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#3233577 - 02/13/20 05:48 PM Hypocrisy
6724 Offline
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Registered: 01/19/11
Posts: 2870
Loc: colorado
I live in ski country, its also liberal land. You can't go one day without something, or many days, everything being the result of climate change or global warming, or whatever they are going to call it next. The idiots get a dry year for snow like a couple years ago and they preach that the end is near, that it will never snow like it did in the past. Except that about 40 years ago it was so dry that Independence Pass stayed open all winter, they seem to forget about those dry or warm years that happen every now and then.
The Aspen Skiing Company is quite vocal about climate change and what a catastrophe it will become. But, they remove live healthy trees every year, they dig up the earth to collect water and distribute it around the mountain for snow making, and they expand skier terrain whenever possible. Expanding skier terrain is another way to say funny shaped clear cut. They burn all of their slash in big piles, piles that they use dozens of gallons of diesel to light. They proclaim their use of "green" energy or electricity from "renewable sources", and they use a bunch of power! They run diesel powered snowcats, dozens of them, every night to groom the snow. They transport food and supplies up the mountain with other cargo cats. They heat the buildings on the mountain with propane and or electricity, and it's cold here in the mountains.
Their customers come here largely by commercial airline, which lately, is one of the whacko environmentalist's most hated producers of CO2. Some come by car, driving 3 to 4 hours or more from Denver, usually in a Yukon or something like it. Then they stay at some super fancy hotel with exotic stone floors, counter tops and showers, all lit up with super expensive electric lighting that stays on all night. These hotels are always nice and warm, heated by natural gas, just like their outdoor hot tubs and pools. They take long hot showers after their hard day on the slopes, water heated by natural gas. Wasting water that could have flowed down the river to Lake Powell, which they never fail to remind us is quite low.
They all carry around their latest Iphone or equivalent, made overseas and shipped across the ocean on boats powered by diesel. Then trucked to every city in the country on trucks that also burn diesel. Their phones use exotic minerals in their batteries and circuits, minerals that have to be mined and refined somewhere.
Their ski gear cannot possibly be environmentally friendly to produce, being largely made of plastics, and equally unfriendly to the environment when it is disposed of after 2 seasons of part time use.
The ones that live here profess environmentalism even more, proclaiming what great stewards of the environment they are, because they appreciate the great outdoors. They drive Subarus and other SUV's, they put a coffin on the roof diminishing the already poor fuel mileage, and then they drive far in excess of the speed limit. Apparently no one told them that drag increases exponentially with velocity! They too heat their houses with natural gas, which is extracted from the ground within short distance of Aspen. But, they protest the drilling, they protest the pipelines that bring it to them. They pass laws to make it harder for companies to provide the natural gas that they use to heat their homes, water, and offices, all of which have thermostats set higher than the AC is set in the summer time.

They ride their fat tire bikes all over the BLM and forest service land, often times on illegally created trails. Then they stare stupidly when you tell them that the elk herd is down by 60%, likely due to human encroachment. They let their dogs run loose on all hiking and biking trails, leaving excrement everywhere and further harassing wildlife. The first half mile of every popular trail smells like a giant pile of dog doo. They come to meetings discussing wildlife management and profess that they love wildlife but don't understand why they can't have their precious ski area expansion and mountain bike trails through elk calving areas. They then go out and violate the closures.
They are against development and sprawl, but continuously want to build more slums, sorry, I mean employee housing. They don't want anyone tearing up ground for a gravel pit, or a road, or mineral extraction, but they will spend $3.4 million to tear up a river bed and change it to create a "whitewater park", only to have to try to fix it every year after their man mad feature nearly drowns some family in a raft.

Perhaps they should modify their lives instead of telling me to modify mine??

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#3233624 - 02/13/20 10:21 PM Re: Hypocrisy [Re: 6724]
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#3233677 - 02/14/20 11:19 AM Re: Hypocrisy [Re: 6724]
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Registered: 08/31/12
Posts: 1355
Loc: UTAH
6724, that is exactly what is going on in Park City here in Utah, I won't even bother going near there anymore. And now it's ruining the small towns near it also.
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#3233684 - 02/14/20 11:49 AM Re: Hypocrisy [Re: 6724]
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Registered: 12/15/15
Posts: 951
Loc: ID - Idaho
Well said!

