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#3252501 - 09/16/20 11:55 AM 53 grain Vmax
Rustydust Offline
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Registered: 10/21/07
Posts: 6143
Loc: Southwest Idaho
Hey All

Went to the range yesterday to play with some new loads for my .223 AI. I am a big fan of H335 powder for this cartridge and guess that I always will be. But I recently got a jug of N133 powder from someone who is getting out of reloading and decided to give that a try. I had some 52-53 grain bullets (Speer, Sierra, Berger, Nosler) collecting dust so loaded some of them up. I also had some 53 grain Vmaxes on the shelf so...why not? My Hart barrel is a 1/14" twist and heard that it was likely that the Vmax would not work very well. Wrong! No only did they shoot good, but they gave me my only 1/4" 5 shot group of the day. I only had 5 of them loaded as I was not expecting much out of them. I guess that I will have to hit the range again soon with more of them and see if I can duplicate it.

So any of you having good luck with this bullet too? I was more that pleased with how well it did in my gun first try. If I can duplicate this again I may have me a new favorite.
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#3252506 - 09/16/20 12:58 PM Re: 53 grain Vmax [Re: Rustydust]
SnowmanMo Offline
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Registered: 09/23/08
Posts: 3543
Loc: Phoenix, Az
I have not used the 53gr Vmax in my handloads. I used the 53gr Vmax in factory Hornady ammunition and had mixed results. In standard loads, they were accurate and seemed to anchor coyotes just fine. But the Superformance line wasn't very accurate. Full disclosure, I am not a big fan of the Superformance line at all. The accuracy isn't what I have come to expect from Hornady. I don't think that velocity is the end-all-be-all for ammunition. I loved the Hornady Vmax's in m .204 in the "Custom Load" line from Hornady, but won't buy the Superformance for the .204 While testing it, I was getting keyholing out of the same barrel that was cutting the same hole in the Custom line.

Sounds to me like the quality control for the 53's is there based on your accuracy. I had seen some spotty quality control out of the 55gr Vmax line with weights varying 1-3 grains.

I eagerly await the results when you put it on fur.
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#3252507 - 09/16/20 01:03 PM Re: 53 grain Vmax [Re: Rustydust]
B23 Offline
Die Hard Member III

Registered: 12/07/11
Posts: 2224
Loc: Pacific NW
RD, I've been shooting these bullets since they very first hit the market and I probably shoot more 53gr Vmax bullets than all other 22 cal bullets combined.

My 9tw 223AI and 12tw 22-250 love them, but coyotes hate them and they are definitely NOT pelt friendly.

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#3252510 - 09/16/20 01:21 PM Re: 53 grain Vmax [Re: Rustydust]
arky65 Offline
Seasoned Member

Registered: 01/16/05
Posts: 247
Loc: AR
Rusty, N133 became my go to .223 powder many years ago. I, have found N133 to work well with 50-70 bullets in all .223 chambered rifles I have tried it.

But, I have had issues with it going bad. Few years ago notice strong smell in my powder cabinet and upon inspection found swollen bottle, opened it and a brown cloud came out of bottle. Also had some loaded rounds that had been stored for several years, secrete blue green slime round the neck, and out of primer pocket. The issue is document on the interweb do a search.


Called them,they blamed it on improper storage. Funny thing none of the other brands of powder stored in the same cabinet had issues some of it 50 years old.


From my understanding they have quietly fixed the issue in the past several years.

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#3252537 - 09/16/20 07:08 PM Re: 53 grain Vmax [Re: Rustydust]
Terry Lightle Offline
Seasoned Member

Registered: 01/13/19
Posts: 161
Loc: Sand Springs,Okla
I am shooting the 53 grain V MAX in my 223 that we talked about loads for a while back,very happy with them with the 26 grains of Varget you told me about.

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#3252551 - 09/16/20 11:01 PM Re: 53 grain Vmax [Re: Terry Lightle]
Rustydust Offline
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Registered: 10/21/07
Posts: 6143
Loc: Southwest Idaho
Originally Posted By: Terry Lightle
I am shooting the 53 grain V MAX in my 223 that we talked about loads for a while back,very happy with them with the 26 grains of Varget you told me about.


Hey! Great it is still working for you so well! 26 grains of Varget with either the 50 grain Vmax or the Nosler Ballistic Tip was my go-to load for my .223 for like a decade. I still have loaded boxes of it on the shelf. With not so much as a clue what number two powder that I bought the most of in the last 15 years, Varget is most certainly number one.
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#3252561 - 09/17/20 06:21 AM Re: 53 grain Vmax [Re: Rustydust]
parson Offline
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Registered: 11/16/13
Posts: 463
Loc: North Dakota
I agree with snowmanmo, I have not found Hornay’s super performance to be as accurate as standard loads. Not saying the stuff is bad. I suspect it maybe a quality control problem more than a velocity issue

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#3252628 - 09/17/20 11:19 PM Re: 53 grain Vmax [Re: Rustydust]
ilmo Offline
Seasoned Member

Registered: 07/11/05
Posts: 405
Loc: illinois/missouri
Some of the highest velocity loads I ever chronoed with 50 gr bullets in 223 were with vn133. They were also some of the most accurate. Most powders seem to not have peak accuracy with peak velocity. I love vn133

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#3252738 - 09/19/20 09:18 AM Re: 53 grain Vmax [Re: Rustydust]
Idaho-45-5R Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 12/17/10
Posts: 32
Loc: N Idaho
Rusty, I, too, have had great luck with the 53 grain V-Max in a 223.. And, I've also been using Varget under them. Very accurate out of a Remmy 700 5R 223, 1-9" twist. My favorite Varmint bullet!!!!!!

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#3252743 - 09/19/20 09:56 AM Re: 53 grain Vmax [Re: Idaho-45-5R]
spotstalkshoot Offline
Die Hard Member II

Registered: 12/22/13
Posts: 1802
Loc: so.mn
Elevation and velocity is your friend when twist is a little slow.

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#3252745 - 09/19/20 09:58 AM Re: 53 grain Vmax [Re: Idaho-45-5R]
Rustydust Offline
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Registered: 10/21/07
Posts: 6143
Loc: Southwest Idaho
Originally Posted By: Idaho-45-5R
Rusty, I, too, have had great luck with the 53 grain V-Max in a 223.. And, I've also been using Varget under them. Very accurate out of a Remmy 700 5R 223, 1-9" twist. My favorite Varmint bullet!!!!!!


I have not tried them with Varget yet. I was mainly concerned with how well they would work with my 1/14" twist Hart barrel. Now that I know that they shoot wonderful in it I will have to try my old favorite Varget and see how they do. No reason to think that they will not continue to please.
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