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#3238667 - 03/19/20 12:09 AM When budget rifles aren't budget rifles anymore
pyscodog Online
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Savage Axis II Overwatch. MSRP is $529. Nice looking rifle but what happened to the $279 cheap Axis? Seems like the "Budget Rifles" aren't exactly budget rifles anymore.
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#3238675 - 03/19/20 01:21 AM Re: When budget rifles aren't budget rifles anymore [Re: pyscodog]
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Meh. I'm just glad that there is nothing out there that makes me want to spend my money on any longer. I guess that finally after almost half a century I am finally content with what I have now.

Took me long enough.
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#3238695 - 03/19/20 09:03 AM Re: When budget rifles aren't budget rifles anymore [Re: pyscodog]
George Foster Offline
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I am in the same boat as Rustydust, I bought my last rifle in 2009 and my last shotgun in 2005. I highly doubt now that I will buy anymore guns.

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#3238707 - 03/19/20 10:12 AM Re: When budget rifles aren't budget rifles anymore [Re: pyscodog]
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When I see and MSRP for firearms, I usually take 1/3 off of that, and I'm ususally pretty close to the actual lower retail prices out there for that weapon, sans any specials, sales, etc. That formula would put this thing out on the street for about $350, plus tax, instant ck, etc. Not bad for a basic, proven system with a PVD coating, and what appears to be LOP and cheekriser adjustments, etc. Let it get out there for a couple years and they'll be having sale em on for $250. There's always a supply vs wants curve.

It is interesting on how many we tend to own now. If the companies didnt keep coming up with "new" stuff and calibers, and formats and such, they'd be bankrupt. Unfortunately, mos tweapons dont wear out in a few lifetimes, so we may be getting in a serious oversupply situation, value-wise. Grandparents had 2 to a few, Dad several now, me......I may make even some here blush...LOL. As an old fella told me an old fella told him, we're prob only good for a 1000 rounds a piece or so each when the world goes to h**l. JMHO
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#3238711 - 03/19/20 10:41 AM Re: When budget rifles aren't budget rifles anymore [Re: Mike B]
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#3238714 - 03/19/20 10:51 AM Re: When budget rifles aren't budget rifles anymore [Re: pyscodog]
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I just looked at it om a Savage ad. I'm sure street price is lower.

Russ- I always say I have enough but then I see something that catchs my eye and...... well you know. LOL


Edited by pyscodog (03/19/20 10:52 AM)
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#3238720 - 03/19/20 11:21 AM Re: When budget rifles aren't budget rifles anymore [Re: Rustydust]
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Originally Posted By: Rustydust
Meh. I'm just glad that there is nothing out there that makes me want to spend my money on any longer. I guess that finally after almost half a century I am finally content with what I have now.

Took me long enough.


those same thoughts have been going through my mind.

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#3238724 - 03/19/20 11:56 AM Re: When budget rifles aren't budget rifles anymore [Re: SlickerThanSnot]
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Originally Posted By: SlickerThanSnot
Originally Posted By: Rustydust
Meh. I'm just glad that there is nothing out there that makes me want to spend my money on any longer. I guess that finally after almost half a century I am finally content with what I have now.

Took me long enough.


those same thoughts have been going through my mind.


Wish I could do that. I say it all the time but I'm just kidding myself/
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#3238729 - 03/19/20 12:37 PM Re: When budget rifles aren't budget rifles anymore [Re: pyscodog]
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I don’t need anything , but... something follows me home a couple times a year.
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#3238740 - 03/19/20 01:46 PM Re: When budget rifles aren't budget rifles anymore [Re: pyscodog]
Tim Neitzke Offline
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I took a look , Savage out did themselves in the ugly department this time. laugh

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#3238741 - 03/19/20 01:55 PM Re: When budget rifles aren't budget rifles anymore [Re: Yellowhammer]
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Not sure these are the same rifles as the Overwatch series.
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#3238751 - 03/19/20 02:32 PM Re: When budget rifles aren't budget rifles anymore [Re: pyscodog]
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Just did a quick search and you can get the Axis II Overwatch for $391 I'm not a Savage guy so I don't know if that's good or bad but it seems fairly inexpensive.

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#3238756 - 03/19/20 03:21 PM Re: When budget rifles aren't budget rifles anymore [Re: pyscodog]
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Yaa, that's not to bad I guess. MSRP is always higher than actual street price.
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#3238765 - 03/19/20 04:26 PM Re: When budget rifles aren't budget rifles anymore [Re: pyscodog]
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This is an American psychological game.
We all want more for less, hence China dependence.
As soon as the next cheap rifle comes out we [beeep] about the stock, the trigger, the magazine, all the plastic.
So we applaud the manufacturer for listening to us and remedying it.
When the price goes up everyone looks for the next new cheap one.
In my time here I have seen many of these cycles completed.
Remember the Stevens 200.
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#3238772 - 03/19/20 05:21 PM Re: When budget rifles aren't budget rifles anymore [Re: pyscodog]
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You pretty much nailed it.
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