Just to update this. We sold all 3 of the scopes and started running a 6x nemesis. It was fine but the FOV was narrow and the scope was heavy and bulky. I shot a few coyotes with it at 150-250 yards. We are now running an XP50 Thermion and and xq50 trail. Spotting with an xp50 helion and a xq23v. We honestly feel the IR torch was alerting coyotes. They are hunted hard around here. After a few years we have gotten more practice with IDing through thermal. Much less frustration than with the lower end scopes!