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#3252540 - 09/16/20 08:51 PM Re: covid #"s [Re: suprsongdgslyr]
R.Shaw Offline
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Registered: 12/23/01
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Loc: Nebraska
Concerning masks, I researched most of the studies beginning in 2020 and back to 2016. The conclusion of each of them was that wearing a mask does not significantly reduce transmission of the flu. Even the beloved CDC recently issued a statement which said the N95 masks with the filters did not work in reducing transmission. They also added that most cloth masks did nothing to help and those gaiters a lot of people are wearing, actually made it worse. Wearing a mask reduces your oxygen level below OSHA standards and now there are people complaining of dry eyes due to the warm air escaping from atop the mask.

If you want to research something else, begin with the vaccine that is soon to be released. Check out the work of Communist Fauci and Comrade Gates. Look at the number of children who were crippled or injured in India, Italy, and south Africa when they were injected with one of Gate's vaccines.
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#3252544 - 09/16/20 09:35 PM Re: covid #"s [Re: suprsongdgslyr]
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LOL, I bet those dry eyes are sure worse than a ventilator shoved down your throat.Do what you want. 200,000 dead people aren't around to argue and I won't waste my time and yours. I personally don't care what you do. I wear a mask.


Edited by pyscodog (09/16/20 09:46 PM)
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#3252548 - 09/16/20 10:18 PM Re: covid #"s [Re: suprsongdgslyr]
R.Shaw Offline
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Loc: Nebraska
Wear one if you want, but don't forget the facemask and goggles that Fauchi is now recommending.
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#3252549 - 09/16/20 10:58 PM Re: covid #"s [Re: suprsongdgslyr]
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The guy from the club didn't think a mask would help either. He's in his second week in the hospital. He may think different if he gets out.... alive.
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#3252591 - 09/17/20 02:40 PM Re: covid #"s [Re: R.Shaw]
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Registered: 07/23/06
Posts: 16534
Loc: S. Texas
The following statistics make it a bit easier to see why opinions regarding Covid vary so greatly depending upon one's location. This is a very large country with widely varying population density, so one size does not fit all.

Are masks effective in preventing infection? IDK, but where I live, with current conditions, I think I'll continue to wear a mask. wink

This article credits one death and 75 new cases in 6 Nebraska counties over 2 day period recently, the county adjacent to us reported 325 new cases overnight.
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New COVID-19-related death, more cases in central Nebraska

By Lorena Carmona
Published: Sep. 15, 2020 at 7:19 AM CDT

HASTINGS, KEARNEY, GRAND ISLAND, Neb. (KSNB) - The South Heartland District Health Department (SHDHD) reported a COVID-19-related death within the district.

“We extend our condolences to the family,” South Heartland District Heartland executive director Michele Bever said. “This was an Adams County man in his 70s, who was hospitalized, with no known underlying health conditions and no known exposure to a positive case.”....................

From Friday through Sunday, the Two Rivers Public Health Department reported 75 new cases of the virus. Most of the cases are out of Buffalo County.

COVID-19 cases from September 11 - September 13

Buffalo County: 52
Dawson County: 8
Phelps County: 7
Gosper County: 4
Kearney County: 3
Harlan County: 1
https://www.ksnblocal4.com/2020/09/15/new-covid-19-related-death-more-cases-in-central-nebraska/


Google says
Total Nebraska Cases to date=39419, total Covid Deaths= 455

Our county's Total Cases = 22,296, total Covid Deaths= 854

The adjacent county
reports.....Total Cases = 30,046,...total Covid Deaths=1470

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#3252593 - 09/17/20 03:23 PM Re: covid #"s [Re: suprsongdgslyr]
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I understand fully about the numbers. To bad there isn't a better way but its all we have. My thoughts, I hate these dam masks, but at my age if wearing it may give me a slight edge, then I'll wear the dang thing. Its a lot better than being in the hospital opening morning of deer season. Wearing a mask isn't going to kill you. Covid might.


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#3252598 - 09/17/20 03:49 PM Re: covid #"s [Re: pyscodog]
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^^^Yep, w/score of 84/60 (84YO/60% lung cap'y.), me too. Not a gambler anyway and I don't like those odds. smile

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#3252609 - 09/17/20 07:48 PM Re: covid #"s [Re: R.Shaw]
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Registered: 06/04/08
Posts: 709
Loc: Southern IN
Originally Posted By: R.Shaw
Concerning masks,

You need to learn how to research better. The current Director of the CDC just said this week in under oath testimony in the US Senate that wearing a mask protected him better than the vaccine would.

You are confused and have no clue what you are talking about. There are various kinds of mask with different filtering system. N95 is one of the better paper type masks. The materials used in a N95 NIOSH certified mask can filter out virus particles down to very small microns in size. And there are even better masks that can filter out virus. These use screw in filter cartridges in Powered Air Purifying Respirators (PAPR)like you see in Research labs that work with virus every day. If they didn't work then the workers were all be sick and that does not happen. And if N95 didn't work all the hospital workers would be sick with the virus and the hospitals would have to close down. So that alone proves you have no clue what you are talking about.

