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#3229307 - 01/20/20 10:26 PM Is the 204 becoming obsolete?
shelton573 Offline
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Registered: 02/15/12
Posts: 1272
Loc: SE Missouri
It seems like a lot of folks talk about shooting them but rifles seem to be getting scarce. I have a savage 12 that I love shooting. My buddy wanted to buy a Howa for our SD trip and they discontinued the 204 unless I’m wrong. Looking on buds guns they only have 2 options and they are both pistols. Is it phasing out? There are still rifles out there for sale but it seems like availability has been cut in half.
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#3229313 - 01/20/20 11:25 PM Re: Is the 204 becoming obsolete? [Re: shelton573]
204 AR Offline
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Registered: 01/31/10
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It does seem like the popularity has died off a little. There's a lot of new stuff out there to capture people's interest.
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#3229314 - 01/20/20 11:32 PM Re: Is the 204 becoming obsolete? [Re: 204 AR]
B23 Offline
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Registered: 12/07/11
Posts: 2124
Loc: Pacific NW
Do you think it's so much that the other or new cartridges are competing for their piece of market share or do the masses just want cheap, and the 223 does that better than the others with it's cheaper bulk ammo that's available for it???

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#3229323 - 01/21/20 02:04 AM Re: Is the 204 becoming obsolete? [Re: 204 AR]
tripod3 Offline
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Registered: 09/27/04
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Loc: WA
Originally Posted By: 204 AR
It does seem like the popularity has died off a little. There's a lot of new stuff out there to capture people's interest.


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#3229324 - 01/21/20 04:06 AM Re: Is the 204 becoming obsolete? [Re: shelton573]
MPFD Offline
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Registered: 01/31/07
Posts: 5141
Loc: Kansas
Is anybody buying anything other than 6.5 Creedmoor?
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#3229329 - 01/21/20 06:12 AM Re: Is the 204 becoming obsolete? [Re: shelton573]
Terry Lightle Offline
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Registered: 01/13/19
Posts: 91
Loc: Sand Springs,Okla
Do not have any insight on the 204 but I think the 6.5 Creed has taken over in my neck of the woods.Think everybody around here but me has 1

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#3229337 - 01/21/20 07:51 AM Re: Is the 204 becoming obsolete? [Re: shelton573]
K22 Offline
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Registered: 10/19/03
Posts: 2224
Loc: Western NC
I certainly hope not, it's a great Predator and Varmint caliber. I don't like to admit it but I use mine more than my 17 Rem. lately.
The 204 was one of the easiest calibers to work an accurate load up for I have used.

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#3229343 - 01/21/20 08:21 AM Re: Is the 204 becoming obsolete? [Re: shelton573]
ackleyman Offline
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Registered: 01/08/03
Posts: 8511
Loc: Hickville
12 twists do not help the popularity, but I doubt if they will die off. Good sign to horde up some brass if you like the caliber.

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#3229357 - 01/21/20 09:33 AM Re: Is the 204 becoming obsolete? [Re: K22]
Rustydust Offline
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Registered: 10/21/07
Posts: 6018
Loc: Southwest Idaho
Originally Posted By: K22
I certainly hope not, it's a great Predator and Varmint caliber. I don't like to admit it but I use mine more than my 17 Rem. lately.


Me too. It's been many years now since I took my .204 to the prairie dog fields for the first time. That was eye opening. My .220 Swift and my .22/250 hardly had their barrels get warm that trip. That .20 caliber did all that the bigger .224 rounds did and did it with almost zero kick (love to watch the hits!) and less blast. When the factory (Savage) barrel was toast I screwed on a new Criterion barrel with a 1/11" twist and had it threaded for my suppressor. Man! Hardly another gun came out of my safe for a long time after that.

Since I bought my .17 Hornet a few years back that has become my darling for our local ground squirrels but for an "outchonder" gun the .204 Ruger is tough to beat. At least out to 500 yards or so.
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#3229366 - 01/21/20 10:32 AM Re: Is the 204 becoming obsolete? [Re: shelton573]
WyoBull Offline
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Registered: 08/25/11
Posts: 307
Loc: Wyoming
Seems everyone is always chasing the newest, latest and greatest caliber. I have never owned a 204 Ruger as I guess I am old school in staying with my 220 Swift, 222 Rem., and 17 Rem..

I remember it was not that long ago when the 204 was all the rage and all anybody in the varmint world was talking about. CZ 527 Varmint is still chambered in the 204 and probably a couple of other models of CZ as well. That is what I would look at if I were to get one today.
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#3229368 - 01/21/20 10:44 AM Re: Is the 204 becoming obsolete? [Re: shelton573]
pyscodog Offline
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Registered: 12/04/06
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Loc: okla
Its still a great round but around here you can't hardly give them away. Seems the Creed craze is all anyone cares about.
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#3229385 - 01/21/20 11:48 AM Re: Is the 204 becoming obsolete? [Re: shelton573]
jsh Offline
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Registered: 11/22/03
Posts: 207
Loc: Kansas U.S. of A
It took me a while to play with the 204. I won’t say it will replace anything I already had, but I have found it to be easy to work with. I did throw mine into a Choate stock, then filled that up with #9 shot, rig weighs around 28 lbs, ;-) you can see your hits.

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#3229406 - 01/21/20 01:47 PM Re: Is the 204 becoming obsolete? [Re: shelton573]
WeaselCircus Offline
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Registered: 01/27/11
Posts: 262
Loc: Idaho
I've been wondering the same thing about the 204 and then lately the 17 Hornet too. Love my Hornets (and my 204), but I'm seeing things like Hornady discontinuing the 25 gr HP bullet option and way less sellers of Hornet ammo. Sure hope both are here to stay for the long term.

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#3229437 - 01/21/20 06:07 PM Re: Is the 204 becoming obsolete? [Re: shelton573]
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Registered: 12/30/04
Posts: 2454
Loc: NW, Wi
I can't speak to cartridge trends, but my 204 Ruger isn't going anywhere. I had a Savage 16, in 204 Ruger, and one year, not going to WY to shoot speed goats and p-dogs, I converted the Savage 16, into a 260 Remington. Very happy with that rifle, so not likely it will ever go back to a 204 Ruger. But I missed the speedy 20 cal, so I built an AR-15 with a 1:10 twist 22" barrel. I really like the fast follow-ups the AR-15 gives, and I can't say I gave up much in accuracy. I will always have a 204 Ruger, of some kind. I have a pile of brass, as a result of the last shortage, and then a healthy supply. So I guess I need to put in a big hoard of 39 gr. Sierras. rolleyes

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#3229456 - 01/21/20 09:15 PM Re: Is the 204 becoming obsolete? [Re: shelton573]
lowholer1 Offline
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Registered: 11/21/07
Posts: 925
Loc: washington
I like to take 1 of my several 204 rugers with me to the range when I am doing load work up on a deferent caliber rifle as all my 204 shoot well and it helps me take myself out of the equation. I find the 204 is the easiest caliber that I have ever loaded for.My 1 in 12 twist shoots 32gr sierra and my 1 in 10 shoots 40gr under 1 in consistently.
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