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#3249344 - 07/31/20 04:02 PM Newbie etiquette??
Jim Byers Offline
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Registered: 12/30/16
Posts: 498
Loc: Montana
What are your "rules of engagement" so to speak when taking newbies calling? Do you let coyotes get away hoping your guest will make the shot?

This past couple weeks I've been taking a coworker along in the evenings, it's been painful.. haha.. Multiple coyotes have came in and left unscathed.. Most without a shot being fired. Do you guys let them go? I don't want to be a dog hog, but......
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#3249346 - 07/31/20 04:28 PM Re: Newbie etiquette?? [Re: Jim Byers]
Mr. Poppadopalis Online
Die Hard Member III

Registered: 06/25/13
Posts: 3274
Loc: Metro Denver
Originally Posted By: Jim Byers
What are your "rules of engagement" so to speak when taking newbies calling? Do you let coyotes get away hoping your guest will make the shot?

This past couple weeks I've been taking a coworker along in the evenings, it's been painful.. haha.. Multiple coyotes have came in and left unscathed.. Most without a shot being fired. Do you guys let them go? I don't want to be a dog hog, but......



Lay down the law! I tell newbies like it is, I usually coach people on the 2 hour drive out.

Coyotes here are worth $$$$. I have an area I am responsible to watch and shoot, your partner should be on the same page!

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#3249349 - 07/31/20 05:37 PM Re: Newbie etiquette?? [Re: Mr. Poppadopalis]
hm1996 Offline
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Registered: 07/23/06
Posts: 15826
Loc: S. Texas
Originally Posted By: Mr. Poppadopalis
Originally Posted By: Jim Byers
What are your "rules of engagement" so to speak when taking newbies calling? Do you let coyotes get away hoping your guest will make the shot?

This past couple weeks I've been taking a coworker along in the evenings, it's been painful.. haha.. Multiple coyotes have came in and left unscathed.. Most without a shot being fired. Do you guys let them go? I don't want to be a dog hog, but......




Lay down the law! I tell newbies like it is, I usually coach people on the 2 hour drive out.

Coyotes here are worth $$$$. I have an area I am responsible to watch and shoot, your partner should be on the same page!


^^^+1 Pelts have no value here but am obligated to landowners to remove the coyotes. I sit close enough to a newbie to verbally communicate, tell them to take the shot as it is presented. I acquire the target, ask them it they are on target....if no shot or affirmative response pretty quick, I shoot. They (the newbies) learn pretty fast IME. cool

Regards,
hm
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#3249368 - 07/31/20 11:53 PM Re: Newbie etiquette?? [Re: Jim Byers]
Mr. Poppadopalis Online
Die Hard Member III

Registered: 06/25/13
Posts: 3274
Loc: Metro Denver
^^^^^^^^
Like HM says above- I also have a duty to kill coyotes on all ranches.......

Their are Coyote hunters and then their are Coyote Killers;-)

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#3249369 - 07/31/20 11:59 PM Re: Newbie etiquette?? [Re: Jim Byers]
SubpaR Offline
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Registered: 09/27/15
Posts: 246
Loc: Hays, KS
I'm a terrible coyote hunter so I never take anyone other than my 7 yr old with me. However, I've taken a friend and his son on a deer hunt which turned into a coyote hunt.

I waited as long as I could before taking the shot, and missed! I still hate that day.

The next year I took the kid to the same place and let a coyote live after he was in my scope, looking at me! 15 minutes later the little smart-[beeep] got his first buck. It was worth skipping the coyote.
BTW, I do like the kid. Somewhat.

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#3249374 - 08/01/20 02:45 AM Re: Newbie etiquette?? [Re: SubpaR]
tripod3 Offline
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Registered: 09/27/04
Posts: 8388
Loc: WA
Depends on the age of the newbie, beyond that fire at will!
I will admit letting a few go each year for photo purposes, I will get them later since they trust me now.
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#3249382 - 08/01/20 07:58 AM Re: Newbie etiquette?? [Re: Jim Byers]
AWS Offline
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Registered: 02/01/03
Posts: 5289
Loc: NM
Newbies go out on public land and I try to give them the shot. Only taking one myself if they can't, it's nice to have one in the bag to give a skinning lesson also.
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#3249389 - 08/01/20 09:05 AM Re: Newbie etiquette?? [Re: Jim Byers]
DAA Offline
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Registered: 04/23/01
Posts: 5253
Loc: Salt Lake City
Originally Posted By: Jim Byers
Do you let coyotes get away hoping your guest will make the shot?




Often.

'Ell... I let them get away hoping my hunting partner of several decades will make the shot. It's just a coyote. No big deal. I'm not beholden to anyone to kill anything. And wouldn't ever want to be.