The masks that don't really protect You when you wear them are the paper masks. These cheap masks won't filter out small particles like virus. But they will stop larger particles that are carrying attached smaller viruses on them. Large droplets that spew out of one's mouth when we talk. These paper masks are worn to stop an infected person from spewing larger spit droplets out of their mouth. We wear these masks to slow the spread of virus particles from infected people.

Get your facts straight and stop parroting that idiot Trump.

I so stick of stupid people that have no idea what they are talking about when it comes to this virus.


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#3252623 - 09/17/20 09:54 PM Re: covid #"s [Re: suprsongdgslyr]
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Registered: 12/23/01
Posts: 445
Loc: Nebraska
You are going to lecture me on how to conduct research when your's consists of listening to someone testify on TV? If testimony is the gold standard, I once heard a man testify that WTC7 collapsed due to office fires. Here are a few headlines to use as examples and it took less than 5 minutes.

American Airlines bans face masks with vents or valves, becomes latest carrier to announce the policy

Neck Gaiters for COVID-19 Worse Than No Face Covering At All

CDC: Masks With Valves or Vents Not Effective - AARP


And this quote from the CDC

Masks are recommended as a simple barrier to help prevent respiratory droplets from traveling into the air and onto other people when the person wearing the mask coughs, sneezes, talks, or raises their voice. This is called source control.

Masks are to protect those around you. Not prevent you from getting the virus. That is unless you are wearing one of those over the counter masks with those screw in canisters. How many of those have I observed? Exactly zero.


Edited by R.Shaw (09/17/20 11:18 PM)
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#3252638 - 09/18/20 12:35 AM Re: covid #"s [Re: suprsongdgslyr]
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Registered: 07/30/15
Posts: 1374
Loc: WY
Masks are nothing more than a symbol of submission. People who insist in forcing everyone to wear them are highly suggestable slaves.

Coronavirus is a democrat and chineese communist party bioweapon being used against the USA to destroy the economy and our freedom. The demnocrat party is a party sympathetic to communists and communism.


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#3254027 - 10/05/20 08:56 PM Re: covid #"s [Re: suprsongdgslyr]
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Registered: 12/11/05
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Seven months into the Covid virus we now know that 997 of every 1000 infected Americans survive the virus. We've damaged our economy,perhaps beyond repair. We've cheated our children out of an education,perhaps damaging them for life. We've condemned thousands of elderly Americans to dying alone in nursing homes. We've suspended the God given rights guaranteed to us in the U.S. Constitution. Why? Because we remain cowering from a virus that has become less and less deadly as time goes on. The land of the 'free and the brave' has become the land of cowards.
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#3254036 - 10/05/20 10:14 PM Re: covid #"s [Re: suprsongdgslyr]
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sheep. bunch of friggin sheep. you see it all around you. if joe blow would drive off a cliff, 5 others would surely follow.

dumb sheep at that.
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#3254042 - 10/05/20 10:30 PM Re: covid #"s [Re: suprsongdgslyr]
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So your saying 3 out of 1000 die? What about all the rest that spend weeks in the hospital? Granted not all end up there but a bunch do. I have a friend thats on his 5th week there. Just today in a small town outside of Tulsa a Jr high school closed down because 5 teachers tested positive. That means 5 classrooms of children are exposed to the virus and they bring it home and expose their families. How many are in contact with them?? Your blatant neglect of how serious this virus is is the reason we will never get rid of it. Trump got it, his wife got it, half the people in the WH have it. Pull your head out and do your part to help stop it. Your comment of "free and the brave" reminds me of an old joke. "Anyone can quit smoking...it takes a man to face cancer" Sounds kinda stupid doesn't it? If not wanting myself or my family and friends to not catch the virus makes us cowards, its better than being stupid. So you just go head on and be brave. Pray that your "bravery" doesn't kill you or your family.
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#3254050 - 10/05/20 11:25 PM Re: covid #"s [Re: ADK]
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Originally Posted By: ADK
Seven months into the Covid virus we now know that 997 of every 1000 infected Americans survive the virus.



I don't know where you got these numbers, but for sake of argument we will use them. So 3 people die....what if those three were your best friends that you've know all your life? What if they were your wife and kids? What if they were your Mom and Dad and brother,Grand parents? How many people have to die before the number is great enough that you start caring? If social distancing and wearing a mask would save their lives, would it have been worth it. If not, you only care about yourself and everyone else, well I guess that's just to bad.

You can call me a coward or sheep. I been called worse by better people. I don't care. I will continue to wear a mask and do all I can to keep myself, my family and friends as safe as possible. Calling me names only tells me and others that all you care about is yourself. So if it makes you feel good go ahead. I do know wearing a mask doesn't hurt near as bad as wearing a ventilator.
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#3254063 - 10/06/20 06:34 AM Re: covid #"s [Re: suprsongdgslyr]
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Registered: 07/30/15
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Loc: WY
So long as people keep submitting they will keep advancing the goal post closer to full on socialism.

What do democrats have planned for the coming flu season....martial law and a complete shut down of society while they allow blm/antifa to burn loot and murder.







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