One of the silliest things I read was some climate change conference that was attended by the wealthy elite - including members of the British Royal family - in Europe. And how did they all get there?! On their private jets no less. As you've illustrated, I find these folks to be the worst about practicing what they preach, but they are quite adept at telling everyone else how to live their life or supporting lawmakers who will support legislation that does.

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#3233725 - 02/14/20 05:51 PM Re: Hypocrisy [Re: Matlock]
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Registered: 02/01/16
Posts: 632
Loc: Pocono Mts.Pa.
The old adage: "do as I say, not as I do"!
That also seems to hold true for most of those who come up with how others should live their lives.

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#3233741 - 02/14/20 08:10 PM Re: Hypocrisy [Re: 6724]
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Registered: 01/21/11
Posts: 212
Loc: PA
Liberals are pathetic hypocrites! Among many other things!

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#3234130 - 02/16/20 09:08 PM Re: Hypocrisy [Re: 6724]
DesertRam Offline
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Loc: Las Cruces, NM USA
What we have here is commonly referred to as liberal privilege. It's okay for them, but not us proletariat.
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#3234137 - 02/16/20 09:35 PM Re: Hypocrisy [Re: DesertRam]
22 Chuck Offline
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Registered: 08/11/17
Posts: 94
Loc: Montmorency Co, MI
To Hipocrisy-post #1

How many of those diesels are left idling for long periods at malls, schools, churches-all parking lots?? Someone sometime did a great sales job and said it is better to leave em idle-I guess.

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#3234310 - 02/17/20 08:02 PM Re: Hypocrisy [Re: 22 Chuck]
6724 Offline
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Registered: 01/19/11
Posts: 2870
Loc: colorado
Originally Posted By: 22 Chuck
To Hipocrisy-post #1

How many of those diesels are left idling for long periods at malls, schools, churches-all parking lots?? Someone sometime did a great sales job and said it is better to leave em idle-I guess.


It is illegal to idle more than 2 minutes in the town of Basalt, so I guess you better have your 500 watt block heater plugged in! I am sure some of the other towns have laws like that too, but Basalt put up signs everywhere.

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#3234585 - 02/19/20 09:18 AM Re: Hypocrisy [Re: 6724]
Rock Knocker Offline
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Registered: 12/29/11
Posts: 3166
Loc: Buffalo, MN
There's hypocracy abound in this country from all sides and angles.

Liberals yes, it's easy to point out their smog filled cities and the children in them drinking bottled water and buying plane tickets to escape their [beeep] hole all the while smashing the screens of their brand new gadgets screaming about global warming. Their new damend for avocados on their toast feuling deforestation at record levels just like the ski hills first talked about here.

Conservatives are ham strung the same way... that's why these petulant children are able to put up a fight. We are helping them.

Conservatives shopping at Walmart, scheduling their weeks around(insanely liberal) sporting events, donating to Hollywood by going to the movies, buying beer like it's a necessary nutrient, everyone driving their kids to school like little choufferes, paying for cable TV, going in dept for trucks and offroad toys they dont need when they should be hiking off a few pound instead, $40,000 ice houses with wifi and satellite to park on the ice for 30 days because you cant handle the cold, and of course a $2000 electric generator is needed so they can plug their smart phone in, conservatives that are terribly out of shape but still going to McDonalds for meal a day then relying on doctors and pharmaceutical companies to keep them living for more McDonalds, gallons of soda pop a week etc. etc...

How much interest do conservatives pay out to liberal banks each year?

At 34 I'm now realizing I graduated high school but the mentality of the country is high school, it's all about image, everyone wants idilogical change but wont give anything to get it, BUT they give everything they have or go in dept to get some new toy they dont NEED. It blows my mind how much GROWN ADAULTS will act like needy little bastards to bolster their image, around here, you clearly dont have testicles if you dont have a one ton truck. You could be afraid of the woods at night, fear dogs or a 400lb pony a little girl rides but at least this $60,000 truck proves manliness. I have trouble not cutting idling diesel tires, it looks like you're a needy [beeep] with a truck that cant even survive half the Minnesota climate.

Our cushy money drunk society has fostered hypocritical fruit cups at every turn, most all of them frightened of one harmless thing or another.

Now more than ever can liars, cowards and thieves hide behind their credit score and toys and actually feel good about themselves AND be viewed positively by others. Just one way that capitalism has become hypocritical to conservative values.