- DAA

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#3249398 - 08/01/20 09:54 AM Re: Newbie etiquette?? [Re: Jim Byers]
Jim Byers Offline
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Registered: 12/30/16
Posts: 498
Loc: Montana
I appreciate both perspectives, and I find myself sitting on the proverbial fence. I'm not obligated to kill coyotes. I hunt public land primarily. I do it cause I enjoy the game. I prefer to educate as few as possible though, I educate plenty by myself!. Lol.
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#3249474 - 08/02/20 12:00 AM Re: Newbie etiquette?? [Re: DAA]
btech29 Offline
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Registered: 01/17/11
Posts: 1494
Loc: NW Arkansas
Originally Posted By: DAA
Originally Posted By: Jim Byers
Do you let coyotes get away hoping your guest will make the shot?




Often.

'Ell... I let them get away hoping my hunting partner of several decades will make the shot. It's just a coyote. No big deal. I'm not beholden to anyone to kill anything. And wouldn't ever want to be.

- DAA


Im with Dave, who gives a crap! What is worse is going with some greedy bastage that wants to shoot every coyote that comes in. Everyone has to learn, and its hard when you have a coyote hog along. Just have fun. Life is short, and there are plenty of coyotes.

If you are so hard pressed that you cant let a coyote get away, then hunt by yourself.
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#3249480 - 08/02/20 07:43 AM Re: Newbie etiquette?? [Re: Jim Byers]
why Offline
Die Hard Member

Registered: 08/29/14
Posts: 711
Loc: md eastern shore
By newbie, do you mean new to hunting or new to coyote hunting. If he is a hunter he should be able to catch on pretty quick. If new to hunting in general let him watch and learn, no gun needed, at least for a couple trips.

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#3249488 - 08/02/20 10:04 AM Re: Newbie etiquette?? [Re: Jim Byers]
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Die Hard Member III

Registered: 03/01/10
Posts: 2657
Loc: south central Illinois
If I take somebody and I want them to do the shooting I'll give them a limited amount of time and if I feel like they can't make it happen then their time is up and I will be shooting. When it's time to shoot it's time to shoot.


Edited by varminter .223 (08/02/20 10:10 AM)

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#3249537 - 08/02/20 10:06 PM Re: Newbie etiquette?? [Re: btech29]
Mr. Poppadopalis Online
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Registered: 06/25/13
Posts: 3274
Loc: Metro Denver
Originally Posted By: btech29
Originally Posted By: DAA
Originally Posted By: Jim Byers
Do you let coyotes get away hoping your guest will make the shot?




Often.

'Ell... I let them get away hoping my hunting partner of several decades will make the shot. It's just a coyote. No big deal. I'm not beholden to anyone to kill anything. And wouldn't ever want to be.

- DAA


Im with Dave, who gives a crap! What is worse is going with some greedy bastage that wants to shoot every coyote that comes in. Everyone has to learn, and its hard when you have a coyote hog along. Just have fun. Life is short, and there are plenty of coyotes.

If you are so hard pressed that you cant let a coyote get away, then hunt by yourself.


Angry much Dog Hog???


Hahahahaaaaaaa

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#3249585 - 08/03/20 02:23 PM Re: Newbie etiquette?? [Re: Jim Byers]
OKRattler Offline
Die Hard Member III

Registered: 02/17/08
Posts: 3416
Loc: Ok Panhandle
I normally stick to huntin with people that know how it's supposed to work. But the few times I have hunted with someone new to it I don't feel like they learned anything by seeing a coyote run off. In my experience it causes people to get more discouraged than anything. Seeing results and how things are supposed to happen is a lot more productive in many ways.

But no I don't let coyotes get away on purpose. If they're gonna shoot they better get on it.


Edited by OKRattler (08/03/20 02:24 PM)
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#3249602 - 08/03/20 08:18 PM Re: Newbie etiquette?? [Re: Mr. Poppadopalis]
btech29 Offline
Die Hard Member II

Registered: 01/17/11
Posts: 1494
Loc: NW Arkansas
Originally Posted By: Mr. Poppadopalis
Originally Posted By: btech29
Originally Posted By: DAA
Originally Posted By: Jim Byers
Do you let coyotes get away hoping your guest will make the shot?




Often.

'Ell... I let them get away hoping my hunting partner of several decades will make the shot. It's just a coyote. No big deal. I'm not beholden to anyone to kill anything. And wouldn't ever want to be.

- DAA


Im with Dave, who gives a crap! What is worse is going with some greedy bastage that wants to shoot every coyote that comes in. Everyone has to learn, and its hard when you have a coyote hog along. Just have fun. Life is short, and there are plenty of coyotes.

If you are so hard pressed that you cant let a coyote get away, then hunt by yourself.


Angry much Dog Hog???


Hahahahaaaaaaa


Lol, not angry at all. I just dont get all wound up over a dang coyote. If you hunt with me you will always do the lions share of the shooting. I have hunted with a few deak heads over the years. I will never treat someone like that. I can kill as good as anyone reading this thread. I also guide. Yes, its is painful sometimes, but I will never treat someone badly over missing a coyote, or letting one get away. I just dont care that much about a silly coyote. Everyone has to learn. If you want to show "tough love" then more power to ya. I choose to treat people with respect. If it gets too bad I may not invite you again, but I will not belittle a man over an animal.

I will add: I doubt anyone posting on this thread are as hard core a "killer for hire" as they let on. I doubt anyone is doing this professionally.
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