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#3249391 - 08/01/20 09:15 AM Which bolt action?
seasley Offline
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Registered: 07/23/09
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Loc: oklahoma, Tulsa county
Looking to buy a bolt action in 22-250 or 204

What maker would you recommend?

I am looking hard at kimber, and would prefer no magazine

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#3249395 - 08/01/20 09:38 AM Re: Which bolt action? [Re: seasley]
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Sounds like you want a varmint rifle, but I dont know if what you want to something to shoot off a bench, like a heavy varmint, or something light and easy to tote around in the coyote fields.

Hard to beat a Savage and they are often on sale somewhere. I used to turn my nose up them years ago but not any more. Shoot too dang good.
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#3249402 - 08/01/20 10:51 AM Re: Which bolt action? [Re: Rustydust]
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Rusty, the major problem with the Savage is that it has no snob appeal

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#3249408 - 08/01/20 11:38 AM Re: Which bolt action? [Re: seasley]
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Tikka...
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#3249411 - 08/01/20 11:39 AM Re: Which bolt action? [Re: seasley]
Terry Lightle Offline
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Registered: 01/13/19
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Loc: Sand Springs,Okla
They have magazines,but bought a Tikka 22-250 last year and liked it so much I bought another 1 in 223 a little while back.Did not think they made anything but Winchester Model 70 for at least the last 40 years but the Tikka changed my mind.Main thing is make yourself happy and enjoy whatever you get.

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#3249415 - 08/01/20 12:08 PM Re: Which bolt action? [Re: seasley]
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Howa 1500/Weatherby Vanguard are nice rifles, everyone loves their Tikka's, Rem. I like them, I haven't owned a Ruger bolt action but I do like the short action RSI and a Model 70 is classy. I shoot Savages(5), Rem(2), Sako(1), Win Mod 70(1) and a Howa Mini. No brand loyalty here. I'm always on the lookout for a inexpensive 222 Rem bolt action preferably a Howa Mini, Mini Mauser or Sako L-461 note inexpensive, I want a shooter not a safe queen.


Edited by AWS (08/01/20 12:11 PM)
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#3249416 - 08/01/20 12:10 PM Re: Which bolt action? [Re: seasley]
jetman Offline
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Registered: 01/07/11
Posts: 1384
Loc: almost Canada
22/250 and 204 are ballistically are twins up to about 45 gr bullets, then the 22/250 come to the forefront.
The 204 you can "See" your shot, most 22/250 you can't, recoil.
Depends on what you want to shoot. Check out Thomson center venture or compuss rifle very good, fair price,
https://www.tcarms.com/firearms/bolt-action-rifles/t-c-compass-rifles
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#3249417 - 08/01/20 12:13 PM Re: Which bolt action? [Re: GC]
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Registered: 08/24/02
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Loc: Hanover,MA
Originally Posted By: GC
Tikka...


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#3249418 - 08/01/20 12:16 PM Re: Which bolt action? [Re: seasley]
seasley Offline
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Registered: 07/23/09
Posts: 967
Loc: oklahoma, Tulsa county
This will be a carry/coyote rifle, no bench

The last savage I had was a lemon, thatís why I didnít list it

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#3249423 - 08/01/20 12:54 PM Re: Which bolt action? [Re: seasley]
Winny Fan Offline
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Registered: 08/12/11
Posts: 2160
Loc: Central Texas
Originally Posted By: seasley
This will be a carry/coyote rifle, no bench

The last savage I had was a lemon, thatís why I didnít list it


In spite of what you read on the internet, your lemon wasn't Savage's first and it won't be their last either.

The bad thing if you get a Savage lemon is you now own something that has poor resale value to begin with, and now it doesn't shoot well either. A lose lose proposition, imo.
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#3249435 - 08/01/20 01:41 PM Re: Which bolt action? [Re: seasley]
derbyacresbob Offline
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What twist rate are you looking for in a 22-250?

Don't buy a 1-14" twist barrel unless you plan on shooting 50 gr and lighter lead bullets.

You can shoot a wider range of bullet weights with a 1-12" or faster twist rate barrel.
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#3249440 - 08/01/20 02:30 PM Re: Which bolt action? [Re: parson]
Rustydust Offline
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Originally Posted By: parson
Rusty, the major problem with the Savage is that it has no snob appeal


Boy, aint that the truth? I used to think that that was one of those guns you bought if you wanted a decent rifle but did not have the coin for something like a Ruger or Remington or a Winchester.

But whenever Gun Test Magazine did a comparison test using bolt action centerfire rifles I will be danged if a Savage did not win every time. At first I just thought it was a fluke but in every test? Especially the accuracy portion? Had to be more than meets the eye here.

Right now I have a 112 Savage (holding it in my Avatar) two model 12's as well. Do I like them better than my M700 Remingtons? Well, no. The Savages are bit on the ugly side. But out of the box it is hard to beat a Savage when it comes to accuracy. I guess Gun Test magazine did not get a bunch of flukes after all.
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#3249441 - 08/01/20 02:33 PM Re: Which bolt action? [Re: derbyacresbob]
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Originally Posted By: derbyacresbob

Don't buy a 1-14" twist barrel unless you plan on shooting 50 gr and lighter lead bullets.


My 1/14" Model 700 .22/250 shoots up to 55 grain bullets just fine. I rarely load that heavy a bullet in it but it groups them well. But yes, I agree that a 1/12 or even a 1/10 twist might be better.
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#3249454 - 08/01/20 06:41 PM Re: Which bolt action? [Re: seasley]
Terry Lightle Offline
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Registered: 01/13/19
Posts: 146
Loc: Sand Springs,Okla
I shoot 55 grain bullets in my 14 twist and have used them in my 14 twist Winchester since it was new,maybe I just got lucky but it is working for me.Maybe faster twist is better but I have never owned one.

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#3249457 - 08/01/20 08:19 PM Re: Which bolt action? [Re: seasley]
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If your thinking Kimber, throw a few more bucks in the pile and get a Cooper. Buy once cry once.
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