rustydust]
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That sounds really interesting. Any theoretical speeds on those?

Greg
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#3254923 - 10/17/20 10:47 AM Re: I am in love with Blue Dot powder [Re: GLShooter]
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Originally Posted By: GLShooter
That sounds really interesting. Any theoretical speeds on those?

Greg


According to my load data they are around 3000 fps. While I had my chronograph in my truck I never took it out. I was just testing for group size yesterday. If the weather holds I well be back out tomorrow to check speeds and make sure that I can duplicate those groups.
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#3254924 - 10/17/20 10:56 AM Re: I am in love with Blue Dot powder [Re: Rustydust]
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That sounds more than adequate as it would equal my 17 Win Super Mag. Cheaper to shoot than that one too unless you are buying $100.00/brick primers.

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#3254930 - 10/17/20 11:33 AM Re: I am in love with Blue Dot powder [Re: GLShooter]
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Originally Posted By: GLShooter
That sounds more than adequate as it would equal my 17 Win Super Mag. Cheaper to shoot than that one too unless you are buying $100.00/brick primers.

Greg


I have lot of .17 Remington brass. Most of it is loaded ammo but all I got to do to get empties is to shoot it up, right? So I will do that a bit more come spring. That's the plan anyway. And primers I have too. Neat thing about these low pressure rounds is that you can use pistol primers if you want. The guy (Seafire) that developed these loads uses them quite often and says that either is good.
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#3254932 - 10/17/20 11:47 AM Re: I am in love with Blue Dot powder [Re: Rustydust]
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How dirty a burn are those loads? Easy to clean?

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#3254934 - 10/17/20 11:56 AM Re: I am in love with Blue Dot powder [Re: Rustydust]
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I used to shoot 600 rounds on my 221 and 223 with fire ball loads. The fire ball did not get hard to clean till I got up to 900 rounds without cleaning, Shilen Select match Stainless barrels. I shot the 50g Speer TNT in the fire ball, had a range of loads:

50g tnt at 2600 for short range shooting, Blue Dot
50g tnt at 3000 with 1680
50g tnt at 3200 with AA1680

Remington brass was all there were in those days

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#3254935 - 10/17/20 12:19 PM Re: I am in love with Blue Dot powder [Re: spotstalkshoot]
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Originally Posted By: spotstalkshoot
How dirty a burn are those loads? Easy to clean?


My .204 took me two passes of solvent soaked patches to clean this morning. I like that.
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#3254948 - 10/17/20 05:50 PM Re: I am in love with Blue Dot powder [Re: Rustydust]
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I use blue dot for some of my HEAVE 1 3/8 and 1 1/2 oz, 12 gauge shotgun loads
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#3254949 - 10/17/20 06:07 PM Re: I am in love with Blue Dot powder [Re: Rustydust]
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In the same theme I use 800x for my lowpower rifle loads 222 Rem, 223 and 5.6x50R Mag. It also loads my 12ga coyote loads 1 1/4 oz NP BB's. Calhoun started with 800x for light loads and then moved to Bluedot as it metered better.

Data is available over at the Calhoun Bullet sight.


Edited by AWS (10/17/20 06:08 PM)
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#3254972 - 10/18/20 06:38 AM Re: I am in love with Blue Dot powder [Re: Rustydust]
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Registered: 11/22/03
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Working with wildcats and developing loads is one thing.

The seafire blue dot stuff is off the table for me. He banged his drum around a bunch of different forums years ago. At that time he was bragging on full tilt speeds in a 7mag with blue dot. Show me what kind of pressures and the curve, he never could. He claimed the powder manufactures would not do the load data for BD because they would lose money and sales on all the other powders.

One can do as they please.
Powder and primers are cheap.
Guns and hospital bills are expensive.

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#3254980 - 10/18/20 10:06 AM Re: I am in love with Blue Dot powder [Re: Rustydust]
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such a Karen. lol

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#3255040 - 10/18/20 08:09 PM Re: I am in love with Blue Dot powder [Re: jsh]
Rustydust Online
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Originally Posted By: jsh


One can do as they please.
Powder and primers are cheap.
Guns and hospital bills are expensive.


I for one have not heard of anyone blowing up their guns and getting hospitalized using reduced charges of Blue Dot. Is there a link that you can share with us with this happening?
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#3255121 - 10/19/20 12:15 PM Re: I am in love with Blue Dot powder [Re: Rustydust]
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Rusty, I think it was 10 yrs ago there were some pictures of a guy that blew up a rifle with Bluedot and got hurt, it might have been a double charge by mistake, no way to tell.

Here's a link to the Bluedot blow up.
http://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/2511043/m/8131029301

When I load my light loads I always charge and seat the bullet right away.


Edited by AWS (10/19/20 12:23 PM)
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#3255123 - 10/19/20 12:22 PM Re: I am in love with Blue Dot powder [Re: Rustydust]
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Loc: Oakland County, MI
http://www.jamescalhoon.com/tobee2.php

the source data for those not familiar with it.


hth
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