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#3234598 - 02/19/20 11:59 AM Re: Hypocrisy [Re: Rock Knocker]
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Registered: 01/31/14
Posts: 5140
Loc: stuck in a fence
Originally Posted By: Rock Knocker
There's hypocracy abound in this country from all sides and angles.

Liberals yes, it's easy to point out their smog filled cities and the children in them drinking bottled water and buying plane tickets to escape their [beeep] hole all the while smashing the screens of their brand new gadgets screaming about global warming. Their new damend for avocados on their toast feuling deforestation at record levels just like the ski hills first talked about here.

Conservatives are ham strung the same way... that's why these petulant children are able to put up a fight. We are helping them.

Conservatives shopping at Walmart, scheduling their weeks around(insanely liberal) sporting events, donating to Hollywood by going to the movies, buying beer like it's a necessary nutrient, everyone driving their kids to school like little choufferes, paying for cable TV, going in dept for trucks and offroad toys they dont need when they should be hiking off a few pound instead, $40,000 ice houses with wifi and satellite to park on the ice for 30 days because you cant handle the cold, and of course a $2000 electric generator is needed so they can plug their smart phone in etc. etc...

How much interest do conservatives pay out to liberal banks each year?

At 34 I'm now realizing I graduated high school but the mentality of the country is high school, it's all about image, everyone wants idilogical change but wont give anything to get it, BUT they give everything they have or go in dept to get some new toy they dont NEED. It blows my mind how much GROWN ADAULTS will act like needy little bastards to bolster their image, around here, you clearly dont have testicles if you dont have a one ton truck. You could be afraid of the woods at night, fear dogs or a 400lb pony a little girl rides but at least this $60,000 truck proves manliness. I have trouble not cutting idling diesel tires, it looks like you're a needy [beeep] with a truck that cant even survive half the Minnesota climate.

Our cushy money drunk society has fostered hypocritical fruit cups at every turn, most all of them frightened of one harmless thing or another.

Now more than ever can liars, cowards and thieves hide behind their credit score and toys and actually feel good about themselves AND be viewed positively by others. Just one way that capitalism has become hypocritical to conservative values.


geeze, after reading all that i feel bad that we own 3 vehicles, a motor cycle, a camping trailer, a house, more guns than i know what to do with and a dog.

i worked hard all my life for what we have. now retired and have a better than average pension coming in every month. my wife worked hard most of her life also. we have a superb credit rating and we also raised 3 pretty dam good kids.

yeah, i really feel bad. not bad enough to wish we had done anything different though.

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#3234606 - 02/19/20 12:38 PM Re: Hypocrisy [Re: 6724]
Rock Knocker Offline
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Registered: 12/29/11
Posts: 3166
Loc: Buffalo, MN
Well, that's exactly my point. Who would change when they are getting the material stuff they want, I think that's what started this thread. The ski hill wants global warming to stop but not bad enough to stop growing themselves.

And I'm not trying preach like I'm perfect, it's just a symptom of the times. On a daily basis almost everyone gives up ideological values for some quick material value, ether through negligence or ignorance, and the material value carries more weight now.

If someone has a huge mansion they worked for, payed for and spent their money in the right spots that's great, good for them. If someone has a huge mansion they borrowed money from a bank that donates to the obama campaign and payed the Clinton construction company to build because they quoted lowest then they cant call themselves conservatives, they're hypocrites and this happens non stop all day.

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#3234668 - 02/19/20 09:38 PM Re: Hypocrisy [Re: 6724]
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Registered: 11/26/10
Posts: 7335
Loc: East Tn
What if you build a modest board and batten house but borrow from the same bank because they are the ones who will loan the money and hire the clinton construction co because they are the cheapest. Are you still a hypocrite?
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#3234696 - 02/20/20 06:11 AM Re: Hypocrisy [Re: 6724]
Rock Knocker Offline
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Registered: 12/29/11
Posts: 3166
Loc: Buffalo, MN
It can be looked at however any individual wants to look at it.

Around here it's real easy to spend a lifetime working for very left leaning companies. If someone spends a life working for, paying interest to and hiring groups that go against their thoughts... is a few individual votes a decade, at best, enough for their causes to gain from them?

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#3234699 - 02/20/20 06:27 AM Re: Hypocrisy [Re: 6724]
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Posts: 7335
Loc: East Tn
I just don't have the answer.

I do know that spending a life going against the wind all the time will wear a man plumb out.
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