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#3232519 - 02/08/20 07:50 PM Thermal Scope clip ons vs actual thermal
Bling Offline
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Is there much comparison between them or does the clip on even hold a chance to the actual thermal scope?

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#3232552 - 02/08/20 10:22 PM Re: Thermal Scope clip ons vs actual thermal [Re: Bling]
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From what I've researched and read on other forums from people who know a lot more about thermal then I care to, say the "decent" clip-on thermals start at $10,000 and go up form there.

Its something about the collimating eyepeice. This is from Trijicon:

Collimates and de-magnifies the display end of the optic to optimize for use with a magnified day optic


Apparently the lower cost Clip-Ons dont do it very well.

The other issue is when you turn up the power on a day scope. On the lower cost clip ons the screen becomes very grainy.
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#3232569 - 02/08/20 11:33 PM Re: Thermal Scope clip ons vs actual thermal [Re: capitol]
Bling Offline
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Answers my questions then. thanks very much

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#3232615 - 02/09/20 08:40 AM Re: Thermal Scope clip ons vs actual thermal [Re: Bling]
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Thermal Clip-Ons always cost more than dedicated thermal scopes due to proper collimation.

However, if yo have twenty rifles with day optics, it takes five seconds to turn any of them into night hunters.



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#3232799 - 02/09/20 06:49 PM Re: Thermal Scope clip ons vs actual thermal [Re: SkyPup]
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Registered: 06/22/19
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Thermal clip-on is very versatile and comfortable because you can put it on and off easily on any riflescope. But the setting seems unmanageable and exposed to possible impacts with the vegetation if it is used in stray hunting. Also I don't think it can give a detailed image like the one you see with a thermal riflescope. Kirsch on 08/11/19 posted a video showing that with a compact thermal riflescope (FLIR PTS536) you can go hunting well both day and night.
http://www.predatormastersforums.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3210009h

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#3232861 - 02/09/20 10:40 PM Re: Thermal Scope clip ons vs actual thermal [Re: Bling]
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Clip-Ons give detailed images and stray vegetation is not a problem, you can use them day or night, don’t know where you getting contradicting info?
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#3232862 - 02/09/20 10:53 PM Re: Thermal Scope clip ons vs actual thermal [Re: Bling]
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375 yards at 18X no pixelation .308



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#3232875 - 02/09/20 11:16 PM Re: Thermal Scope clip ons vs actual thermal [Re: SkyPup]
Bling Offline
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Originally Posted By: SkyPup
375 yards at 18X no pixelation .308





Which is that clip on? Will it fit a normal zeiss or swaro 40mm?

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#3232916 - 02/10/20 07:45 AM Re: Thermal Scope clip ons vs actual thermal [Re: Bling]
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That is an ELCAN 1-6X day optic with a FLIR T-75, it will work with any scope up to 18X.


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#3232918 - 02/10/20 07:48 AM Re: Thermal Scope clip ons vs actual thermal [Re: Bling]
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T-75 is a Long Range Thermal Clip-On.



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#3232922 - 02/10/20 08:18 AM Re: Thermal Scope clip ons vs actual thermal [Re: Bling]
Bling Offline
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Thanks I'll look it up

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#3233034 - 02/10/20 05:04 PM Re: Thermal Scope clip ons vs actual thermal [Re: Bling]
Ernest49 Offline
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SkyPup you are absolutely right. Mine, however, is not contradictory information, but only contradictory impressions. Because I believe that a performing thermal clip-on needs a high-level riflescope to be able to see well day and night. Surely with my cheap and modest ($ 500) Chinese Konus riflescope 3-12x56 it would look bad ....


Edited by Ernest49 (02/10/20 05:12 PM)

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#3233037 - 02/10/20 05:30 PM Re: Thermal Scope clip ons vs actual thermal [Re: Bling]
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SkyPup is correct, but in fairness to Ernest49 and others comparing a high-end mil-spec clip on thermal (and scope) to a $3K stand alone thermal isn't exactly an apples-apples comparison. Not many standard night hunters are going to have a T-75 in their arsenal. Kudos to those who do.
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#3233104 - 02/10/20 09:52 PM Re: Thermal Scope clip ons vs actual thermal [Re: Bling]
SkyPup Offline
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An accurate 500 yard plus shooting thermal scope of any kind is not going to be cheap.
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#3233106 - 02/10/20 10:02 PM Re: Thermal Scope clip ons vs actual thermal [Re: Bling]
Bling Offline
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Good lord 16k. That's all id do is look

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